The natives seem to be restless down at McCoart Building if one holds one’s ear to the ground and reads the blogs.
Although it does not seem like much is going on in Prince William County, actually, a great deal is happening, mostly behind the scenes. Maybe what isn’t happening is even more telling.
The Sheriff apparently has a bounty on his head (and other parts) and has had what is more politely described as a change of venue in the eyes of the county chair….at least according to the Sheriff of …Not-tingham. He has accused the chairman of having one outrageous temper tantrum over his mere existence.
Meanwhile, a little birdie has dropped a little roll of paper on my front porch telling of another temper tantrum directed at a rather high ranking employee. Does anyone have confirmation of such a thing happening? It was done in the public arena or semi-public. How many tantrums can one person have? I want a front row seat for this Tuesday’s BOCS meeting.
We are all awaiting the [trumpets] publishing of the agenda for the meeting. Gainesville Supervisor Pete Candland has a proposed Resolution to control conflict of interest in the county. Rumor has it that the resolution will never see the light of day. We shall see. I don’t like to rely on gossip. This one is easy. Either the motion appears on the agenda today as it should or it doesn’t. That sure cuts through the gossip fast. See Does Pete Candland’s Resolution Go Far Enough.
Hopefully, Mom will serve as the town cryer and let us know when the agenda is published and if it contains the Candland Conflict of Interest Resolution.
Meanwhile, don’t horde your information. If you have something to tell, this is the spot.
Why bother going to the meeting, according to Peacor in this mornings WAPO, the allocation of the carryover funds is apparently already done. The Board has apparently already “committed” to such things as $178,000 to the Rainbow Riding Center because they were “cut” from the budget and can provide a service the county apparently needs at a cost cheaper than the county could provide it. I can think of a lot of places that money could be better spent.
What? Rainbow gets $178,000?
What do you mean they were cut from the budget?
It would behoove those having such outbursts, to watch their mouths/backs. Clearly, “their own” are willing to “tell all”. Go ahead, Corey and company keep up the “fine commentary”. it sure makes for interesting entertainment.
@Mom
I would like to see a refund and be able to spend the money myself. I feel certain, I could put the money to better use than county can.
@Lafayette
Well since Kevorkian has passed on and you and Moon seem to be in need of his services, if you get a refund, I’ll perform the service for the exact amount of your refund check. Alas, as I don’t have a medical degree and thus can’t acquire the prescription drugs he used so we will have to make do with copious quantities of Scotch.
Perp walks!!! I want to see perp walks at the McCoart Building!!!
And here we have it folks..
http://eservice.pwcgov.org/documents/bocs/agendas/currentagenda.pdf
I don’t see the Candland Conflict of Interest Resolution on there. Perhaps I overlooked it?
Nor did I, Moon. I’m sure mom can correct us if we are wrong. Looks like you’ll be needing Dr. K more than I. Let there be light for the Grizzlies via proffer money. Meanwhile, the next neighborhood over remains in the dark.
You know, Laf, I asked for one set of effen trash cans at Silver Lake. Additionally, I asked for Silver Lake to be used as a star gazing site for celestial events such as a lunar eclipse or watching meteor showers. I got passed all over the place and told we would have to provide for the cops. It just didn’t seem worth it.
I can’t go out of my g-damn house because they won’t spray for mosquitoes over here and we get eaten live. Now I pick up the paper and I see that Rainbow riding gets $178,000 plus $33,000. Well, isn’t that special? How many supervisors did you entertain out at the center, Miss Debi, speaking of conflict of interest?
I hope the supervisors are all feeling all touchy feely good about themselves for spending over $200,000 to crap up Silver Lake even worse than it already is. Let’s throw a school and an airplane hanger on top of what is supposed to be a peaceful setting. A paved parking lot ought to just finish off the look of route 1 instead of a lake setting.
I will never forget my feeling of disgust when all the poor teachers, one who was just recovering from a cancer operation were down at the BOCS meeting asking for more money for the schools. Then that SOB from Fairfax came in and wanted money so his kids could ride horses. Its a good thing I wasn’t down there eye ball to eye ball with that dude. HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE!
I didn’t see Candland’s resolution either.
Rainbow Riding – $178,000 and they served 114 individuals in FY12. That’s $1,561.40 per person.
$100,000 for the Avendale football field. Covington and the promoters told us that NO MORE TAXPAYER MONEY would go to this.
Perp walks!! Perp walks!!
@Need to Know
They sure did!! Do they not only think we are asleep at the wheel, and have dementia as well?
Has anyone found the extra $1 million for the Wartime Museum yet? Another scam we were told would consume no more taxpayer money.
@Lafayette
Forgot to say thanks for linking this fast. The Sheriff had a post up already that Peacor had missed the legally-required deadline for posting this.
It just went up, NTK. Good catch, Laf. I had just looked not more than 45 minutes ago.
You are most welcome. I was thinking today might be the day they missed the deadline. Oh well, perhaps next time.
How do we get that conflict of interest on the ballot as a county referendum?
@NTK
Don’t leave out the $33,000 that they received in April. Don’t forget the land, don’t forget the money of their own they are sitting on.
I just went out to look for the Agenda….guess what folks? You get a “page not found” when clicking on the BOCS left side menu for Agenda!!!!
Oh, oh, oh….did they put up the earlier version and somebody went – “Oh Sh#$!…the Candland resolution has to be there as if not, we BOCS violated our own Policy also posted on the web for all to see????!!!???”
Moon, as noted in my previous comment, by the BOCS own procedures, Candland did it write..introduced it by their own policy and so it should be on the Agenda – if for no other reason, more discussion. I am still amused how “it was not in the book” and Phil Campbell, the BOCS own Clerk, had the paper copies to hand up the other week. Classic!
Can anything be done?
whoops…wrong quote…meant to do #18 not #19….LOL!
Connie Moser just posted on the Sheriff’s blog that she received the agenda by email and item 10-B is Pete’s resolution. The PDF of the agenda I downloaded from Lafayette’s link has no item 10-B; only 10-A, which is an item from Nohe to appoint someone to the Equalization Board. I’ve saved it on my hard drive. There are apparently two versions of this agenda floating around.
Now the version of the agenda posted on the County website includes item 10-B, Pete Candland’s resolution.
http://eservice.pwcgov.org/documents/bocs/agendas/2012/20120807.pdf
They changed it within an hour. I downloaded and saved both. Isn’t this illegal? The Sheriff said they missed the legal deadline for posting the agenda. Then, the agenda was changed from the orginal version that was posted.
Version of the agenda I downloaded at 11:05 – no Item 10-B (Candland resolution)
Version of the agenda I downloaded at 11:37 – Item 10-B (Candland resolution) included
Sheriff – are you listening?
NTK, Hold on to both and date them please, just like you did.
I guess maybe the resolution is now going to see the light of day.
Now I want to see the light of day on Rainbow and the war museum.
I am irritated enough today that I now want a piece of those grizzly lights and the park that got sacked.
My neighborhood is dark as hell. I talked to stirrup’s office about it for 4 years and you can see the lights. NOT. Nothing prevents crime like lighting. There is not one street light. Yet….athletic lights go up. UFB!
I also want to see those mostions and read before the vote is taken. I never know what they are voting on and I am not sure they do either.
BTW, has anyone come back with a report of a temper tantrum by our esteemed chairman? Maybe no one else got chewed out. Maybe I am just hearing things. Maybe I have bad blogger ears.
Off the agenda
Approve Stonewall Jackson Voting Precinct Name Change – Approve the name change of the Stonewall Jackson voting precinct to “Jackson Precinct” (8820 Rixlew Lane, Manassas, VA) – Betty Weimer – Registrar of Voters
WHY??????? It is Stonewall Jackson. It isn’t JACKSON PRECINCT!!!!!
@Moon-howler
Done and done. Both are on my hard drive with the exact times I downloaded them.
Thanks NTK, You will be our go to guy when we need it and you know we will.
I epect that resolution will be so altered and chopped up by Tuesday night it will be unrecognizable.
Even the light of day won’t know it.
I still can’t find anything on the Wartime Museum, and I searched each of the PDF files for “Wartime” as well as scouring them manually. If the money is in there, it’s buried in another account, which will be worse for them than just admitting openly what they are doing. They said at budget time that the Wartime Museum will get another $1 million, paid in $200,000 installments from the carryover.
Just to clarify — the $100,000 that is going to the Grizzlies is from proffer funds paid by the developer as a part of their rezoning, and is not taxpayer dollars.
@Lafayette
The Sheriff has CONFIRMED that the Agenda and supporting documents were sent to the BOCS yesterday, and that is a CLEAR VIOLATION of the statute.
The clumsy nonsense on posting the Agenda, whichever version they want to put up, is not the issue.
So, to your point, they are caught.
@The Sheriff of Nottingham
Well, I was watching the county website for the new agenda. It’s usually posted there a couple of minutes before the mass email goes out with the new agenda. Well, it’s nice that the citizens could point out the error of their ways. I printed the agenda when I saw it, because I was certain I’d missed something. They really do think we are stupid sometimes. It really is ashame more citizens weren’t paying better attention before going to the polls last November. They feel safe for three and half more years, I suppose.
@Watchful Eyes
Uh Watchful, proffer monies are collected to offset the negative impact of development projects. They don’t begin to cover the cost but that is a discussion for another day. Thus the monies proffered are supposed to keep us from paying additional taxes to fund the improvements required for the development. So in a macro sense, yes they are taxpayer funds. Further, every dollar in the county budget is by definition taxpayer dollars as we ultimately “own” every one of those dollars.
The most frustrating part of all of this is that Corey and Peacor are sitting on their thrones in the McCoart Building, along with the assorted and sundry jesters they control (aside from the rogue Candland) looking down on all of us and thinking that they are in charge and how dare the commoners (as the Sheriff would say), question their judgment and authority.
I’ve spent too much time on this today (I have real work to do also, that I’ll be catching up on tomorrow instead of enjoying the weekend) but have perused multiple blogs of many political persuasions; Moonhowlings, BVBL, the Sheriff, and others, and they are all of the same mind on this matter. Are Corey, Peacor and the rest really so dense as to not see what they are creating and what’s coming? Do they forget that those of us who are mad at the moment have long memories and big hard drives? 2015 is not that far off, and the Lieutenant Governor primary is even sooner.
@The Derecho
Precisely.
@Need to Know
For anybody interested–
Here is a statement by the National Conference of State Legislatures—
“Virginia has a process similar to a recall, but it is not listed here as a recall state because its process, while requiring citizen petitions, calls for a recall trial rather than an election. After sufficient petition signatures are gathered and verified, a circuit court decides whether a Virginia official will be removed from office. In all other recall states, the voters decide through an election.”
And here is a link to the Code of Virginia section–
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+24.2-233
Not recommending it necessarily but provided for information.
@Clinton S. Long
Thanks Clinton. I think Jim Riley at Virtucon has already started looking into that. Maybe he’ll post an update. Momentum for this might start picking up after next Tuesday.
@Need to Know
“Corey and Peacor are sitting on their thrones in the McCoart Building” thanks for a mental picture that will take quite a few frosty beverages to erase.
@Mom
Speaking of that, when are we going to have another Moonhowlings frosty beverage get-together?
I am game. I see a single malt scotch in my future.
@Need to Know
You know where to find me at around 7:30, I’m nothing if not predictable.
Most of us wait for an invitation to join you at your headquarters. We don’t just drop in.
I guess a leopard really never changes their spots. 🙄
What are leopards doing? Sharpening their claws? Lying? Dusting about?
I think I heard about the other temper tantrum. Had to do with a slide depicting hoarding. The story is that the Boss blew a gasket because we don’t have hoarding in PWC and refuses to hear anything different from anyone.
Holy Bat-Doo, Lyssa! I am assuming you are referring to El Jefe Stewart since you are talking about temper tantrums.
Has anyone else heard about that? Sheriff, please ask around about the “other tantrum.” People are going to start looking else where for work if he doesn’t stop abusing the employees.
Of course there is hording in this county. There was a case over in Yorkshire a year or two ago that neighborhood services had to get involved with. A horder car almost hit Chris coming out of Dennys also. What was El jefe’s problem?
@Moon-howler
Moon, El Jefe railroaded the hiring through of the biggest bully and abuser of employees the county government has ever known. He thought this boneheaded move would help him get what he wanted. He is now reaping the rewards of his own stupidity and unbridled ambition.
@NTK, El Jefe sounds like he is imploding.
If that Resolution is buried, I will devote time each week to getting it heard.
I don’t even know that I totally support it. It might be one of those “beware of unintended consequences” kinds of resolution. Our county is famous for advancing those. However, discussion is needed. Someone is trying to hide something.
@Moon-howler
We’re watching a once promising political career implode before our eyes. Elena hosted a fundraiser for him and I was as strong a supporter as he could have ever found. He stabbed us and many others in the back because he considered doing so expedient for his career. This trail of former supporters and his manipulation of the county government including hiring of incompetent sycophants is now coming back to haunt him.
An interesting approach since Ms. Horan seems to indicate that the resolution would violate state law as currently written, the following approach may be used.
Any entity that has a BOCS member or relative on its board or as an officer, except for those that board membership is required under state law, is ineligible for PWC funding. Then everyone can continue voting as they see fit–it would just be a Pyrrhic victory for the nonprofit.
That might be interesting. I offered it because I thought a little satire about the alleged legal opinion was in order.
If you want draconian, that would do it.
Or perhaps put into context, if the reports of the alleged legal opinion is true, does that alleged opinion mean that Supervisor Nohe could not recuse himself if his company wanted a land use exemption since recusal would prevent him from his voting obligations under state law?
Stewart doesn’t know what it takes to be a politician. He never did. He thought screaming for national attention with sensational acts was how you begin. He never cared one bit for this county or it’s residents. He’s used us all. If he really follows through on running for Lt Gov I hope he promises to never come back. Let’s see if he goes through with it – he’ll have to act like a big boy not a bully and I don’t think it’s in his character to do so. Besides he’s forever linked to the “send them back with love” video.
still seem to be having some troubles posting anonymous over at Sheriff’s site. Seems like he’s still being selective…..maybe doesn’t want to hear from those who disagree?
Eddie, those blogspot sites just have a steep learning curve. It isn’t intuitive. It took me a few days to learn how to do it.
He isn’t being selective. I don’t think he censors. I am more likely to censor than he is.
Click comments then slide the screen down when over there. Its all in the side bars.
For those wondering where the funding for the Wartime museum is, the Prince William section of the WAPO details Allan Cors withdrawing the funding request. I just wrote on the juxtaposition of that article with Corey’s self-serving letter in the Views section of the News and Messenger.
@The Derecho
You did a great job with that also. Thanks for letting us know and good for Allan Cors for withdrawing his request. He gets it.
Corey’s letter:
http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2012/aug/05/guest-commentary-feds-should-follow-prince-william-ar-2106930/
Alan Cors is now on the good guys list. A gentleman who gets it. As for Corey’s continued BS, more later.
So does Kathy Bentz. A little bird told me she was also part of the planning. This might be a good time to say that Kathy has some good friends out there. SEveral people had some very good things about her and her work with the county.
Kathy makes it to the good guys list. Ta dahhh!
Kathy was always very straightforward when I dealt with them years ago. Haven’t seen what you’re referencing here – agree she’s a good guy.