Allow me to answer my own question……NOT ME!
Some of you may, or may not remember the infamous “Brentswood” proposal a few years back. Like the outer beltway, whose path remains the same, but name changes, “Brentswood” has now morphed into Stonehaven.
So here was the promise by Developers, “we’ll front you the money for the 66 improvements, including the 29 overpass, if you let us build SEVEN THOUSAND homes on the Atlantic Research property.” Yet, the Developer wasn’t even going to proffer the money themselves, they were going to make citizens pay for the improvements while they pocketed the profits!
The details are even more convoluted than that, but the end result was a quality of life disaster for the citizens on the western end and a financial drain on all of PWC, having to pony up the tax dollars in order to support infrastructure required for approximately twenty thousand people, it was a losing proposition.
I hope the Supervisors of this county remember that we have 30 THOUSAND homes approved but have not yet been built. I hope they remember that we have thousands of homes in foreclosure. I hope they remember that we have even more citizens who are living in homes that are “underwater?”
Apparently Wally is up to his old tricks and Corey is more than happy to support him, of this I am sure! Let’s remember Corey is now the antithesis of his original incarnation of a “smart growth” supervisors (his words verbatim from 2003). Let’s see if Corey vehementally opposes Stonehaven as he did Brentswood when he was running for Chairman the first time around. Get your popcorn ready, its gonna be a show for sure!
“Let’s see if Corey vehementally opposes Stonehaven as he did Brentswood when he was running for Chairman the first time around.”
Bwahahaha, the properties are brokered by RK Realty and advertised on their website (www.rkrealty.va.com) and in the past year RK Realty and the principal broker Bruni Peters have contributed $21,500 to Corey, $5,000 to Wally and $2,500 to Pete. The approval is bought and paid for.
Good to see that’s a done deal. NOT!!!
Now, which home owners associations will be getting their brains sucked out tonight?
Isn’t this property off Wellington across from Nissan….errrrr…..Jiffy Lube? Exactly where is this tract of land?
It includes a number of parcels between Jiffy Lube and Linton Hall, bounded on the west by Wellington.
Thank you, Derecho.
I am wondering, have you considered your own personalized gavitar?
Welcome Derecho! I love your name 😉
Derecho has been here before, Elena, but its good of your to re-welcome him or her.
I do not think Stonehaven is Brentswood.
Stonehaven appears to be the property between Linton Hall and Wellington. I thought Brentswood was between Wellington and 66 – I could be wrong.
Either way, for those that live in the Linton Hall corridor, the last thing they need is more people.
Stonehaven is part of the larger area that would have been Brentswood in 2006. In 2006, the developers saw a friendly board with Connaughton at the head and they decided to go for broke. The public rose up and delayed, not stopped, the project. With Stonehaven they are returning to the old tried-and-true salami approach.
At that time, Corey was a real hero. People regarded him much like they regard Pete Candland now, or Connaughton before he went to the Dark Side to get developer money to run for LG. I wish we had that Corey back, but he seems to be gone.
Wally is his usual sleazy self. He and the developers scheduled a “public” forum on this project but only notified friendly HOA boards and others they knew would come out in support. I learned of this meeting only today and have a conflict. I’m sure that’s the way it was planned.
Make no mistake – this will be a huge, tax revenue-negative project that will dramatically increase congestion on the roads and overcrowding in the schools, even if the developers proffer a school site. The schools are already overcrowded and Stonehaven would bring hundreds more.
We need a complete turnover on the board except for Candland and May. Frank Principi signed the Rural Crescent pledge and has been on the right side of these issues in the past. He has an opportunity to be on right side of this one, after joining the bad guys on descretionary funds and other things recently. Pete Candland has been great on many issues and enjoys a lot of support now. Stonehaven will be his first real test on development and land issues. It will present him with a choice of continuing to serve the citizens of Prince William County and the Gainesville District, or don a Darth Vader cape as Sean and Corey did.
I am not ready to immortalize Pete Candland yet. He has a ways to go. He got picked on. Our sympathies went out to him. Actually, he ended up voting with his opporessors.
I will withold my judgement until I see what happens on the huge sums of money for the war Museum and Reinbow Riding. Mr. Candland needs to move more centrist to get the god for a day award from me. Cheaper isn’t always better. You get what you pay for. I want schools and county workers taken care of.
how did I miss Dericho, was I on vacation maybe?
I dont think so. Maybe she/he snuck up on you.
With regards to the Atlantic Research property, I sure hope before any approvals are given, somebody makes sure an environmental impact statement is done. They used to do gov’t weapon research out there, and one of the issues that had was ground contamination among others. If not careful, it could be another issue like over in Silver Springs MD and Catholic Univ where they found all kinds of stuff buried.
That was one of the issues brought up in relation to Bresntswood, now Stonehaven.
The ARC facility is (or was) zone industrial, and the ajoining areas are industrial/light industrial. It should remain such, and the county should try to attract one or more larger enterprises to the area; think Northrup Grumman and the like. Way too much residential development going on out that way. Imagine what the roads would be like for residents during concert season at Jiffy Lube? Bad enough for those already living out that way.
Commercial development would not require building additional schools, and would have less impact on the infrastructure.
A nice industrial park would be very welcome in PWC. Leadership never seems to be able to attract that kind of business.
Good to see you, Oy Vey. Where have you been hanging out?
Oy Vey,
I don’t understand, promote common sense and real leadership? Do you know Prince William County?
The leadership in the county would rather approve an “outer beltway” so we can take our workers OUT of the county for jobs that create revenue for other localities 🙁
I think the ARC site is a superfund site but these homes would be across the street. Just think they’ll be living next to a concert venue AND a superfund site. Makes for an exciting neighborhood and it sounds like the perfect set up for a Walking Dead type of new show for the AMC channel where neighbors appear normal during the day but then turn into mutant beasts at night when the music starts playing.
Let’s define “superfund site” so we are all on the same sheet of music.
Funny anonymouse!
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/
A Superfund site is an uncontrolled or abandoned place where hazardous waste is located, possibly affecting local ecosystems or people. Sites are listed on the National Priorities List (NPL) upon completion of Hazard Ranking System (HRS) screening, public solicitation of comments about the proposed site, and after all comments have been addressed.
Over the past 20+ years, Superfund has located and analyzed tens of thousands of hazardous waste sites, protected people and the environment from contamination at the worst sites, and involved states, local communities, and other partners in cleanup. Superfund measures its cleanup accomplishments through various criteria including construction and post construction completions of hazardous waste sites.
One of the worst ones in the world is right outside Dover, NJ.
What were they thinking!!!
Moon, that’s just it…for a lot of instances, nobody ever thought about what the long term effects were. It wasn’t really until beginning around 1972 there was any beginnings of a national movement.
I always shake my head though when people grab up land from the Federal gov’t or private industry and want to develop on it. Take Dawson’s Beach here in the east end of PWC – a former research facility and what is placed there? The County Transitional Housing. And you don’t even want to begin to look at the training areas of Quantico….a “joke” about the land donated for the Cemetary there was it was so contaminated, best use was as a cemetary.
I have been on places at Quantico and up at Fort Belvoir in the training areas in my military days that when it rains, you see the “blue haze” form in the puddles along the trails….motor fuel or oil seeping out of the ground.
But nobody thought about it all back in the day. Now, people think for the most part.
Pardon me for bringing this up but…..Why isn’t someone doing something about it now? People live near this crap in the earth. What is the long range effect of living on top of a god knows what dump?
And to think I am worried about living on a Civil War dump….
Q: What is the long range effect of living on top of a god knows what dump?
A: GL
@Moon-howler
Why? primarily costs involved. And then, where do you put the contaminated dirt or other things except maybe in the middle of Death Valley.
I was chuckling, Moon, over the Civil War dump. My house is on part of the land that used to be Liberia Plantation as it stretched down present day Liberia to the bridge on Lomond. Whenever I start digging in the yard, I find all kinds of things….when I dug the garden plot, I found old tractor parts, horseshoes, and even an old cast iron handmade candle stand. Sometimes I think of getting a metal detector to see what else is on my little third of an acre.
You might not even want to know! It is creepy to think what might be under there. Over here, some of the “down under” alien material has been made worse by flooding.
There is a lot of empty space in Nevada. How about paying the Russians for put it in Chernobyl?