156 Thoughts to “Letiecq’s Citizens’ Time”

  1. Mom

    “I doubt that Greg is going to go out and start shooting people”, you’re probably right, I doubt he has the intestinal fortitude but, I don’t doubt that he might foolishly brandish a weapon and get himself shot as a result. “Forest” Greg doesn’t seem to think through cause and effect very well.

  2. I DO think eventually GL will have a psychotic break and do it. The problem is, no one ever thinks people will “actually do it.” This isn’t the first time he’s made overt threats and he gets more and more public with them. That isn’t a sign of mental stability or logic.

    Free speech is not the same thing as threatening people, especially when those people have the capacity and tools to carry out that threat. Heck, if I told you, “Hey, I have a good lawyer and I am going to sue you” wouldn’t you believe me? Of COURSE you would! Why wouldn’t you?

    Unless you knew I can’t afford a good lawyer, you wouldn’t know NOT to believe me.

  3. Mom, GL was in the military. Trust me. They teach you the fortitude.

  4. Mom

    GL was in the National Guard, with all due respect to you weekend warriors (many of whom were active duty), there is often a difference.

  5. Elena

    Anon,
    I think that most people here have been very empathic to your situation in your community. I don’t see in what vein we have been extreme about anything. Are we extreme in believing proper democratic process was thwarted during the initiation of the immigration resolution? Are we extreme for believing that there are real solutions to issues like yours were NOT addressed with a resolution that clearly target one sect of our community? Are we extreme for believing the reports from ADL and SPLC or the FBI(hate crime statistics on the rise against hispanics). Exactly what are we extreme about Anon?

    Furthemore, Greg doesn’t scare me, I actually feel sorry for him, but what does, is some minion sitting in his basement, believing his country is being invaded, and people like me are illegal alien abettors and we need to be stopped. That isn’t a joke. Robert Duecaster/Advocator, constantly writing about how the time for action as come is no joke. Am I quivering in fear? Obviously not, or I wouldn’t still be talking!

    p.s. thanks KG 🙂

  6. anon

    I’m not going to belabor this, but yes there have been many extreme comments on here – including labeling me as aiding a Holocaust-like event, which again as a Jewish person I took extreme offense to (there was a post that basically said anyone supporting the resolution was enabling and abetting that), and other posts that I’m not going to report (name calling, which I never engaged in). Let’s see, I’ve been called racist, helping the Nazis, low class, despicable, a Greg supporter, a “Greg clone”, a BVBL poster, a supporter of vigilantiism, when I am none of those things. Then again, it has really been by a few specific posters, who then I see complain about the name calling on Greg’s site. I’m calling it as I see it, and I see some fairly hypocritcal behavior here. I also do think some of what Greg is doing is baiting, and some people here are just feeding his needs by rising to the bait. Again, I’m no supporter of his, and agree even if some of what he says are jokes, they are despicable. BUT, initially I was told I was aiding a new Holocaust, and as a Jewish person I took extreme offense, and even more offense by being told I had no understanding of the Holocaust! I’m sorry – I do not at all like the parallels drawn of what is happening here to the Holocaust. It is offensive to me personally. So all of the above IS extreme behavior. For one thing, no one can say I’ve ever done any name calling here, but for others – it apparently is acceptable behavior. If a person likes name calling, it is not far of a jump to say they are a bully, and they may be prone to engage in other unacceptable behavior.

    And again, i take exception that you think you can come into this neighborhood, and “outreach” to some of the people here. Maybe some of them, but I see too many of them who take no pride in where they live, and care even less about their neighbors. While most of them may not be illegal aliens, in my opinion the ones who could care less about the neighborhood – if some of the things about the resolution scares them enough to move out of here – so much the better! Sorry, I have done some good walking around the neighborhood the past week or two, and my street is not an exception to the rule as I hoped maybe it was.

    Anyway, I’ve said my piece, and obviously we agree to disagree, and I see it not worthwhile for me to even keep reading this blog. One attempts to have a logical debate, and all I get back is name calling and other things. Certain posters here have a gift for making those who support the resolution in any way being made to feel unwelcome here, with all the needless name calling and attacks. I’ve seen it more than a dozen times in the short time I’ve been on here. Some of these people need to take a deep breath and think what they are writing when they write those kinds of posts. This is why I stopped reading BVBL (and never posted there as I could see it was a lot of extreme stuff) and I’ve concluded things on this board are not much better.

    So as I said, I’m done here, you can go back to your discussion – I’m tired of reading the justifications for some of the stuff posted on here. Soon I won’t care anyway – I’ll be out of this neighborhood sometime between October and December and if it continues its downhill slide, that will be fine with me.

  7. Censored bybvbl

    And again, i take exception that you think you can come into this neighborhood, and “outreach” to some of the people here. Maybe some of them, but I see too many of them who take no pride in where they live, and care even less about their neighbors. While most of them may not be illegal aliens, in my opinion the ones who could care less about the neighborhood – if some of the things about the resolution scares them enough to move out of here – so much the better! Sorry, I have done some good walking around the neighborhood the past week or two, and my street is not an exception to the rule as I hoped maybe it was.

    Anon, everyone has to routinely make assessments of his/her neighborhood from a safety standpoint, an economic standpoint, a comfort standpoint. Sometimes we see which direction a neighborhood is heading easily and sometimes not. Sometimes quick and friendly intervention makes a big positive difference and sometimes not. A homeowner has to routinely balance the scales to determine whether to leave or stay. In townhouse and condo units we often make those decisions to leave more quickly because the we share walls. Neighborhoods decline and I’d venture to say newer (twenty/thirty years or less) neighborhoods have the pontential to decline quickly because the construction is often shoddier and the houses closer. Styles change and neighborhoods lose some of their marketability. Demographics change and people may be scared of that change regardless of how nice their new neighbors are. Where we decide to live is one of the most personal choices we’ll make other than choosing a spouse/companion.

    I agree with you that most, but definitely not all, of the foreclosures around the immediate area (PWC and the cities) were caused by having cheap housing stock and the ease of sub-prime lending. I think the resolution has some effect on our market. Many well-heeled, educated, tolerant people may be put off by the brouhaha that it produced – and Hispanic familes may have felt uncomfortable staying here. PWC was trying to develop an image that would attract higher income families and it managed to shoot itself in the foot this past year.

  8. anon

    Censored – I agree with what you say above. This neighborhood seemed to start to go downhill 3 years ago – at least in my observations. Perhaps at that point something in the way of friendly intervention would have worked, but I’m afraid that now there are too many occupants that seem to not care about it. As you say, things change and this neighborhood is 20 years old now roughly (some parts are older, but where I am was built in 1985 – some older townhouses were built in 1974). This neighborhood was an upper-middle income neighborhood when I moved here in 1985, with many other professionals like myself (coworkers of mine) living here. Unfortunately now it has trended toward lower incomes even though 2 years ago the townhouses were easily selling for $350,000 in this neighborhood. Some of those are actually the ones now in foreclosure.

    I also agree with you that a good percentage of the foreclosures were brought on by the banks and cheap housing stock and not have much to do with the resolution – those would have happened anyway. I’m not saying that there isn’t a percentage due to the resolution, but I suspect less than 25%, and probably even far less than that.

    I will concede that what you say about the unintended effect of the resolution of turning off some well educated tolerant people is probably true, and those people may indeed chose to move out of here. Of course those won’t be foreclosures, but they will put more pressure on the housing market exacerbating the number of houses for sale – which the supply far exceeds the demand.

  9. Red Dawn (team Bob)

    Juturna, Re: your comment on 21. May 2008, 19:29,

    Good giggle and GOOD to see you!

    TH,
    “Give me an address of a laborer center and I will take a camera. I don’t live in the area so i need something that I can find in Google maps”

    One of the 7-11’s address in question 10740 Coverstone Drive, Manassas, VA 20109

  10. Elena

    Anon,
    Clearly my intention is not to make people who have concerns about the resolution feel like racists or nazi’s. My intention is to show that the resolution was not well thought out and many uninteded consequences occured while NOT addressing specific neighborhood issues. An uzi was used as the first line of defense where we should have tried the old fashioned communication outreach paradigm. I too saw my neighborhood change in centerville, but a resolution was not the way to resolve some of the issues in my neighborhood.

  11. Red Dawn (team Bob)

    Anon,

    I know that you where house shopping and seem to have found a neighborhood that you are interested in. I was curious about where you are looking.The other question I have is do you think it is go to be hard to find renters for your house now? ( no agenda and no trick question, just curious)

  12. g.stone

    To get the post you have to check out novatownhallblog, where Joe B who is alarmingly fond of AK-47’s has posted a riddle competition which Greg won on hsi first try proving that mentally disturbed ego-maniacs think alike.

    Joe B, in addition to widely being known as an ego-maniac and a lush, is also the head of Help Save Loudoun and the Honest Business Network there, which has about 5 businesses signed up.

    Just what we need, armed and drunk Help Saves.

    Laura, is that you girlfriend ? Are you now over here hanging with the leftists and old hippies ?
    Valley girl, why yes you are.

    I’ll tell Joe you were bragging about him.

  13. g.stone

    Some of you need a check up from the neck up.

    Obsession and paranoia come to mind.

    Put the bongs down, take off your pajamas, get out of your mothers basement and get a life. Your taking differences of opinion on political and policy matters and building a religion. Stop it ! Real people are laughing at you.

  14. Emma

    met·a·phor [met-uh-fawr] something used, or regarded as being used, to represent something else; emblem; symbol.

    Metaphorically speaking, I don’t think Greg L. is a smoking gun. This obsession with Greg L. is not paranoia; it is a deliberate attempt to distort with selective quotes in order to plant seeds in people’s minds that somehow Greg L. has the potential for physical violence. kgotthardt, rather than give us selected quotes from his email to you, how about posting the entire letter so that we can judge for ourselves whether the context of the letter was truly threatening physical violence to you? Also, was this a recent occurrence? I seem to remember you discussing this a while back.

    Lots of people use military symbolism–i.e. “we are at war” when they are on one side of a particularly controversial issue. Many guys who shoot recreationally also tend to use the language of guns in their speech–it’s a guy thing, I guess–and I don’t find it particularly threatening.

    I’ve said this before, but it bears repeating: I am not a member of HSM, not a Greg “clone” or “minion,” and I think Greg’s a big boy and doesn’t need me or anyone else to defend him. I especially don’t like extremes on either side–liberal Democrats, hardcore Republicans, Atkins dieters or vegetarians (joke alert) because there really are no black-and-white issues out there, IMHO.

    Objectively, this all just seems like a lame effort to create fear and feed paranoia. Isn’t that just what many of you accuse those who are anti-illegal immigration of doing–spreading fear of Hispanics by blaming them for gangs, crime and overrunning neighborhoods? I don’t see how this rehash of how dangerous Greg is adds to the dialogue here, unless you all are just trying to get his attention and provoke him into saying something unfortunate that you can then seize on.

  15. Elena

    welcome g.stone,
    not paranoid and not obsessed, but thanks for sharing you concerns 🙂 would I be obsessed or paranoid if I asked if your first name was Greg.

  16. anon

    Red Dawn – Thanks for asking. I was looking up in Ashburn as it would be closer to work for me, and was looking at townhouse neighborhoods up there as a single family houses were over my budget for anything nice. But my wife really wanted a single family house, so we are ending up out in Gainesville in a new development there (Morris Farm). Anyplace closer to where I work (Reston) was unaffordable to me based on what I can rent this place out for, or right now sell it for, given the current situation. While it is actually a longer commute for me in miles, from a time point of view it doesn’t appear to be due to how much time it takes me to get from I-66 to where I live now.

    As far as worrying about selling/renting – one advantage is they guarantee if you don’t sell your house by closing time they’ll rent it out and guarantee you 12 months rent from the date of closing. They know how hard it is to sell a house in today’s market and do it to coordinate it with closing on a house being built.

    Otherwise, I would be very very nervous about selling in time, as the house could be ready as early as late October and I have a few weeks of fixing up before I’m ready to put it on the market. Also given the collection of furniture and junk sitting on the deck of the house next to me, I’m fairly pessimistic about the ability to sell for a good price.

    While I’d like to walk away from this neighborhood without looking back, unfortunately I may still own here and rent out for a year or two, and when things recover a bit sell. Fortunately, I’m in a relatively good position as this house is nearly paid off as far as the mortgage is concerned.

    Anyway, I’ve spent a lot of time walking around the new neighborhood (which some people have been in there for 2 years now). It is very family oriented and yes, I saw a number of Hispanic families – I don’t have any problems with them as they were all out walking and were a marked difference from what I see in this neighborhood roaming the streets during the daytime (and at night actually) making lots of noise, tossing trash, etc.

    It just seems a lot quieter, peaceful place and I think will be markedly different than where I am now. My wife may have been somewhat scared off townhouses, this being her first experience in one. Anyway, we are ending up with a much bigger house than I ever envisioned buying, but it looks to be a good move, and the prices have been slashed greatly by the builder in that neighborhood and there are offering lots of incentives to make a sale. Hopefully it will all work out well.

  17. Juturna

    G. Stone

    I am real people, use my left hand to write, throw and play tennis. What is your purpose here???? Always glad to see new folks.

  18. Red Dawn (team Bob)

    Anon,
    I can relate to you and share your concerns. We have tossed the idea to do the same thing( move)
    As a life long resident ( left to Fauquier co. for a year and spent 10 yrs in Centreville/Fairfax co only to end up where I NEVER thought I would, LOL: bought my homestead/parents home)
    UNFORTUNATELY, we bought at the wrong time and with no family discount ( different story, not bad family relation, just circumstances)
    I do champ PWC for ALL the good experiences that I have shared here and believe me there have been MORE good than bad.
    I do recognize ( as other people have had and tried to point out to me) that things change. Time moves forward and you have to deal with it. ( i.e mom and pop shops that have come and gone)
    I still look at look at the BIG picture while trying to hold on to what has to let go and I think and have thought this posting on BVBL has some truth

    ” jfk said on 12 May 2008 at 10:34 pm:

    I’ll probably anger some of you by saying this, but I think that the best thing that could happen to some of our neighborhoods in the Manassas/Manassas Park area is redevelopment. We’ll never compete with the Piedmont and Dominion Valley properties to our west if all we can offer are 50-year old three bedroom/one bath homes. The location in Manassas is great, but many of the houses just are not attractive anymore. The reason illegals were able to get these homes was white flight out of these older smaller homes to larger ones out west.”
    http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/12/prince-william-real-estate-market-jumps-again/
    I think you move support this and what we were contemplating. ( can’t, we HAVE to ride the wave)

    There is a market for everything, there is always money to be made in a downturn ( i.e.
    Robert T. Kiyosaki or Donald Trump, etc)AND I see that the Manassas area will still be sandwiched in the middle.

    Maybe redevelopment is the new idea to toss around.

  19. Red Dawn (team Bob)

    To clarify my comments start again AFTER the link posted (as I am a typo goof)

  20. Red Dawn (team Bob)

    Juturna,

    Are you a lefty or ambidextrous? I am a left too and if your not and can do so with yourleft hand…wow, you go girl! LOL 🙂

  21. es_la_ley

    g.stone , 22. May 2008, 17:59

    Put the bongs down, take off your pajamas, get out of your mothers basement and…

    Okay, the visualization was just a bit much!

    🙂

  22. YOO HOO

    G.Stone,

    I think this video sums up the best argument of all sides, LOL

    CAUTION: CUSS WORD can be offensive 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLlol19iuoU

    Posted by Red Dawn ( I am having trouble every wich way trying to post links/videos)

  23. Red Dawn

    es_la_ley,

    AND FUNNY as all get out….

  24. Do the Right Thing

    Anon,

    Of course, no one has a crystal ball, but I’d be willing to bet the townhouse will be worth less in a year or two than it is now. We are only about 1 year into the RE downturn and they usually last 3-5 years. With all the inventory that needs to be cleared out of this county, I really think prices will decline further before they go back up again. Hopefully you can afford to hang onto it until prices recover. I bought a place in 1990 that declined in value over the next 8 years and we rented it out when we were ready to move up because we would have had to bring $25K to the table to sell it. It didn’t recover to it’s 1990 price until 2000 and I sold it in 2002, but for not very much profit…maybe 15K. Had I hung onto it for another 2-3 years, I could have sold it for $150K profit, but as I said, there is no crystal ball…I never would have dreamed I could have ever gotten that much for it!

  25. Red Dawn

    Do the right Thing,

    You are so right saying there is no crystal ball. Here is the OTHER kicker, GAS prices!!??????
    I heard the arguments yesterday on the radio while working and awoke with my TV on to ” they say gas prices could reach the $11 to $12 mark.

    There are MORE uncertain market times ahead as we are BREAKING records across the board.( all markets)

    I was just over at BVBL ( when I was warned not too, hell, I am everywhere….looking and researching) and people want to talk about the embarrassment of growing corn and roosters roaming…ummmm ( no excuses for ILLEGAL immigration as that stereo type goes hand and hand) these are dire times and WE all may have to bunk, garden and carpool together. ( on an ironic note, Manassas was considered ” the country for weekend drives/weekend getaway and even MY property had a huge garden and my brother and I sold veggies)

  26. es_la_ley

    Red Dawn (team Bob), 22. May 2008, 19:40:

    …I am a left too…

    You could have fun with that. Tell folks you’re sinistral, or you suffer from sinistrality. It simply means you’re left-handed, but chances are they won’t know. 🙂

  27. Red Dawn

    es_la_ley,

    That sound SCARY like “sinister ” …oh and your RIGHT ( no pun) I will have fun with that one. LOL ( knew there was something in common, other that even though we have never met, you are a good person…I go by gut 🙂 )

  28. anon

    Do The Right Thing – you may indeed be right that it will be a long time for real estate prices to recover here. Well, I can afford to hold onto it and rent it, as having bought it in 1985 my mortgage is very low and just about paid off. I’ve already done the math and found out what rentals are going for around here, and if I can get an average rental price for the next few years even, I can afford the new mortgage. Eventually though, as soon as prices recover whenever they do, I just want to sell and be out of here completely. I also don’t really like the idea of renting and having to find someone good to rent to, who won’t destroy my house, etc. I’m not too thrilled with becoming a landlord, let’s put it that way – but I probably have no other choice. I could sell at these ridiculously low prices and still be making a profit over what I paid back in 1985 obviously, but it seems really low – as I’ve looked at what all the houses for sale (both non-foreclosure and foreclosure) in my neighborhood are going for. They are actually more than $75K below the real estate assessment that came in recently for my property taxes this year! And that assessment had dropped by 20% ($70,000) from last year’s assessment! So to be selling for $150K or more below last year’s assessment is just ridiculous. Actually if I could sell it at this year’s assessment it would be fine, but $75K or even a little more below it, not so fine!

    Anyway, that’s my thoughts on it, and as I said you may be right – I may be renting this place out for the next 5 years, but I hope not, as really want to get out of this neighborhood completely – it’s not to me a great place to own property in, even if I’m not actually living there anymore.

  29. anon

    Red Dawn – you are right about gas prices, the only direction they are going is up, that is for sure. How much – I doubt anyone can say. Last year when oil hit $70/gallon everyone thought that was crazy – that was the good old days as now it broke $130/gallon.

    I may be a bit insane in lengthening my commute to Reston, but I drive a hybrid (a Prius) so that helps a lot. Actually, I use less than a gallon a day for my commute round trip, and even on the new commute will use just about a gallon a day assuming my miles per gallon is about the same as my current commute, which I think it will be. Just the same, I don’t enjoy filling up at the gas pump, anymore than anyone else does.

  30. Red Dawn

    anon, 22,

    I wish you the best, I really do. I see that you have done your homework and are in the position to be able to move forward. I could be jealous ( just a LITTLE bit) but understand that good things happen to those who wait. I am taking your comments and commitment ( as you have explained how you tried and tried) as hope for us in the future. 🙂

    Hell, back in 1985, when you bought I was rocking out and screaming up and down rt 234 ( mall side) in my 1970 Chevy Nova ( that I bought from a boyfriend who use to drag race it at Old Dominion Speed way) And I mean screaming up the road, back in the day when you could go as SLOWWW as 45 MPH but be at Bull Run Mtn in 10 min.s:)
    NOW it takes me 1/2 hr to go ( lets say a land mark) the Hospital to 66. ICK

    Well, you will be in the county and even if NOT don’t stop blogging. There is too much generalization out there and I think you are aware 🙂

  31. anon

    OK, thanks Red Dawn. While I bought this townhouse in 1985, I moved down here to Manassas in 1981 (from New Jersey) and can remember what a difference Rt 234 was (as well as Rt. 28 and everywhere else). A whole lot less traffic lights between Manassas and I-66 on both of those roads. For that matter Centreville was more or less non-existent 0 there wasn’t much to the intersection of Rt. 28 & 29. Those were the good old days when you could get around town and it wouldn’t take 15 minutes to drive 3 miles, even on the weekend. One thing I hate is how long it takes me to get from I-66 to my townhouse on the way home from work – so I won’t be missing that part of my commute, that’s for sure!

  32. Censored bybvbl

    Oh yeah, 1981. The night skies were still dark enough that I had to take a flashlight when I walked my dog.

  33. Red Dawn

    anon, 22,

    🙂 Disclaimer to ” screaming up the roads” I was a stupid teenie bopper.
    Anyhow, my point is I have been here as other commenter’s such as yourself to see these changes and I take all those “learning experiences and good memories” and move forward.

    I am ( by default, as some may say) a problem solver. I try to plan ahead ( which is what can get me in trouble…I want ANSWERS NOW damn it, lol…but by doing so has saved me)
    I do admit, I think to much and wish I could be more relaxed in that aspect.
    I thought about a car like you own and it sounds like it makes sense and affordable BUT I am sure other people are thinking like that and then the damn electric bill shoot up?
    ( I have only bought one BRAND new car as I have learned and struggle with the idea that it depreciates)

    I don’t know, it would make sense that it would be the HOT ticket item right now, but is would it be the right decision to buy one as I am sure that there are not many used ones for sale”…lol, I need to put a spoke in my own mouse cage as it keeps squeeking but I can’t because I really y do believe there are solutions to every problem and it doesn’t hurt to ask. 🙂

  34. Red Dawn

    What I really am trying to say is “I don’t want to be a big kid now’ ( toys r us) LOL

  35. “the embarrassment of growing corn and roosters roaming” Hey! Fresh corn is AWESOME! And roosters….damn. I’d love to have one of those or at least a couple of chickens. Stupid townhouse rules….

  36. Red Dawn

    K,
    Deepwood Vetranarian: 7300 Ordway Road. Centreville, VA 20121. 703-631-9133 .

    Even though the address is Centreville, it is right across the bridge headed toward Fairfax, down from Yorkshire Ele.

    Is selling FRESH eggs at $2 a dozen ( found that out as I am having k-9 emergencies)

  37. Censored bybvbl

    Red Dawn, my sister used a Deepwood Veterinary Clinic located in her subdivision off Union Mill Road. I wonder if its the same one or related. Either the vet clinic had a peacock or there was one in the neighborhood. My sister heard it and occasionally saw it. The vet knew about it.

    Ha ha. I guess a peacock’s screech is more unsettling than a cock’s crow.

  38. I have been doing some reflecting about the Corey-Loves-Greggy Chronicles.

    There have always been lunatic demagogues out there. There always will be. We can condemn the Gospel Greg’s of the world over and over again, and we should.

    But it’s up to the PUBLIC OFFICIALS, our public servants who take an oath of office, to steer clear of these types, and not allow them to corrupt their offices and our democracy.

    Greg would never have been able to do the damage he has done to this county without the Chairman’s power at his disposal. But… if Corey had wanted to find a different lunatic to stir up the hate for his reelection, there were plenty of others to be found.

    A politician who is willing to get into bed with a lunatic demagogue IS MANY TIMES MORE RARE than a lunatic demagogue. Therefore, Corey Stewart is more dangerous. Corey Stewart is the biggest threat. It is Corey Stewart who must go.

  39. Red Dawn

    Censored bybvbl,

    It is the same one. It was in Clifton BEFORE the days of the subdivision off of Union Mill ( Rocky Run) It was back in the DEEP woods, hence the name. LOL we brought animals there as far back as I can remember and it was very STRANGE that the subdivision was built and it remained for sometime. Any how, they moved and it was very, very impressive 🙂
    I just wished NOW that I would have taken my baby there like ALL our other pets instead of somewhere else ( nameless, not slinging) but I believe would have saved her life….she is still here, just can’t afford the bills. I would love to stick a jug at the local stores to help her but hate to ask for anything and times of the essence anyway 🙁

  40. Moon-howler

    Is there a video of Bob Wills vs Corey on youtube?

    I still feel Corey’s behavior was inexcusable, in light of some of the other things that have been said during citizen’s time. Is he just out of control now or what?

  41. g.stone

    Elena: No, yes I am a Greg.

  42. Well, well, well, our old buddy Laura Valle is back online with yet another new handle. How dare you suggest I have a fondness for cabernet or firearms, Laura!

  43. anon

    A few comments:

    Red Dawn – you may misunderstand how hybrid cars work. Well, there are too kinds. But the Prius and most others, you do not plug it in to the electric outlet. It has a battery that charges while you are driving (by using braking to charge the battery) and there is no need to plug in the car. It generates its own electricity. There are some “plug-in” hybrids that would require you to plug them into the the electric outlet – but as far as I know none are available to the average consumer.

    And yes, I remember you could see lots of stars at night from my apartment complex off of Godwin Drive just past where it intersects with Sudley Road, which was where I lived from 1981 – 1985 before buying my townhouse. Actually where my apartment complex was (or still is) there was not much else around there save for IBM where I worked (and that’s the only reason I ended up in Manassas was because I moved down here to work for IBM).

    In regards to Deepwood Vet Clinic – I use a different vet for my dog, but I pass by there all the time on my commute to work – it is indeed on Old Centreville Rd right after you go across Bull Run from Prince William County (just on the other side of the county line). It looks nice from the outside, I observed it being built. Don’t know anything else about it though. It is indeed on a farm type of property anyway.

  44. anon

    Red Dawn – and sorry to hear about your k-9 emergencies. I’ve been there/done that with my last dog who lived to be 16 years old. I know what that’s like – can definitely relate. Just hope the local vet can handle it and they don’t refer you to the animal hospital in Vienna – that’s where the BIG vet bills hit. Fortunately my dog was very healthy right up untli the end, but that produced a little over $4000 worth of bills at the very end, not to mention of course it was not a happy experience, even though given my dog’s age I knew it was coming – but my wife really was not very well prepared for it (which in part was my fault for not doing a better job of telling her about how old the dog was – even though she had really been in very good health until the last month or two of her life). Anyway, hope you are not in that particular situation, but any emergency vet bills can be expensive, that’s for sure!

  45. anon

    Censored by BVBL – nothing is more strange sounding than a peacock. I’ve seen and heard them several times in different places I’ve been in my travels. The first time I ever encountered one (actually a pair of them) I heard them before I saw them and had no idea what that sound was. Ithought someone or some animal was in some kind of awful pain! I’ll take a crow over a peacock any day. They may look pretty, but they sure sound awful!

  46. Censored bybvbl

    Anon, I’m sure I heard peacocks as a child but really didn’t remember their call. Once a co-worker and I were busy about our business doing a field study when this shrill call rang out. It sure got our attention and then we spotted a peacock up on a second story window ledge admiring its reflection in the window.

  47. Red Dawn

    anon 23,
    Thanks for the 411 on the car, actually I think that is pretty cool about the battery recharging itself as you break.

    Deepwood is very nice and spacious inside. I was impressed. Anyhow thanks for the doggie wishes. She is only 6 and we went through trouble back in the Fall to the tune of 4k ( too ) and I paid it down to 1300 and BOOM, right back up to 2k since last Thurdsay and that was with me paying $350 at ONE visit out of several visits since.
    Any how, you cannot tell she is sick, she is happy, eating, etc.. it just turns out that we should have gone somewhere else instead of racking up the bills while blood test were not being read right and other testing could have been done. I could have taken that money and went to the specialist as recommended NOW by Deepwood.
    Anyway, I recomend pet insurance!!!!! We have learned my lesson.

    Happy Memeorial Weekend 🙂

  48. Red Dawn

    Anon,

    OMG, want a good giggle? ( I am such an airhead sometimes,lol ) I thought you were going by the moniker anon 23 and I thought to myself didn’t he go by anon 22 YESTERDAY?
    UMMMM, I get it now, it is the date…good greif. See, I can laugh at myself, I do it a lot.

  49. anon

    Red Dawn, I know – I need to pick something else other than anon, but I’ve been lazy and I’m not creative when it comes to things like that. However, given my situation, maybe I should call myself “Leaving Manassas”!! I didn’t realize it when you referred to me as “Anon 22” – I just thought it was a typo on your part (nothing against you – I make tons of typos including some in my posts above)!

    I was just chatting with a neighbor 2 doors down about the police activity here last Friday night (the other side of my townhouse from where she lives). She was curious what I knew about it so I filled her in. She filled me in on something I didn’t know about – the playground area here was heavily vandalized and spray painted with MS13 gang markings 2 weeks ago. It will all have to be replaced, and of course we’ll pay for it in HOA fees! Just lovely. I told her we’re moving out of here, and she said she won’t be far behind us. She’s also been a longtime resident of the neighborhood, and is fed up with what she sees. So it isn’t just me. She said in fact when I’m away, she sees my wife out there with our dog after dark, and tells her she doesn’t think it is safe to be doing that, and I totally agree. So it isn’t just me who has these feelings about the neighborhood.

    It convinces me even more that I’m doing the right thing getting out of here. As she said, this used to be a quiet neighborhood – she noticed it start changing 4 years ago, which sounds about right – I was saying 3 years, but probably the signs were there 4 years ago.

    I’ll have to take a walk to the playground, which I don’t go by since I don’t have any children, just to view the wonderful damage. It sounds real nice what they did.

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