It is time now, time to move towards community solutions for Prince William County. I have said this before, we will not fix the immigration reform debate from a local standpoint. There are many diverse views on illegal immigration AND immigration, but at some point, we have to come together and find what will work in our own communities, our own neighborhoods. Let’s use this thread to talk about community solutions, ones that WE can implement here, in Prince William County, solutions that will unite us as opposed to divide us. Part of the solution must involve the Latino community, so I hope that people will come up with some innovative ideas. Please, I urge everyone, leave the name calling behind and instead, focus on positive solutions. Some of the issues that need to be addressed are day laborer sites and a more dignified location for people to look for work, overcrowding issues, language barriers, community healing, immigration education, and a host of other issues that need to be addressed. I know I haven’t named them all, so please, feel free to add to the issues and solutions within the thread. I am hoping this will foster some great dialogue and bring us out of a “cyber world” and into “real life” idea implementation!
From Cindy B on a previous thread:
If you want to do more than just debate, take part in a webinar being hosted by the Center for Voter Deliberation of No Va (www.cvdnva.org) on July 9 from 6:30 to 7:30 pm.
This fall the Center plans to convene one or two pilot circles, of up to twenty people each, for an afternoon on one or more Saturdays in October. The goal for the pilot circle(s) will be to attract a diverse group of Prince William County participants, i.e., to include people who have concerns about the problems of immigration from the immigrant and non-immigrant sides, and who seek a way to discuss and do something about those problems.
So either register for the webinar if you’d like to be in on the planning, or go to the website to leave an e-mail that you’d like to be in the pilot study circles in the fall. The more diverse the viewpoints, the more valuable the study circles will be.
Censored is KG’s talking head…..
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Just cause, it’s pasted above but I guess you’re too blind to see it, contrarian troll.
Emma,
I am wondering why you are leaving? I briefly re-read the exchanges you had with Leila and WHWN. You were clearly in a vigorous debate, but that is what is so great about this site. You were challenged on your logic, that is fair Emma. Certainly, in my explanation to you regarding my response to you, I was not belittling. If you choose to leave, that is certainly up to you. You have a different world view than me, and many others that post here. At least here you are challenged on your point of view and logic, that is alot more than I can say for other sites.
Not sure that KG needs a talking head! So far KG is losing credibility fast as far as I’m concerned, since she seems to be changing her story. It seems to be clear that she was referring to blog posts, in her original post – but now claims to be referring to private e-mails she’s received. Which is it? If it is private e-mails than her original post about cut/pasting and inadvetently including non-hate posts doesn’t make much sense, does it?
Rick, finally we agree. The laws on loitering should apply to everyone–HSM members and daylaborer alike. Why is one loitering and the other not? Surely the red circle doesn’t offer up an aura of protection now does it?
LB,
Why don’t you chillax yourself? Never mind, don’t bother to answer you posts are of no interest to most. Go to bvbl it’s better suited for your mentality.
So, I just looked on KG’s blog and don’t see any hate mail that she has posted in the comments section.
Because Observer, this is a “hush” tactic…another nit witt idea stirred up by the infamous KG and her fellow Got-bot Censored and yes the tone has now changed then what they represented earlier.. It wouldnt surprise me if the 2 of them didnt create the threats under anonymous names to each other…Desperate people have been known to do desperate things..
I would of looovvveeddd to been a fly on the wall at the station after these “alleged” crime posts were reported to the police, Can you imagine…
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“kgotthardt, 26. June 2008, 11:06
Slowpoke, remind me to let you die a slow, miserable death the next time you violate civil law. ” My original post had the word IRONY next to it. Perhaps you should not edit my postings.
I don’t care if I lose credibility with trolls.
Just Cause – looks like KG finally shows her true colors when at first she talks about how she cut/pastes posts and inadvertently includes “sane” ones, and then in the next breath she says no, she meant e-mails being sent to her. Interesting. It doesn’t help her credibility, that’s for sure. I wonder what the police thought when they were handed these inadvertently included “sane” posts (oops, I mean e-mails)?
Doesn’t matter KG – still a threat. And where are those pesky hate e-mails you been getting? Just in your imagination?
Observer and JC – the police probably filed in the circular file, if you know what I mean 😉
KG goes back to labeling people she doesn’t agree with as trolls. Similar to her previous attempts to label them as Nazis, Greg clones, etc. Interesting, since she protests so loudly when someone uses “illegal aliens” as a label. Another sign of a true hypocrite. She is losing credibility with more than just the “trolls”.
Oh, I better watch out, she might report this to the police as yet another one of those “hate posts”.
kgotthardt, 9. July 2008, 13:07 – LMBO said the one troll to the OTHER!
Censored- WE the people are over your CLOAK and DAGGER, Please CUT and PASTE those criminal emails..er…Posts….er……What ever they are again so we Dim bulbs can see for ourselfs BUT please dont forget the link from where they are posted…
Info Only- I SAID CHILLAX!!! Not LB….
KG – you are buying into those that troll here looking for a fight for the sole purpose of trying to make THE OTHER look less than hideous. Don’t let it get to you. You are working against yourself and other folks here.
They are easy spot. While they won’t be blocked, which is, one of their goals, we need to just skip over them. 🙂
Thats Ok Observer, Attach this readme link to your posts…Its a bloggers disclaimer. AS long as you reference it, There aint a thing that can be done..
KG- You might want to read it, It also states on this disclaimer that if you find posts that are offensive, abusive..blah blah the correct action taken should be to LOG OFF or CLOSE YOUR Browser!
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“KG – you are buying into those that troll here looking for a fight for the sole purpose of trying to make THE OTHER look less than hideous.”
Uh, no – we just looking for her to back up her statements, which she can’t seem to do –
Thanks, Juturna! My wanting to explain my writing sometimes gets the best of me, not comments from trolls. I guess I just don’t UNDERSTAND why someone would want to waste time being a troll. I really don’t get it.
JUTUR
I have been here far to long to be considered a passing by “troll”..I have beliefs and opinions like everyone else here, The difference HERE is that if you Disagree you are labeled a troll, If you make a point thats valid, your then labeled a Nazi..If you reference illegal activity you are provoking Genocide, if you challenge a persons word, then you are the KKK, If you ask for Proof on accusations, your a dim bulb…
and last but not least, when you HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO SAY, you recommended SILENCE….
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I guess I don’t understand why someone who can’t back up her comments resorts to labeling someone who asks her to back them up as a troll. Then again labels are her favorite thing – anyone she disagrees with gets a label, and her best hope is that they get off this blog so she can just have people she agrees with on here.
This is worse than teaching remedial reading. The hate speech spoken about by Censored was in the Washington Post. Laugh all you want, but comments made to a newspaper either by snail mail, phone or a blog are taken seriously and can bring the police to your door.
Would some of you be surprised to learn that students can be expelled for sending threatening email to a teacher or administrator or making a threat against the school (such as a bomb) or another student? Anything written in cyberspace leaves much more of an electronic footprint than if it was done by other methods.
Since you don’t know the content of the email and comments left for kgottardt, I wouldn’t comment. Just a word to the wise: Comparisons in style (or lack thereof) are being made as you speak. Most blog owners don’t wait for a subpoena. If the cops ask, they sing. Most…not all. Same with web hosts.
Time for the laughing to be over and to improve those reading comprehension skills.
You wish- She will never back up that statement just like she wouldnt accept my Challenge yesterday…and they have nerve to call people TROLLS…
The 7-11s should WORK TOGETHER with the illegal aliens. You know, tie-in promotions and so forth. Have a ditch dug, get a free 2-Liter bottle of Pepsi. With every 3 roofing jobs, you get a free pizza. Stuff like that. And of course with 5% of the profit sent to Mexico as remittances, to prop up the status quo over there.
You’re right, JC – she’s never backed up anything that she says. Shouldn’t have expected anything else from her other than the hiding and name calling.
Just Cause – you hit the nail on the head about how KG likes to label anyone she disagrees with as something. Her new label is troll. Before it was Nazi, a KKK member, they were enabling genoicide, or they were a Greg supporter. We’ve seen it time and time again.
Here’s a fact KG:
Just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t automatically make them any of those things. Show me one person who’s regularly disagreed with you on this blog that you haven’t applied some incorrect label to. I’m sure you’ll have a hard time proving that one!
Jedi-
Can you please provide the LINK to that article……..
Rick, that 7-11/Illegal promotion is a great idea! That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time.
Yoda –
We get this – “Laugh all you want, but comments made to a newspaper either by snail mail, phone or a blog are taken seriously and can bring the police to your door.”
What we are saying is that KG started by saying that she sent hate posts to the police.
When we asked her to back it up and show us where these “hate posts” were, she couldn’t. Then they were supposedly posted on her blog. Again – after checking her blog, there is nothing posted by anyone other than KG and Citizen Tom.
These weren’t comments made to a newspaper – they were supposedly made to KG on her blog, but she can’t show that they actually exist!
Well, she probably deleted them.
JC
……..and when you are silent is means you have nothing to say. You set that up beautifully!! Don’t misunderstand reasons for silence. It’s a powerful tool. And yes, you are an oldie but goodie.
KG – and there are people that are mean for the sake of being mean and I don’t get them. There are simply people that we don’t get along with. Doesn’t mean anything about either.
You Wish — It COULD be POSSIBLE that if you file a report or are in the process of an ongoing investigation, you COULD be asked not to disclose the details. I’ve heard that happens.
JUTU- Set what up beautifully, That I am calling KG out and your only defense is Silence?
Usually when a person is silent, it is just that…they either have nothing to say or want to say nothing ( But in this case, when you have no facts to back a statement, just be still and be silent and hope the subject changes)
No one is being any MEANER than the Next person here and thank you for your psychology 101 and if that was ALLL it took to hush KG up… I could of counseled her free of charge ALOOONNNNGGGG time ago!
Just wondering what the context was that made her think it was hate speech. Was it a fat broad comment? If that’s what she considers hate speech, she should go back and read up on what the courts consider hate speech.
Juturna, 9. July 2008, 13:37
You Wish — It COULD be POSSIBLE that if you file a report or are in the process of an ongoing investigation, you COULD be asked not to disclose the details. I’ve heard that happens.
THEN WHY MENTION IT AT ALL!!!!! ECSPECIALLY IN CYBERSPACE!! AND YOU SET THAT UP BEAUTIFULLY…
CAREFUL LADIES..YOUR DIGGING DEEPER AND DEEPER AND DEEPER…
Glad to give you my line to use.
She can mention it, ususally it’s the details that are not to be released.
Have a wonderful afternoon. 🙂
Just Cause – excellent point, if she wasn’t allowed to talk about it because it was under investigation, then why mention it at all?
You Wish – if it was the comment that you referred to (fat broads) then KG has made far more harsher comments about people referring to them as Nazis, KKK members, etc. Interesting!
Juturna- Give yourself a pat on the back…you are wise and thank you for allowing me to use your line…
LMAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh my goodness, never have I ever seen such back peddling, word alterations and flip spins on scenerios like I have seen today.
OOOPS and Curious minds want to know..Wheres that picture of Corey Stewart hanging out at the 7-11 participating with the HSM’s…Someone was suppose to post it..I cant find it..Please provide that link as well…
Just Cause – they still are working on it in Photoshop – it’s taking a long time to make it look authentic enough so no one will question it once it gets posted!
Learn to make proper contractions. YOUR is possessive. YOU ARE forms the contraction YOU’RE.
The English lesson is over. Raiders should know better.
Master Yoda may be old but he is not a lady.
Master Jedi-
Learn ta make proper contractions. YOUR iz possessive.
YOU ARE forms da contraction YOU’RE.
The English lesson iz over. Raiders should know bettah.
Brace yourself foo’!
sho ’nuff!
He who laughs loudest laughs last.
There stands Just like a stone wall. Rally around the cause.
or something like that…..
Sorry Thomas Jonathan and Barnard Elliot to take such Jedi liberties.
A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack because
a Jedi’s strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.”
On to greater challenges….I grow weary with such dull students. Back to Dagobah for a much needed nap and to replenish the force for more powerful opponents.
JC sure sounds like oops on the dark paged blog.
And a special oops at that…
Censored and information only, a VERY special oops.
I am surprised some folks don’t get torn apart, with a foot in each blog domain, just posting away at both. I am glad I am not paying their salary. Have you seen those little mirrors people put on their monitor so they can see their boss coming down the hall?
And those who are working for themselves…business must not be so good.
Ummm. So much trolling. So little time (er… is that too much time?)
With all these trolls. Please, where is Billy Goat’s Gruff?
Ooops! said on 9 Jul 2008 at 12:12 pm:
Was this thread closed down for awhile?? Seems that was the TOPIC on the wild side this AM…..
Oops..She did it again. The first thread still is closed for comment. Looks like you told a little white lie on the dark paged blog. Just Cause I thought you’d like to have someone point out your MISINFORMATION!!
FYI-this was just copied from there.
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