An excerpt from Lorraine Devon Wilke writing in the Huffington Post in an opinion piece entitled: Chicken With a Side of Bigotry: Chick-fil-A’s Ungodly Business Plan:
… but it seems Chick-fil-A’s president (and son of founder S. Truett Cathy), Dan Cathy, has gotten himself into some deep chicken doo-doo for proudly and loudly declaring himself “guilty as charged!” for his support of that great Christian umbrella of homophobia, the “family values and traditional marriage” platform. Yep, he’s a believer. And not only has Mr. Cathy blathered all the usual fundamentalist talking points (i.e., “We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit,” and “…thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”), but his company has reportedly put their big money where their bigger mouth is by donating nearly $2 million to anti-gay groups.
That’s a whole lot of intolerance.
Ok, I am pretty entertained. But what’s this article have to do with Chick-Fil-A? I like their nuggests as long as I can get about 5 packs of house sauce to go with them? What? Repeat that please….No Way!!!! Check out the video:
Ok, I still don’t see the problem. So this guy says some things not so politically correct.
Ut Oh! Local people are protesting! No! Tell me again! It seems that the Prince William Chambers of Commerce will host an event at Hylton Center with COO Dan Cathy at a business lecture in November:
Mark your calendar and register now for an insightful lunch with Chick-fil-A President & COO, Dan Cathy. Don’t miss this exclusive opportunity to learn the leadership secrets of a Fortune 500 executive– this will be Mr. Cathy’s only appearance in the mid-Atlantic region this year!
Join us…
Tue., Nov. 27; 11:30 a.m.-1:30 p.m.
@Hylton Performing Arts Center
What ARE they thinking? Maybe the PW Chamber of Commerce needs to walk this one back. Too much exposure. Too politically incorrect. Then again, this is Prince William County.
Shrug.
UPDATE:
Will you still eat at Chick-Fil-A? (WaPo story)
So political correctness is actually a weapon against free speech it would seem. God forbid someone would say that marriage is between a man and a woman. Gee, that would be so bizarre for someone to actually think that now wouldn’t it. What I want to know is WHO is it that determines what is politically correct? It seems to me it is those who engage in what was once looked upon as anything but normal along with a team of lawyers from the ACLU. So lets see, if someone says it’s ok for a man to attempt sex with another man, that’s ok, but for someone to say that it isn’t natural (for obvious reasons) then they are attacked. Just think of who is doing the attacking though. Remember, the silent majority is called that for a reason, it’s just that they don’t have an ACLU as their mouthpiece.
Those are good questions, SA. Exactly who is are the “politically correct police?” Probably the guy who yells the loudest and makes it stick. I would say this is the year of the ….well…gay person…for lack of a better word.
It might be something as simple as who has the most money at the time or who has the strongest lobbyist.
Many people are offended by the anti gay sentiment. Young people lead the charge on what is acceptable to say about everything racial or everything alternative sexual. <---- how do you like that one? I think what gets people into anti gay trouble is when they reach outside their own religious parameter or if you start hammering about the politics.
SA, I left out one thing. I don’t think it is the ACLU on the issue of gay politically correct policing. The gay lobby is very powerful now and they seem to be by passing the ACLU as far as stepping up to the plate and calling foul. Perhaps that is just how I see it but what does everyone else thing?
Just out of curiosity, why would anyone discuss specifics? That sounds like a recipe for failure to me.
Exactly Moon, it’s the people with the biggest mouth, and having the brain washing news media on their side. Just look at politics. It’s well known that most major media outlets are liberal leaning, and so the voters are flooded with one point of view with the other point of view catching hell from the same outlets. The silent majority doesn’t stand a chance, and they know it, so they just keep their mouths shut. That is until the elections roll around!
Nothing will stop gays or hertero’s (is that the word?) from eating at Chik-fil-A. That stuff is like crack.
At work we call the Chik-Fil-A sauce “crack sauce” and the employees laugh when we call it that.
@marinm
Its wonderfully delicious though. You could put it on goat turds and you would be begging for more.
Now I have grossed myself out.
@Second Alamo
SA, part of me agrees with you and the other part of me says, at what point do we insist that people use good public manners. Right now, gays and illegal immigrants seem to be the last vestiges of people we can poke fun at and be rude to.
I don’t think it ever hurts to be forced to be polite. That’s the only way some people will rise to the occassion.
I once had someone jump me because I said “black” rather than “African America.” I asked them if the word black offended them personally. They said no. I said then asked why they cared what I said as long as I didn’t offend them. then I said I had changed my speech many times on this topic over the years, to conform to courtesy and I had changed enough. Unless I was offending someone I would stick to my own speech.
That ended that. I also had someone jump on me for saying there were no sacred cows in the room. I told that person off also.
So….there are two sides to this issue. I am not going to walk on egg shells, neither will I accept public speech from when I was growing up, especially when talking about others.
SA, and finally, what we say in our own homes is our business. My grandkids get after me for saying things they don’t think are PC. I tell them tough crap….its my house.
They mistakenly think that noticing a person’s ethnicity is racist. I really blast them for that. Ex. That Asian child who sang that song did a nice (or lousy) job. They would fling a fit because I had said Asian as a descriptor. Geez/
@Moon-howler
“SA, part of me agrees with you and the other part of me says, at what point do we insist that people use good public manners. Right now, gays and illegal immigrants seem to be the last vestiges of people we can poke fun at and be rude to.”
Fatties and smokers are pretty high up on the list.
“They mistakenly think that noticing a person’s ethnicity is racist. I really blast them for that. Ex. That Asian child who sang that song did a nice (or lousy) job. They would fling a fit because I had said Asian as a descriptor. Geez”
Agreed. Imagine you having to say, “Hey look at that car over there! It’s pretty.” The response you would get back is – “what car?” Asian as a descriptor only helps the person figure out who your talking about. It’s not like you used a racial term.
You can call me hispanic or latino and I’m cool with that because that is who I am (but I could argue that I am ‘Merican! and the other stuff doesn’t matter). Now if you called me a few ‘choice’ words I’d have to stab you — that’s my culture. 🙂
My wife once told me that Neil Patrick Harris (he’s gay but plays straight really really well) was told about Chik-Fil-A’s stance on gays and he couldn’t commit to a boycott because the food is just too damn good.
I say if anyone has a problem with Chik-Fil-A they can enjoy the McChicken and McNuggets.
The folks at Chick-Fil-A are so polite you could probably go get the sauce there and go around to McDonalds or KFC and get your nuggets.
I understand you would have to cut me. sigh. I also know that people, espcially kid type people really don’t like being called Mexican if they aren’t. That is just ignorant though. I bristled once over someone introducing me as being from a state that wasn’t Virginia.
You are also right about gays and immigrants not being the only ones. I had forgotten about the behavioral issues. There are also religious no nos.
People have known for a long time about Chick-fil-a’s stance on homosexuality and their Christianity. How many other businesses are closed on Sundays anymore? But the lines are still out the door most days, because the food is superior and the service is off-the-charts friendly. I’ve never had anyone at McDonald’s offer to refill my drink when I was eating there, or to clear my table. I’ve never found free snacks for toddlers anywhere else in the fast-foodasphere.
I’m probably the most gay-friendly Catholic I know, but I still love the place and have no intention of giving up my chargrilled chicken garden salad anytime soon. It’s not as if they’re posting a sign that says “No Gays Allowed”. The guy just has an opinion.
@Second Alamo
SA, I gotta add something to this discussion that will probably have me sitting in the corner but I don’t care. People who have lived through war have earned the right to call anyone that is considered the enemy (ie has been shooting at them or trying to kill them in any way) the right to call that enemy politically incorrect names. I have never been more outraged as I was when some folks were climbing all over John McCain for slipping up and calling the Viet cong or NV Army “gooks.” So the hell what. He was kept POW for years and he can call them anything he wants to call them.
I am currently doing a Tour of Duty marathon (Netflix). It used to be one of my favorite shows. The actors are saying “dinks” and “gooks” all the time. What a difference 20 years or so makes. I doubt that show could be aired today. That leaves an awful lot of my generation out in the cold.
I am not sure it is healthy. I am not recommending calling someone living in America that. It would be rude to do so. But retroactively? Someone trying to kill you? Have at it as a reference.
@Emma
It isn’t enough to make me give up my favorite chicken sauce. I tend to agree, its ok to have an opinion. I didn’t realize that they were specifically “anti-gay” but I did know that store was extremely Christian. Fine by me. Their worker bees are courteous and they don’t screw up your order. I like the work ethic there, whatever it is.
If they ban gays or go out of their way to be hateful (I can;t imagine) then I might have to buy my monthy treat of chicken tenders elsewhere.
Would I go listen to the guy speak? Probably not. I guess there are just levels of boycot.
@Emma
There have been complaints, however. I got this thread from one of the complaintants.
People can have whatever opinions they want. However, when they attempt to make their opinion of policy of government, then I get unfriendly.
Cucinnelli can hate gays for all I care. However, when he tries to enact laws that discriminate against them, then I draw the line.
Government may not deny certain people rights and not others.
Moon to your #12. I must admit that I cringe when the word Vietnam is mentioned. It’s because at one time they were, as you say, the enemy and that is difficult to suppress. It also makes me think of how ridiculous war is. At the end of the day what was the point of people who don’t know anything about one another going out and trying to kill one another. There are reasons to go after people who do bad things, but the majority of those fighting the war on both sides are good people who never did a thing wrong. The problem is our ‘leaders’ place those same people in a situation where it is kill or be killed, and so away we go. Each side feeling that they must kill to survive while the ‘leaders’ sit back and defend the actions taken.
NO argument here, SA. Agreed. Often those leaders are sitting back also getting rich off of the misery of others.
I might have told you I am doing a Tour of Duty marathon here at Howler acres. I always loved that show with LT and Sarge.
It took a while for me to realize I could pretty much do endless “rental” of shows taken off TV that I really liked. Anyway, some 50 years later….holy cow. I am sitting here wanting to go through my TV over the “policy.” What an idiot war that stole our generation. What idiots running the show.
No, you haven’t grossed yourself out–the buffalo sauce is pretty good on Goat Turds.
So let me see if I have this straight (no pun intended)–so called Christians (CINOs) are calling for a boycott of an organization founded on Christian principles. How does that work? Are the founders of Chick-Fil-A to be denied the protection of the First Amendment?
Is it just possible that this whole thing has been started by a bunch of rogue chickens; i.e. Tea Chickens?
I wonder what would happen if it was determined that Ray Croc or Harland Sanders were homosexuals?
George, you are cracking me up! CINOs. Too funny!!!!!!
@Moon-howler
@Second Alamo
Just wondering–does anyone still refer to the Japanese as “Japs” or Germans as “Krauts”?
I suppose there are some WWII guys out there that still do but the Greatest Generation is dying off at about 1,000 a day so that problem will be solved before too much longer. Then we Korean and Vietnam War veterans can have our day in the sun and freely use the terms for orientals like “gooks”, “zipper heads”, “dinks” or whatever other derogatory term we can come up with.
And while on the subject–can we straights take back the word “gay”, which used to be used to mean “happily excited” or “keenly alive and exuberant” according to Webster. And we can go back to calling male homosexuals “male homosexuals” or the old standby, “queers” or other more descriptive terms that aren’t fit to be posted here..
“People have known for a long time about Chick-fil-a’s stance on homosexuality and their Christianity. How many other businesses are closed on Sundays anymore?”
I don’t think that people knew they were donating money to anti-gay marriage causes. I didn’t. I won’t eat there any more so long as they reserve that right. It’s not hate, but it’s bigotry.
Everyone knew they were religious. A lot of people like me aren’t bigoted against that. But this goes beyond that.
I am not sure what they are doing that is anti-gay. I guess I need to read further.
Movie recommendations please!!!!
I want to overturn Virginia’s marriage laws. I think the law discriminates against everyone. I also don’t think there should be a marriage financial bonus.
Panera’s is my idea of fast food. I’ve never eaten at a Chick-fil-a. GL’s endorsement and the restaurant’s religiosity turned me off. Its anti-gay stance seals the deal. Once in a blue moon DH and I will got thru Micky D’s for some chicken McNuggets for the terrier and border collie. Mea culpa.
@Moon-howler
I’m curious.
Since you want to overturn them….what limits would YOU put on them?
California is examining the idea that 3 or more people can be parents.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/GMAHealth/california-considers-bill-multiple-legal-parents/story?id=16705628#.UAh9IPXdtQI
If that works…expect polygamy/polyandry to come back.
What am I overturning? The marriage law? I would just repeal it. I don;t like it and voted against it.
@Censored bybvbl
I have not seen a single sign that says anything about homosexuals and believe it or not, they don’t hold revival meetings in any of their restaurants. What “religiosity” are you talking about?
Religiosity is a sociological term referring to degrees of religious behaviour, belief or spirituality. The measurement of religiosity is hampered by the difficulties involved in defining what is meant by the term. Numerous studies have explored the different components of religiosity, with most finding some distinction between religious beliefs/ doctrine, religious practice, and spirituality. Studies can measure religious practice by counting attendance at religious services, religious beliefs/ doctrine by asking a few doctrinal questions, while spirituality can be measured by asking respondents about their sense of oneness with the divine or through detailed standardized measurements. When religiosity is measured, it is important to specify which aspects of religiosity are referred to.
So again I would ask, what aspect of “religiosity” are you talking about? Is being closed on Sundays what you mean about their “religiosity”?
Please go back and read my comment at #18. Are you one of the CINOs I’m talking about?
I would like to answer for Censored. No, I promise she isn’t a CINO.
“Movie recommendations please”
In theatres :
Best Exotic Marigold Hotel
The Intouchables
Hysteria
On DVD :
Salmon Fishing in the Yemen
Friends with Kids
Anonymous
Tyler Perry’s Good Deeds
Chronicle
Mission Impossible : Ghost Protocol
My Week with Marilyn
Thanks Rick!!!
I saw My Week with Marylyn.
Different kind of movie for sure.
How do you find the time?
You must go to the movies more than my daughter does.
and Project X too – funny
It’s my thing, my main hobby.