Name that National Park!!  Oooops, the answer is on the picture.  Zion National Park.  Zion is stately, white/gray, and dignified, unlike Bryce Canyon that is pink and full of hoodoos.

Zion is right outside the town of Springdale, Utah which is just delightful and has many neat little places to stay.  finding a good place to eat is a little more challenging. My favorite spot is Majestic View Lodge.  Zion is not off the radar for Christmas time because of its desert location.  Utah has to be the most beautiful of all the states, unless you have an affinity for green.

104 Thoughts to “Open Thread………………………………………….Friday, May 25”

  1. Pat Herve

    Is Mitt Romney a closet Birther – he is doing a fund raiser with none other than the biggest Birther of them all – Donald Trump. You would think Mitt would distance himself from the likes of Trump.

    1. Several news satations today were very critical of Trump’s big mouth today. I couldn’t figure out what he had done. Sounded like business as usual.

  2. SlowpokeRodriguez

    Pat Herve :
    Is Mitt Romney a closet Birther – he is doing a fund raiser with none other than the biggest Birther of them all – Donald Trump. You would think Mitt would distance himself from the likes of Trump.

    I think it was book jacket that said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. What more do you need?

  3. SlowpokeRodriguez

    @marinm
    Did you see the other story about the guy who, confronted by the cops, slashed his gut open and threw his intestines and skin at the cops?

  4. Pat Herve

    slow – sorry to hear that a book jacket carries more weight for you than the Hawaii State Officials. Have you seen Romney’s Birth Cert – his dad was born in Mexico – and he ran for President too!

  5. SlowpokeRodriguez

    Moon-howler :
    Several news satations today were very critical of Trump’s big mouth today. I couldn’t figure out what he had done. Sounded like business as usual.

    The left think they have a potential club to beat Romney with since he’d be seen in public with Trump. I wish the left good luck with that one.

    1. would YOU want to be seen with Trump? Talk about a bad hair day.

      I didn’t say what stations, did I?

  6. @Pat Herve
    We’ve covered this ad nauseum. Moon doesn’t want to hear that Obama’s the one that claimed both places.

    He was born in Hawaii. Everything else……who knows? As Tom Brokaw said….”We don’t know ANYTHING about this man.”

    1. Thank you. You are correct. I don’t want to hear it because he really hasn’t made that claim. He has said he was born in Hawaii. Period. Any other claims of HIM saying otherwise are a lie.

  7. I have a question for any lawyers.

    Does having dual citizenship prevent one from being a natural born citizen? Inquiring minds want to know. Morris?

  8. Not a lawyer but I don’t see how it could be. My husband can become an Irish citizen because his grandmother was born there. He was born in the USA of 2 American citizen parents. He could be president. Maybe he would have to renounce the Irish first, come to think of it.

    Morris…chime in please.

  9. Pat Herve

    I am not a lawyer. Dual Citizenship does not prevent one from being a Natural Born Citizen – either you are natural born or you are not (now, define natural born……)

    Having Dual Citizenship may have implications on your allegiance to the US – ie, some nations that allow Dual Citizenship require one’s allegiance to that country, so their allegiance to the US can be questioned. There are many people who have held public office – elected and appointed who are dual Citizens – Arnold Schwarzenegger, Paul Wolfowiz. The US does not force one to give up Citizenship of their home country.

    I can find no instance where a sitting Congressman, other than Michele Bachman has applied for dual Citizenship while in office.

  10. BSinVA

    Test tube babies cannot become President if they are progressives because that are not “natural born”. I have spoken and I once thought about becoming a lawyer, but I came to my senses.

  11. SlowpokeRodriguez

    I always take the opportunity to hand “the other side” ammo. One example is that Gov. McDonnell shouldn’t be Governor of VA after his statements on drones. Here’s another one. The Illinois House is debating a Public Pension reform bill, and a Republican representative totally lost his shiznit at the podium the other day. Find that video, and you’ve got a good “look at this bonkers Republican” story.

    1. I take all links and gifts…however…I treat them like Greeks wearing tennis shoes also. I check the horse’s underpinnings. :mrgreen:

      What did McDonnell say about drones? I do hope he likes drones as much as I do.

  12. Emma

    For those who may have enjoyed the HawkCam video I posted a few weeks ago, we have liftoff!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgcieTs3MPs

  13. Steve Randolph

    Bears are roaring back M-H.

    Face(book) it.

  14. @Pat Herve
    Actually, I thought it was understood. The only office that requires nat’l born citizenship are President and Vice President.

    So, yes….other offices can be held if one is born with dual citizenship. But I agree that if you hold office, you should renounce any other “allegiances.”

  15. Pat Herve

    Cargosquid :
    @Pat Herve
    Actually, I thought it was understood.

    cargo – what was understood? thx

  16. Steve Randolph

    http://historicmanassas.mymediaroom.com/wire/events/viewevent.aspx?id=11942

    Railway Festival in Old Town Manassas this weekend!
    All aboard for fun!

    (Note, as always, tickets for the popular excursion train trips to Clifton often
    sell out early so you may want to buy yours from HMI at the
    train station in Old Town before Sat.)

  17. @Pat Herve
    Since I was talking about “natural born” that I was talking about only the Presidency and VP.

    I was wondering what the modern law is if a person is born as a dual citizen, are they eligible for those offices?

  18. Pat Herve

    James Buchanan (British) and Chester Arthur (Irish) could have both claimed dual Citizenship by birth rights. I do not know if either chose to exercise the claim on Citizenship. As far as I know, there has not been a change to the Constitution or Law to indicate that a dual Citizen is not eligible.

  19. Morris Davis

    NYC Repub billionaire mayor, Michael Bloomberg, is not in favor of tighter regulations on big banks (you may recall he said JP Morgan’s recent $2b loss was just a little hiccup), but he is in favor of tighter regulations on Big Gulps. He wants to ban large sugary drinks from the city. So, regulations on financial houses and firearms are bad; regulations on fountain drinks are good? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/nyregion/bloomberg-plans-a-ban-on-large-sugared-drinks.html

  20. @Morris Davis
    Bloomberg also wants to ban guns.

  21. SlowpokeRodriguez

    Don’t let the “Republican” tag fool you…Bloomberg is to the left of Nancy Pelosi. They say the republican party is not a “big tent” party, but we have Bloomberg, Schwarzenegger, McCain, and Graham. If that isn’t a cavalcade of leftists, I don’t know what is. Bloomberg doesn’t like regulations on firearms? Wow.

  22. Cato the Elder

    @Morris Davis

    The fact that the Statue of Liberty is located in NYC is a perverse joke.

  23. Morris Davis

    NRA Sets 1,000 Killed In School Shooting As Amount It Would Take For Them To Reconsider Much Of Anything

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/nra-sets-1000-killed-in-school-shooting-as-amount,28352/

  24. SlowpokeRodriguez

    The Onion……..well, I respect that publication more than HuffPo, I’ll give you that much!

  25. Steve Randolph

    “Dow Risks Steepest Monthly Drop In Two Years” (WSJ 5-31-2012)

    “Sell in May and Go Away — Far Away”.

    Alas, the old financial market mantra was right.

    Next year I’m selling in April!!

  26. marinm

    @Morris Davis

    At one time, in one day, or in a year?

  27. John Edwards slithers past justice, once again.

    I guess he is back to being just another pretty face. Any bets on when he takes back up with Ho-ess…errrr…Ms. Hunter?

  28. I hope Elizabeth haunts his sorry ass.

    The only reason I wasn’t wishing for prison is that he has 2 young children who probably need a parent.

    I hope Ms. Bunny spits on him.

  29. punchak

    @Cargosquid
    I don’t believe it’s possible to be born a dual citizen. When born in the US (diplomats and the like excepted) you are a US citizen. If the parents are of a different nationality, the issue has the possibility to choose whether to become a citizen of the US or of his parents’ country when the youngster comes of age, which used to be 21 but might now be 18.

    Can’t swear on it, but this is what I’ve heard (not read up on – too lazy)

  30. @Morris Davis
    Please…PLEASE tell me that you realize that the Onion is a satire site.

  31. marinm

    The Onion piece was funny. BTW, for those that have an iPad there is an Onion App for that! 🙂

  32. SlowpokeRodriguez

    If I hear Johnny Beefcake Edwards say “sooooo much” one more time…my head’s gonna explooooode.

  33. Censored bybvbl

    It appears that Gov. Vaginal Probe is interested in probing the Virginia skies as well as women’s bodies. I’ll bet that male Conservatives are up in arms about this issue though! These Repubs just love to play peek-a-boo.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/virginia-politics/post/bob-mcdonnell-calls-police-drones-great/2012/05/31/gJQARFFn4U_blog.html?hpid=z4

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