24 Thoughts to “Anti-Immigrant Sign Attack – Hoax”

  1. Not Me, Bubba
    May 9, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Stupidity is alive and well, and apprantly has holed up in Texas for the time being.

    However, I wouldn’t cite this video from Faux Noise as a poignant commentary on the state of affairs in regards to immigration nationwide…

    It’s no different than when that mother made up the sob story about her husband having been injured in Iraq so her daughter could win Hanna Montana tickets. Bad taste, bad form, no morals – all 3, YES. A commentary on anything important? No…just a-holery prancing about.

  2. park'd
    May 9, 2008 at 10:39 am

    For this one fake it’s easy enough to find 100 real crimes committed by illegal aliens that weren’t fake. Murders, rapes, robberies are committed each and every day by illegal aliens. This girl is a freak and she will be dealt with by law enforcement for her crime, as illegals should be for theirs.

  3. Moon-howler
    May 9, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Park’d,

    My issue with your comment is that despite great protesting on your part, you never seem to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. You also must have real good eye-sight to be able to tell the difference.

  4. TDB
    May 9, 2008 at 11:44 am

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/05/10-year-old-giv.html?csp=34

    Want real?

  5. Not Me, Bubba
    May 9, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    To be fair TDB – unless he is convicted, he isn’t guilty of anything that article states he is accused of…

  6. admin
    May 9, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9601/japan_rape/index.html

    3 US Servicemen admitted & were convicted of gang-raping a 12 year old Japanese girl. So, what’s your point?

  7. Bring it On
    May 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Somebody’s bound to say, well they weren’t even suppose to be here.

    You know it’s their mothers fault, if they had spent more time on their knees and less time on their backs then we wouldn’t have to deal with these jacka$$es in the first place. And I could care less about their ethnicity, nationality, immigration status etc… they are pedophiles which apparently aren’t confined to one particular identifiable group.

  8. park'd
    May 9, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Admin: As bring it on said, we already have enough bad apples of our own. We don’t need Mexico’s or Honduras’ or El Salvador’s scumbags to add to ours.

    MH: my eyes are great thanks. Peace.

  9. admin
    May 9, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Great, how do you tell them apart? Are you suggesting we accept nobody just shut the door and not allow any immigration? Or just not accept those from Mexico, Honduras and El Salvador? What I’m saying is that people don’t walk around with scumbag tatooed to their forehead, although life would be much easier if we did, unfortunately we can not differentiate between scumbags and non-scumbags. Admittedly, I have personally encountered persons that seemed respectable on a personal level then come later to find out that they were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Basically, I don’t believe that there’s a greater percentage of criminals among ‘illegals’ than those in our US citizen population.

  10. park'd
    May 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Admin said, “I don’t believe that there’s a greater percentage of criminals among ‘illegals’ than those in our US citizen population.”

    I never said there were. I do believe I said that we have too many of our own already and don’t need more from other countries. If this country would enforce its borders and have a decent guest worker program then we would know who had scumbag written on their foreheads and make sure that they stayed in their respective countries. A metered guest worker program is a great idea and is needed, as long as it doesn’t take jobs away from Americans who would normally do them. We don’t need immigration overhaul in this country. What we need is border enforcement overhaul which would include a program for registered and checked guest workers. 9 out of 10 of them probably don’t want citizenship anyway because they would lose all of their freebies and have to pay their share of taxes.

  11. kgotthardt
    May 9, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    ” if they had spent more time on their knees and less time on their backs then we wouldn’t have to deal with these jacka$$es in the first place.” Um….this is a little offensive, isn’t it?

  12. Firedancer
    May 9, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    A middle school in Northern Virginia had a lock down situation two weeks ago when a student claimed that a Hispanic man accosted her in the girls’ room. That also turned out to be false.

    The point is that Hispanics have become the bogeymen.

  13. kgotthardt
    May 9, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Yeah, Firedancer! And the REAL bogeyman is GL! (Sorry….I couldn’t help it.)

  14. Moon-howler
    May 9, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    Our immigration laws are so complex and disjointed. Most people just shoot off at the mouth over them without knowing facts. If things were so peachy, we wouldn’t have a broken immigration system. We need to look at ways people come here illegally other than across the border. I am not dismissing the border as a problem, I am just saying it is not the ONLY problem.

    No one on local blogs, other than Mr. Wills, (where is Red Dawn?) ever mentions nationalities that aren’t Latino as causing a problem. How about the asian gang problem has you move inside the beltway? There are definitely illegal asians here? Now we know they didn’t swim the Pacific Ocean? Is this problem a border issue or is it a visa issue?

    Yea, we need immigration reform so people feel they can come here and that there IS a line to get in. Most people don’t.

  15. Red Dawn
    May 9, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    “No one on local blogs, other than Mr. Wills, (where is Red Dawn?) ”

    ROLL CALL, GOTTA LUV BOB! 🙂 I cast my vote, hell I might EVEN write him in fro PREZ ( can you do that? ) 🙂

  16. WhyHereWhyNow
    May 9, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    If you take those two news stories together they about sum up the immigration “issue” that’s been plaguing our country ever since Iraq ceased to be an election issue for President Bush (remember him?).

    Think about it this way. The Fox News story originally went “Hispanics try to Rape White Girl.” The next day, the story goes, “Nevermind.” Half of Texas saw the first story only. Half of Texas saw both, and thus the big divide. They can’t agree on the “issue” because they have two different sets of facts.

    Back to the CNN story on the other thread. Half of Arizona is told that “undocumented immigrants don’t pay taxes and hurt our economy.” The other half of Arizona learns the hard way that indeed undocumented immigrants are a vital part of the economy and a NET ECONOMIC BENEFIT. They can’t agree because each has a different set of facts.

    In Prince William County, both of the two misunderstandings set the stage for the folly that was the Immigration Resolution. In many ways, I can’t blame the Cult Members for showing up with their red stickers and repeating what they learned in Gospel Greg’s church. He lies with such sincerity, you almost want to believe him. And then everyone sitting around you is clapping and cheering. How can you doubt it?

    We thought there was a rise in crime. Woops. Turns out crime has been dropping each of the years during which the Hispanic population increased. Two different sets of facts.

    I blame the Supervisors for not looking into this before they passed the Resolution last July. Yes, it’s true, 6 of them were blindsided. But there’s nothing wrong with saying, “Hold on, give us some time to research this.”

    It’s like leaping off the high dive and THEN asking yourself if that spinning blurry blue you see on your way down is just the bottom of an empty pool.

    I’ve never been so disappointed to be proven right.

  17. Moon-howler
    May 10, 2008 at 12:58 am

    Red Dawn,

    Someone else I know has a write in candidate.

  18. Moon-howler
    May 10, 2008 at 1:07 am

    WHWN said:

    In Prince William County, both of the two misunderstandings set the stage for the folly that was the Immigration Resolution. In many ways, I can’t blame the Cult Members for showing up with their red stickers and repeating what they learned in Gospel Greg’s church. He lies with such sincerity, you almost want to believe him. And then everyone sitting around you is clapping and cheering. How can you doubt it?

    And this is truly the scary part about what has happened in our community. This is not how county policy should be established. It brings a new dimension to railroading.

  19. michael
    May 10, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Admin, those points at 9:52 are very well said. We cannot tell “illegals” from “legals” without the proof of documentation or lack of documentation to be able to clearly determine the difference. This is why it is up to all of us to create a lw that is “neutral”, uphold that law rgardless of your gender, religion, race or ethnic group, and enfoce it with law enforcement and the legal system being the element that determines “illegal” from “legal”. The problem is soo… many of the “pro-Ilegal” crowd want to remove the only tools our society has to determine “illegal” from “legal”, the result is people (like park’d for example) who have to live with the consequences of people breaking the law and getting away with it are fed up and doing what they can to improve their own neighborhoods and remove “any” person, who does not abide by a community standard all by “zoning”, “loitering”, “litter”, and “benefits” laws are violating just because you can’t tell who is entitled to be here and who is not.

    The solution you keep asking for is to not let everyone continue to break the law because we feel sorry for them, because they will continue to break it and the consequences will get worse. Come up with Fair and “NEUTRAL” zoning, fire, litter, loitering, traffic, and “crime” laws, that prevent community decay and social ruin, and simply “enforce them equally on everyone. That IS the solution, but many here do not want that. They want the present situation to continue.

    It it does continue, the communities will eventually resort to conflict (as they have done in so many other parts of the world) to finally solve it.

    Law enforcement is the only just, equitable, and fair answer because it protects all 380 million people the same and without prejudice, bias or ethnic group segregation and destructive racial, gender, religious, and ethnic group political factioning.

  20. michael
    May 10, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Moonhowler at 22:16, a very good point. The law is neutral and requires that we apply it to all races, genders, religions and ethnic groups, equally. This is the essence of the 1960s integration laws, and people today in their effort to promote illegal diversity are promoting illegal “dis-integration, segregation, and cultural separatism. Such thinking includes the “other” groups you mentioned, and I very much support you in that claim to look at everyone the same, not as a cultural group. Whenever I see people not doing this (on the BVBL as well) I call them on their ignorance of that basic legal fact. We will get nowhere if we continue to focus only on one ethnic group, and we will get nowhere if we continue to focus of allowing people here to break the law. WE must take the “neutral” middle ground and simply apply the law as it was passed and voted on by the nation. It was designed fairly to protect all 380 million of us from un-reasonable, uncontrolled, and descructive growth.

    They “illegal aliens” must go home (by personal choice or by force, they must choose), and get in line legally. Then and only then will people have no-reason and no cause to be upset with them.

  21. michael
    May 10, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I am very consistant in this point of view for a reason. We must have a moral and legal compass guiding our decisions and beliefs consistantly and fairly for all, not just one small segment of the population. I think people forget the other 360 million people harmed in this debate, especially the “legal poor” and our teenagers.

  22. El Guapo
    May 10, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Susan Smith didn’t have an agenda against black men. This girl from the beginning was against illegal immigrants. She wasn’t just using them as a scape goat to cover something evil that she had done.

    And it’s not uncommon for anti-immigrant fanatics to to spread lies. In 2005 there was a list of facts [sic] supposedly published by the LA Times. The LA Times wrote a column debunking almost every single one of them. In 2006 there was an email being passed around about a 2006 INS/FBI report. The fact that the INS was reorganized out of existence three years prior didn’t stop people from spreading the list of lies. In 2007 another list of lies was circulated [debunked here: http://davewmills.blogspot.com/2007/12/response-to-anti-immigrant-propaganda.html ]. And in 2008 we have the Rubenstein report that’s already been discredited.

    A string of lies after string of lies. What this girl did was not an isolated incident perpetrated by a misguided girl. It is a common tactic used by anti-immigration fanatics.

  23. Elena
    May 10, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    WhyHereWhyNow, 9. May 2008, 22:36

    You are right on, talk about a lack of credible process in determining the need for a resolution. Even Corey admits that citizens, i.e. Greg, decided that “illegals” were a problems, and Voila, a completely unresearched resolution is passed in spite of concerns by the county exec AND the Chief of Police. Train wreck in putting it mildly! Like I said in the past, I put more effort into researching a paper than the Board regarding the implications of the resolution!

  24. Kenneth Reynolds
    May 10, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Bring it On, 9. May 2008, 13:07

    Somebody’s bound to say, well they weren’t even suppose to be here.

    You know it’s their mothers fault, if they had spent more time on their knees and less time on their backs then we wouldn’t have to deal with these jacka$$es in the first place. And I could care less about their ethnicity, nationality, immigration status etc… they are pedophiles which apparently aren’t confined to one particular identifiable group.

    KENNETH SCREAMED – AND WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TALK ABOUT BEING ON THEIR KNEES….WITH THE SEWER MOUTH YOU HAVE……….YOU KNOW THEY SAY THAT SOME GUYS LIKE YOU ALSO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THEIR KNEES!!

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