According to a new youtube channel, it looks as if Greg’s spawning an ‘army’ in Fairfax; very disturbing.
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Interesting “sound” bytes there, Juturna. Your eloquence in debate rivals any that I’ve seen on this site, and your obsession with wishing harm on those with whom you disagree is truly a signature of this site. It amazes me that someone like Redawn can come here believing that she can run into a better class of people. Most of the comments I’ve seen on this thread show no class at all, unless implied threats to life (“Okay, so when are we arresting him as a threat to society?”) and livelihood (“Right now WHO employs him? We need to start a list of suspects.”) are considered classy by folks here. And then there’s the matter of bringing Greg’s family into the discussion…that really shows class (I better include a sarcasm alert for the second part of that sentence…hard to tell how that might be read).
“but she is OUR KG and I will stand up to those that attack her. Particularly the pit bulls.” LOL! Thanks, Juturna.
AW, this isn’t about class distinction. If you want to play that game, go somewhere else (I can recommend a few subdivisions if you need me to). This is about real people and finding real solutions.
Oh yeah AW, I am gunna learn all about class from you. Oh yeah. Well, enough, this has sunk as low as I can go.
G’night KG. We have to have each others backs.
AW, perhaps if GL didn’t THREATEN me, I might actually believe his words were analogies. Since he has a record of harassing people, however, I think it’s safe to believe he’s quite serious.
J, Got your back, bud! Sleep tight.
Juturna, you are the queen of the sandbox. I wouldn’t come near you.
Well, Admin (assuming you are, or will be, reading this thread), it would seem that you friends here are suggesting that you are a liar. Obviously, some of your main people have absolutely no desire to see anything but an Amen chorus here and your claims of open dialogue and debate are simply more rhetoric. Congratulations…your site may well set a record for irrelevance if your friends get their way. I’ve seen FAR more debate on BVBL, regardless of how impassioned it may become at times, than I’ve seen here in my “lurking.”
kg: we only have your word that GL threatened you! Given how you don’t seem to understand how comparing the Holocaust to what is happening in PWC to be offensive to some people, you lack any credibility here. In fact, given how you completely misunderstand the Holocaust, it isn’t a big stretch that you misunderstand rhetoric at what is obviously a partisan gathering to mean something much more sinister than it is.
AW.
Oh, Yeah, that freak Advocator really has some debate in him. He is a mentally impaired hater and that is all there is to it. Go lurk yourself.
I find it interesting how much name-calling exists here–Nazi, racist, bigot, dense, fascist, idiot–and these all coming from the open-minded, tolerant crowd. And when their statements are challenged, they whimper about being “attacked.” No irony there.
Anon at *:37….Kg is not hiding behind the lack of a name….show a pair…
Sorry…ANON at 8:37…that was for you.
When you call out someone for telling you that comparing the resolution to what the Nazis did being offensive, and tell them to “go back where they came from” – it becomes obvious you aren’t interested in hearing anything that you don’t agree with. Apparently the idea that this blog is open to both sides of the debate is a complete farce! Again, resorting to bullying people when you don’t agree with them! All I see here is name calling, bullying, etc. Your comment about Greg’s family was followed by a really offensive comment implying his wife was probably “barfefoot and pregnant”. More name calling, but instead of logical debate there’s just mud slinging.
Thanks, Do the Right Thing, for adding to my list:
“freak”
“mentally impaired hater”
Wow, amazing level of anger here. Anyone think about taking up knitting or something? It can be very calming.
kgotthardt said on 28 Apr 2008 at 8:25 pm:
“AW, this isn’t about class distinction.”
Juturna, perhaps you should educate your friend about the varied meaning of assorted words in the English language (i.e. “class”) depending upon their context.
By the way kgotthardt, I’m a naturalized citizen (which actually makes English my second language), but I’d suggest that my grasp of the English language far exceeds yours.
Anon, first, I have two emails from GL, a man I have never met. I reported these to the police. I had an officer spend more than an hour at my house so we could discuss this little issue of GL picking me out of a crowd.
Second, GL took the time and effort to make sure I was alone at the last BOCS meeting so he could sit there with his friends and try to intimidate me before I went to speak.
Third, Nazis are people who hold a racist ideology that includes supporting ethnic cleansing. I’ve said again and again that we don’t have gas chambers here, but we DO have a Nazi party. While GL might not be a member, he’d fit right in with his rhetoric and his plans. Remember, this is the man that the KKK APPROVES of. We’re not talking a nice guy here.
Finally, I don’t know why you are spouting partisanship or political leanings here unless it’s that YOU are partisan. I don’t belong to parties. I don’t even BELIEVE in parties. I’m pretty moderate but the problem is, none of the extremists like moderates. Oh well. I’m not here to be liked. I’m here to talk about solutions. If you are as well, I suggest you visit the “solutions” thread and add to the constructive idea pool.
“it becomes obvious you aren’t interested in hearing anything that you don’t agree with.” If you spout sludge instead of ideas, then yes, please DO go back from whence you came. You’re in the wrong place.
LuckyDuck and I have gone back and forth and we are on opposite sides of the debate. Why can I do this with him/her? Because he has put a lot of time, though, and energy into this discussion, NOT HATRED of people who speak different languages like GL and his buddies.
And AW I don’t really care where you are from. Haven’t we figured out by now that ethnicity shouldn’t be the issue here? Unfortunately, it IS, as you have just proven.
anon said on 28 Apr 2008 at 8:42 pm:
I beg your pardon, that statement was about his way of thinking, and nothing to directly with his family. That’s his personal/private life, and it should remain as such. You won’t find me to be disrespectful, even with those I disagree. Most of have lives and give a rat’s ass about his. get over it.
Lets lighten the mood up people. ( only meant in good fun)
I think everyone is KUNG FU fighting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boZhC2J4DOI
AWCheney
At least it is not censored here so everyone can speak for them selves.
I don’t think it is possible for anyone to keep straight faced all the time with such passionate issues.
And NO, I do not like the name calling, etc.
Hey good vid! Here’s another one of my favorites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt-x6lkFvY
AW,
The same argument of the English language when you cannot say anything else. You can come to this website anytime but don’t expect the respect of all of us. We have had many debates in the past and we know how you “operate”. In all your posts here your interest is in finding what this site is doing wrong. Bring something new to the debate and them, maybe, people will be civil with you.
Like I said kgotthardt…your grasp of the English language and all its nuances leaves much to be desired. To be kind, perhaps it is merely a matter of your use of selective reading glasses (although that’s probably too subtle for you).
kgotthardt,
I forgot about Tracey Ullman. I use to watch her show 🙂
AW…….WHAT-EVA. I’m not here to impress you or anyone else. Go to bed
Well, your definition of a Nazi differs from the dictionary. It says they espouse the beliefs and policies of the German Nazi party. I’m sorry, but those beliefs were EXTERMINATION of the Jewish race. Saying that we do have a Nazi party here in PWC is offensive to any Jewish person living here. However, you refuse to hear this argument, so I feel like I’m wasting my time. As was said earlier, by your definition it seems anyone who is for the resolution is a Nazi. Pretty narrow minded way of thinking. If you follow the dictionary definition than that means you are saying these people are in favor of exterminating illegal aliens. All they really are trying to do is send them back where they came from before they entered this country illegally. The Nazis were in a large percentage of the cases killing fellow German citizens. Quite a bit of difference, but apparently you just want to keep labeling people Nazis.
I think kgotthardt and greg need to debate..that would be fun..to watch her get OWNED!!
kgotthardt,
Don’t worry about AW. Whenever she cannot find a way to win a debate she questions your use of the English language. She did the same thing to me when we had a debate about Wal Mart.
Anon, when people call other people “vermon” and refer to them as dog food and push through policies to have them targeted and deported, then yes, I would say they are in favor of “extermination” and would do more than write a policy if they thought they could get away with it. The Nazi party began because Hitler promised desperate people the moon. The Nazis didn’t think for themselves. They followed mandates, orders and whims and people DIED because of that. It’s the Nazi attitude we are fighting here. And YES there is a living, real Nazi party still around. Guess what? They don’t necessarily kill people physically. They kill with the Nazi ideal that is still too alive and well.
Are you a Nazi for supporting the resolution? No. But you are part of the problem because the people who WROTE the resolution are from HATE GROUPS. And the resolution is bankrupting us in more way than one.
If you want to get this fixed, then support a new policy,one the people of PWC come up with, not some national lobbying group looking to sharpen its ax in our county.
“At least it is not censored here so everyone can speak for them selves.
I don’t think it is possible for anyone to keep straight faced all the time with such passionate issues.”
Redawn, how can you say this site is not censored, given the way that Emma was banned. You know as well as I, Greg allowed comments (even from the “other side”) to stay even when they went far more over the top than any of those that she made. I have seen no indication of debate on this thread, only mean-spirited people telling me and others to go away…and not very nicely. There’s no discussion of any “passionate issue” here…there’s no “discussion” at all.
I’m very disappointed in my judgment right now, Redawn. I gave you far more credit for open and fair-mindedness than I perhaps should have. That you could join this “Amen choir” and be a party to a site formed specifically for the derision and defamation of is beyond me…why else would they have copied his format and utilized his site name in their own?
Finally, yes the Nazis were racists. But you can’t go the other way and say racists are Nazis! That is what you are doing, and that is what any person who knows what really happened in the Holocaust would find rather offensive – trying to say PWC has a Nazi party, etc. etc. What is happening here doesn’t even begin to come close to what happened in Nazi Germany – not by many orders of magnitude. It just appears to be yet another attempt to promote fear.
AW, I thought you went to bed.
Correction: insert “Greg” (…formed specifically for the derision and defamation of Greg is…)
You only make my point kgotthardt.
AW,
We left the other website when we disagreed with the Amen Choir of Gospel Greg. The problem you have is that you don’t want to contribute with anything here, just prove that this blog is bad. Well, I fell much better here and you are welcome to contribute.
I’ve seen plenty of name calling on this board and even on this thread, so I don’t think Greg has an exclusive there with the name calling. So you don’t have much to stand on there. Heck, you even told me to go back to “your BVBL sludgehole”! So I don’t think you can elevate yourself above any accusations of name calling, since vermon and sludge sound pretty close to me. I don’t recall calling you any names before you decided to resort to some name calling yourself.
Anon, PWC has the KKK, and I am quite convinced there are members of the official Nazi Party. I’m not saying GL is a member, but you should understand that they ARE here.
Racism is a more general term for hatred based on ethnicity. The Nazis were just one extreme of racism. And what we are seeing in this county IS a extreme. We’re not talking about a couple of people using a few derogatory terms. We are looking at people who WANT others to live in fear, to leave, to get harassed because they aren’t like “us.”
I don’t mean to insult anyone, and I don’t use the term “Nazi” lightly. I am using it because it’s historically accurate but in a modern context which can never overshadow the Holocaust but can easily turn into another one if we let it.
If we have learned nothing else from history, we should at least have learned something from the Holocaust–that if we stay silent and allow this kind of hate, destruction like the kind we envision only in hell will be the result. This isn’t drama. This is the legacy we have been left.
BVBL has yet to come up with a solution that is fair and works for EVERYONE so in my estimation, yes, it’s a sludgehole.
“If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.”
AWCheney,
I am fair and open minded. I have NOT changed. I will say that I am exhausted by this whole situation for sure. I do not agree with everyone here or on the other site.
I am here, just like there to LEARN with my open mind. I just know that here I can post and it shows up instantly.
I have come to learn that no matter where you go to post people get lumped together.
The video was actually a parody of all that was being said in the thread to the army aka Trojan man. Kung Fu fighting aka Bruce Li. etc., and only meant in GOOD fun!
Everyone should take a time out and reevaluate themselves. I know I check MYSELF.
Spot on Redawn. Spot on.
I see a lot of promoting of fear on this board – as in the whole silly thing about “getting an army together” and making it sound like there are going to be people marching around with guns or something. And yes, it does indeed seem the term Nazi is thrown around very lightly on this board. But since you seem to continue to think it is fair to label people as Nazis who disagree with you, and call out names (how do you even know I came from BVBL or even looked at that board?) I’m done with this silly debate. Again, to equate what is happening here with the Nazis – it is a huge huge difference, but I’m done debating it. For one thing, the Jews in Germany had been there all along, and the idea wasn’t to move them out of the country but to kill them. But you keep glossing over that part, and if you really think something on that level is going to happen here – well I’m sure you don’t but it just sounds like helping to promote fear and distrust so the resolution will be overturned. But I’m done with this debate, because I see the term Nazi thrown about all the time on this board, and it clearly shows people have no clue about what really went on back then.
Juturna, no offense taken.
Gee, AW, is anyone, anywhere as informed, well-spoken, or fair-minded as you? Go bother James Young…
Redawn, I was bad. I didn’t lighten up. Got any new music for us?
Anon,
Obviously you don’t know who the VCDL is. Listen closely to what is said and then do a little research. Then report back.
“If you want to get this fixed, then support a new policy,one the people of PWC come up with, not some national lobbying group looking to sharpen its ax in our county.”
What “people of PWC,” kgotthardt? Mexicans Without Borders, perhaps? I hardly think that an organization comprised primarily of illegal aliens is representative of the citizens and legal residents of Prince William County. You, perhaps? I hardly consider YOU to be representative of a logical, reasonable human being, much less representative of Prince William County.
So now we’re putting together two different organizations – the VCDL are people who want to carry concealed weapons. They may or may not be pro-resolution. Some of their members could even be on your side of the debate. Is this to bolster this silly argument that there is a Nazi party in PWC. Well, as I said I’m done with this – but just wanted to say you can’t take an entirely separate organization like that, and assume 1) its members are pro-resolution or 2) that somehow all HSM members are VCDL members or vice versa. From that you are going to make a leap of logic that some armed force is being formed that is going to start marching down the streets!
AWCheney,
I put Emma in time out but she’s not following directions very well becuase she’s now posting under Willoughby.
So far, I’ve censored Steve Thomas’ home address and Corey Stewarts childrens school name/location, that’s it.
TH, you left the other website when you stopped participating in reasonable debate (if you recall, I often defended you) and started making personal attacks…against me. I took exception to that…and you couldn’t stand the heat, so you got out of the kitchen.
kgotthardt,
Greg threatened you? That’s the funniest damn thing I ever heard. Let’s see, Greg weighs about a buck twenty-five and he threatened you. That’s a good one.