Apparently, John McCain has selected Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska as his Vice Presidential running mate.
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Than that’s a valid comment.
But to call her insulting personal names or as has been done in this blog is beneath it.
THAT was my point.
I don’t think Censored has attacked Palin personally. I think she has attacked her politics. When you are now running for VP of the United States, attacking ones politics is fair game. I don’t know enough about her to attack her personally and I doubt if Censored does either.
Like Elena and Censored, I am pro-choice and pro-science. I don’t need to go any futher than that. If I need a third strike, drilling issues will surface in the next few days and perhaps then I can speak to those issues.
I simply do not buy that women out there want to vote for a woman so badly that they will switch from Hillary to Sarah. That just does not compute. Censored, I am still laughing at Dan Quayle with a pony tail.
Lucky Duck, I usually agree with you but I have to respectfully disagree on this one.
Moon-howler, I can’t claim “Dan Quayle in a ponytail” since it came from a WaPo respondent in the article about Palin’s VP slot. I think that’s the closest I’ve come to a personal insult. I’d like for someone to prove me wrong by showing how she brings more substance to the position than Dan Quayle did. At least Indiana had a larger population than Alaska. (I equate Alaska with Ted Stevens and that’s not good.)
– AOL survey states that only 3% of Americans knew “something about Gov. Palin
before today” – sure that will change, for good or bad, in the next week.
– Article in the Juneau Empire today that Chuck and Sally Heath only learned
of their daughter’s selection to be the GOP VP choice “when high water kept the
Heath’s from reaching their gold mine on Gunsight Mountain which they use
as a camp to hunt caribou.” They apparently then drove back into cell phone range.
Hi MH….although the “pony tail” remark was no hers originally, Censored threw it out there…that is not attacking politics, that’s a personal remark. As was another poster who called her a “hockey Jocky”, “failin Palin” etc..personal attacks..not a record debate. Her politics are fair game, the insults of a personal nature are not.
For the record, I am pro choice…but for me that is not a single deciding issue. I am also pro science – stem cell research etc.
Poor Richard,
That sure brings a rustic touch to things 😉 Why do people hunt caribou? Do they eat it?
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Let’s see what NOW has to say about all this wimmin VP stuff.
Well, that’s one way to look at it.
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Someone suggested we look at the Hillary website because droves of women were headed the direction of Sarah. Not so. I see not mention of that. Perhaps that person making those allegations can put up a link?
Experience:
Obama – 3 years in Senate, ( 2 years of that campaining), so really only 1 year.
Palin – 2 years Governer of a state. (an actual leader)
Dime
Lucky Duck, I’d agrue that “Dan Quayle with a ponytail” could be a legitimate political argument. It’s the same as “Prez Lite”. Only this time it’s a female candidate – thus the ponytail. (We women don’t find ponytails offense – they’re darn handy in the heat of summer or during a workout. Haha.) It’s the lack credentials on the national stage or as an Admin. of a large state or a state which has faced and solved some difficult problems – or even a swing state – that makes her appear to be lacking. And what does appear out there is the firing of the public safety commissioner.
Dan Quayle conjures up a particular image which might be very fitting.
Lucky Ducky, definitely yes on stem cell research. The potential to congtrol so many different diseases is there. I still remember that cute Ron Reagan at the Democratic Convention 4 years ago!
I have a real problem when people try to turn their personal belief system into a science. I use that as a litmus test for how a person feels about many other issues important to me. If I hear that a person wants creationism tuaght as science, I can generally tell how they feel about 100 other issues. (and I do not vote for them)
I laughed about Dan Quayle with a pony tail. It hit me like reading about Barney the purple dinosaur. Someone once said he looked like a newt with dentures.
All kidding aside, I don’t support religious right political candidates. One organization I always make sure gets a donation is -Americans United (for Seperation of Church and State-.) I have very dear friends who are very religious. However, they aren’t trying to make their beliefs public policy.
Dime,
How do you pronounce your name? Would that be dee May? or dym as in 10 cents?
Do you really think it matters about experience? I think it might actually be a draw-back. How did experience help Bush? What helped him was belonging to the Bush family–otherwise after 8 years he might still be looking for the White House.
Acting as a one-issue voter is VERY dangerous. We might not like the total package we get in either of these candidates, but if we decide based on only one policy they are putting out there, we’re doomed to be more divided. Just my not-as-politically/party-savvy-as other- people-two-cents.
Kgottardt,
There are some real code words out there that give you quite a bit of data. I am not a single issue voter but there are some trigger points out there that tell me lots more information that meet the eye.
A little about the environment issues:
Alaska vs the Feds
Sarah Palin sued the feds to be able to remove polar bears from the threatened species (ESA) list so Alaska can drill for oil on federal land.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKwZNwdowa4&feature=related
MH, That ain’t good!!!!!! (About the Polar Bears, I mean.)
Want to list some of those code words for us? 🙂
One of the more insincere moments of this election.
That and all the feigned bewilderment about wasting Hilary’s talent.
Wow, thanks for that tidbit MH, I knew I had reason to be concerned. I vote candidate, not gender, not race, but candidate. She is NOT my kind of change that I am looking for!
Just heard from Bullwinkle the Moose and Rocky J Squirrel. Seems they will not be supporting the McCain/Palin ticket.
Yes, Elena. I heard the same thing today that Ms. Palin has asked that the Polar Bear be removed from the endangered species list so that oil can be drilled for on federal park land. Although, I think there is a way to drill for oil in Alaska and preserve the environment, I do not think her approach is the right way to go.
Moonhowler,
Dym, 10
Experience is a big part of any job or leader. I feel Obama is not in touch with real people. Has he actually said what the changes will be? I think not. As for President’ Bush’s experience, well at least he did something and not ordered another study or more useless talks. I remember his approval rating very high right after his and congress’ actions on in the Mid East. By the way, our economy started its donward dive whent the Dems took control of congress. Hmmmmmm? Has anything meaningful come from the current Senators? I can’t think of anything.
Dime
Dime,
Thanks for that clarification.
Truthfully, I am not going hog-wild over either candidate. It has been a process of elimination for me.
Congress will never pass anything because they all square off against each other and nothing ever gets done.
I think the economy was headed south before the Democrats took control. This housing business didn’t just start and neither did the energy problem. I am not that partisan to blame on party.
When I heard the news today, I was not too thrilled. Sara Palin seems pleasant enough, but upon reviewing her choices and stated opinions, she clearly does NOT have the ideals I want in a Vice President. In any case, it is RIDICULOUS to think that we should vote for John McCain simply because of who he has chosen for VP. If I don’t dig the man to begin with, why should I change my mind now? He is the one running for the highest office in the land, not her.
It’s interesting. Barack Obama first came to national attention/prominence from a speech he gave at the DNC in 2004. This is when people first started talking about seeing something presidential in him. Even with all this debate about his “lack of experience”, people could recognize his leadership qualities from way back. McCain and Biden have a definite history of trying for the presidency. Where in the heck is Sara Palin coming from? Where are the people who recognized her as leader striving for national office? Hmm….
People have already proclaimed her a “maverick” (cue the Kenny Loggins soundtrack) who fights against Big Oil, but Palin supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve. Some dude on the news even made some ludicrous claim of her foreign policy experience because her state is near Russia…What are people thinking??!! She is a proud NRA member, is against gay marriage, is against a woman’s right to choose, supports the teaching of creationism in public schools…the list goes on. Folks, you know that my liberal self can’t go for that. Plus, pageants are WAY scary…but that’s beside the point.
Does John McCain think that putting a woman on the ticket will hypnotize voters into forgetting how he opposed equal pay for women and funding for victims of domestic violence? He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade!! I can’t fathom that people who truly supported Hillary Clinton’s ideals would blindly support this ticket. Apparently, McCain and the GOP do not think too highly of women, as if our “confused” gender will vote in zombie-like fashion for anyone who has a similar reproductive system.
Finally, Sara Palin does have a compelling and admirable background. She seems like a wonderful and loving mother. However, I am REALLY worried that the GOP will try to play up her child with Down Syndrome (especially since I haven’t heard about the others except for the son who will be deployed soon). I do not think that the GOP should attempt to use either John McCain’s or Sara Palin’s child as an advertisement for a pro-life stance. As I have mentioned previously, this was already done when a mailer was sent during the primaries with a photo of Bridget McCain as a baby. It claimed that John McCain has always been pro-life, exhibited by how he adopted his daughter from Mother Theresa’s orphanage (as opposed to Mitt Romney). Nobody should use or should stand for somebody using their children this way. They are not big-issue examples.
I am just going to have to hope and pray that people will see through this blatant attempt to sway the female and disenfranchised Hillary supporter vote. I don’t for one minute think that the McCain campaign thought, “Hey, ya know who would be the best person with a passion and a vision for this job?” Rather, I think they thought, “We are looking pretty inadequate, boys. Who has a great story and fabulous image? Now watch the pendulum, America. You are getting very sleepy…”
Well put, Diversity Gal. No, we aren’t Stepford wives. Actually, Sarah Palin is a very attractive dynamic woman. However, her life choices should not be models for public policy. Neither she nor McCain should use their children as benchmarks and poster children.
I admire John McCain. His experiences certainly make him a war hero. Being a war hero doesn’t qualify one for President of the United States.
I listened very closely to John McCain’s description of attribures for a person he would appoint to the Supreme Court. I certainly don’t want any more Scalias, Thomases, Alitoes or Roberts. The Supreme Court appointments are probably the most critical of all the reasons we vote for a president and the ones that have the longest affect on our nation. Because of that reason alone, I cannot vote for McCain.
This is the hardest post I have written so far. I’ve given it a lot of thought, and, I’ll admit, gone through more than one draft.
First of all. I’m glad it isn’t Romney. Romney would have been a deeply distasteful and cynical choice in my view … a man Sen. McCain clearly dislikes, a man who had been incredibly disrespectful to McCain during the debates. But, with his success in business and his name recognition, he was arguably the man who gave McCain the best chance of winning.
The choice of VP should not be based solely on political calculation. The Vice President of the United States should be a partner in governing, and, most importantly, should be qualified and prepared to be President in the event that the President is incapacitated or dies in office. Eight of our past Presidents have died in office.
This decision is a test of judgement for a Presidential candidate. It is the duty of a Presidential nominee to choose someone who is prepared to lead this country in a time of crisis, and someone who will be effective as Vice President.
I feel that Sarah Palin meets one of these qualifications: the latter. But I feel that she most certainly does not meet the former.
My chief reason for rejecting Romney as McCain’s running mate was that it would have been a very cynical choice, based solely on political calculation.
Now, while I have nothing against Palin as a person, I have to say that I see the decision to put her on the ticket to be even more cynical than choosing Romney. If McCain had chosen Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, or any woman who was unquestionably, or at least possibly prepared to be President, I could make the argument that he had made a wise choice on behalf of the American people, even if certain political considerations may have been involved.
But today, I was shocked, completely shocked to learn that McCain had chosen Palin after meeting with her only ONCE.
It’s very hard for me to conclude that this decision was made for anything BUT political considerations. Worse, I’m not even convinced that the political advantage is really an advantage at all. But that is another matter, less important in my view.
I am going to try to accept this choice, I’m even going to try to like it. I will hope that the gamble pays off, and that Palin turns out to be more qualified and more prepared to be President than she seems on paper.
But, you know, I heard someone on The Larry King Show tonight, and it really hit me right in the gut.
Someone compared the choice of VP to selecting godparents for your children, and asked of those Americans who have children: Would you trust the lives of your children to someone you had met only once?
I would not. I think most of us would not.
And yet, here is John McCain (or, his advisers) trusting the lives of millions of children, and millions of families to someone with whom he has almost no personal experience.
This is a little scary.
I think this is a questionable decision, albeit from a man who has made more good decisions than bad ones in a long distinguished career.
“well at least he did something and not ordered another study or more useless talks.”
Ask government people how many damn “studies” are ordered and either ignored or go nowhere. Furthermore, doing the WRONG thing isn’t admirable just because “something” is done.
As for drilling in national parks, I’m appalled. We don’t have enough preserved land as it is and Palin wants to ruin our PARKS? This is a big no-no in my book.
MH, I agree: I’m not hog-wild about ANY candidate ever. Like you said, it’s a process of elimination. And it’s always a gamble. As someone who doesn’t like to gamble, I resent being forced to do so every election period.
WHWN,
I have always deeply respected your viewpoint. Since I started posting on this blog, I have seen you write some really smart and thought-provoking pieces. Your post pointed out some additional things that made me worry about John McCain’s choice of VP.
I think you should really go with your gut on this one…you know, the one that has that punched feeling right about now. There were many times in the past 8 years that I have tried to accept a “gut-punching” decision W and his administration made. Unfortunately, I never did feel like everything turned out OK.
I hope that what CNN contributor Paul Begala said is seriously considered by American voters:
“For a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain’s age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.”
I believe that the McCain camp made this choice as if the position of Vice President doesn’t really matter, except as a way to attract voters. You are right…this is HORRIBLE political judgment. It may actually fool some people, but that doesn’t mean it was the right, thoughtful, America, I-have-your-best-interests-at-heart choice.
I am hopeful the Congress can focus on the mission of gov’t. I’m not sure when gay marriage surged to the top of the mission list and where that shoved infrastructure – roads and bridges,
transportation, economy and environment. I am prolife but not millitant about it and don’t think it takes priority over these things or even belongs on the list. The biggest moral issue I see facing the US is greed which for some reason is ignored.
The largest “social” issue should be health care.
The RR finally lost some of its grip when Huckabee showed up in their midst. They didn’t know what to do with him even after courting that voting block for years. The Republicans couldn’t get rid off Huckabee fast enough. Guess Palin is the bone thrown in that direction.
Time for the working class to take back this country.
WHWN,
I liked your thoughtful post even if I don’t agree with it all. I am less troubled by the selection than most but maybe it is because I have a deep cynicism for the normal process for selection of a President. First off, why would a career politician in a legislative body (and it applies to most candidates) have any experience running this country? They know one thing best–politics. And it is politics that people who want Obama and change to change most. So, in even the best of circumstances, whether it is Obama or McCain, one would be talking about foxes in the henhouse. And a US Senator knows how to be the employer of millions of people and manager of assets in the trillions like a President has to be?
So, if a Senator doesn’t know anything more than how to win an argument, how do they do in running an organization? Lately, it appears that most can’t even win an argument. The most effective ones who have come the legislative route have been those that hire good managers to do it for them. Most organizations are very effective with this kind of approach–leave the top dog to make policy and glad-hand people, and leave number 2 to run the organization.
What I look for in a President, when candidates are running, is how I believe their thought processes work so that I feel secure that when it comes down to it, good decisions are made for areas that are unknown to us at this point. Say what you will about George Bush and Iraq, but I thought his handling of the aftermath of 9-11 made me proud. By the way, I did not agree with going into Iraq, since I couldn’t see a way out once we were there.
I had great hope for President Clinton and he came from a small state. I have to admit that I was sometimes nervous that he could be a president like Jimmy Carter who I thought was terribly ineffective and showed what inexperience could do. He was a good hearted man but just could not run this organization. (Of course on the opposite end of the spectrum was Richard Nixon, who was a masterful manager but was also plagued with being over-marchiavellian to a fault.) But I am sorry if I offend Clinton apologists but I think the Clinton presidency was more like Nixon’s than Carter. And my feelings go beyond Lewinsky, they also include the firing of the travel staff (a nonpolitical structure), the making of thousands of dollars by Hilary in a stock issue, Whitewater (which I still feel had some merit just not proven) and frankly during the campaign, Hilary and Bill showed how truly nasty they could be.
But back to orginal point, I would rather see someone with executive experience running on a ticket than just a politician even if the experience was on a smaller scale. So if you don’t have that background yourself (Mr. McCain was an officer but it was due to being a pilot, and a Senator, but no real executive experience), I am glad he picked someone who provides some strengths where he is weak.
And also about McCains age and his selection of a running mate–I don’t buy that argument. We have had too many Presidents who were near McCain’s age who lived for many years after their terms in office, and unfortunately we have had some much younger who did not.
Like Madam Mofo, I don’t know much about this woman. But she’s young and naive, and she may actually believe the things she says she believes. Free trade, no wasted spending, crackdown on corruption… She may actually believe in these things and not just be using these beliefs as soundbites to gain political power.
I’m optimistic.
Since the announcement, I have done a little research on Ms. Palin. I won’t go in to it because I am sure you have all heard most of what I learned from the pundits who have been talking about Ms. Palin as the VP choice, since the announcement.
I think Ms. Palin was selected in part because of her ultra conservative stance. As you recall Dr. James Dobson and many other right wing evangelicals said they would not vote in this election because they could not support McCain. They were in hopes that Romney would get the nomination or maybe Huckabee. Now that McCain has selected Ms. Palin, I am sure the stategists who have been working on his campaign, believe they have won back the evangelical vote. They may also think they will win the vote of the Hillary supporters who are miffed because she was not selected as the VP candidate. I do not believe that women will vote for McCain just because he selected a woman to run as VP.
Since Ms. Palin and Senator McCain are both tagged as mavericks, it will be interesting to see how this relationship pans out.
McCain has truly shown that you can do anything in America without giving it much thought. In such a critical time in America, McCain, nor his staff, that he chose to help him seemed to know or care that Sara Palin is being investigated. The investigation not only is still going on about Sara Palin but it is being reported that she has been caught on tape lying. After all the lies that this country has been told already Sara Palin is the last thing this country needs to take over this country if something happened to Sentor McCain. I am for working moms, but with Sara Palin having 5 children and with her youngest only being 4 months old & having special needs as downs symdrome a mom being around more is very important. Who will really suffer when there are not enough of hours in her day to get the job done, the country or her child! Sara Palin isn’t talking about trying to govern one State and balancing your schedule with your children she is talking about the whole country. What is she thinking? It doesn’t seem she has giving this much thought nor has Sentor McCain. Then again, Sentor McCain has offered his wife on stage at a motorcyle convention to run in there contest for being Miss Buffalo Chip!! This pagent for being topless & bottomless. Does he not check anything out before he trys to disgrace not only his wife that is suppose to be an example of what a first lady represents but also disgraces us & us in the eyes of other countries. Does he view this country as being more of joke then a place of pride and honor? He shows more and more that he doesn’t have what it takes to give us much pride or honor on top of all the other critical issues that shouldn’t be taken so likely.
All I can say is it is true! NO WAY, NO HOW NO MCCAIN!
I don’t think any Republicans should be talking about “real change” in Washington vs. just saying what is politically expedient. Obama was talking about reform 2 years ago when Republicans were still trying to figure out whether to run ON the Bush legacy or away from it.
Now, with the.American people calling for change, McCain rotates again by choosing a so-called reformer for VP (who also happens to be anti-science and anti-choice).
Palin may well mean what she talks about ending a woman’s right to choose and teaching “Creationism” instead of science to America’s children. The question is does McCain mean anything he says at this point having flip-flopped on tax cuts for the super-wealthy, immigration , etc. Now he has flipped-flopped on whether experience and readiness to be President is important for a Commander in Chief.
McCain understanably doesn’t want to acknowledge his age or his four cancer scares, but as Americans we have to. My gut doesn’t feel so good either folks.
David Frum at National Review (you know, that wild lefty rag) wrote a relatively mild blog item opposing the Palin pick. He says he was flooded with email critical of him. His response is worth reading, particularly the part about Obama’s qualifications. Not that it needs saying, but Frum is not an Obama supporter.
http://frum.nationalreview.com/
(look at the diary part on the same link if you want to see the item that caused the flood of mail)
About the choice issue. Palin isn’t the half of it. The Republican Party platform does not support a single exception on abortion. I mean not a single one. Not for rape, not for incest, and not EVEN for the life of the mother. Efforts this year and during the last election to include any such language have been blocked. McCain was once pushing for such changes, but not any more. He buckled under the party line.
I am not a single-issue voter. But it says something loud and clear to me when a party can tell half the population of this country (the only half that can get pregnant) that their lives aren’t worth a wording shift, that their deaths are preferable to allowing an abortion to occur. A large percentage of women who have abortions are already mothers. Yet for the GOP, it is *officially* preferable that a woman leave her existing children motherless than have an abortion if her life is in danger. This isn’t leftover language in some static historical document, this is speech that some have lobbied actively to change. But no dice.
THanks for the link Leila. For the life of my daugher, I will fight for the ability of her to choose the destiny of her own body.
Wow, I didn’t know Tina Fay had a twin sister, much less one that is Gov. of Alaska!
“but with Sara Palin having 5 children and with her youngest only being 4 months old & having special needs as downs syndrome a mom being around more is very important. Who will really suffer when there are not enough of hours in her day to get the job done, the country or her child!”
Would you dare say this about a man??? If so, then you should reject Biden who left his kids everyday to work in Washington when their mother was killed along with their sibling. I don’t care if he came home every night, it is still the same thing. Instead he is admired because he did come home every night.
You can reject Sarah Palin for her views or beliefs, but don’t reject her because she is the mom of a special needs child who has decided to work. She doesn’t have 5 little kids. One child is in the Army, two are in high school, a daughter in elem and then the baby. Her husband recently quit work to be a stay at home dad. Come on, where are the people who cheer for a man that is willing to do that. Why can’t he do just as good of a job as a stay at home mom? Do you even realize how this sounds?
This is exactly the type of sexism that Hillary was complaining about… and the odd thing was although I was not a big Hillary supporter, I now totally admire her because I see what she was fighting…Geewhiz I think she’d even stand up for Sarah Palin’s right to be a VP candidate at this point. I can’t not believe I heard major network anchors on MSNBC actually question whether that was ok for her to campaign with a special needs child. They would have never said that about a man. What if Obama or Hillary had adopted a child with special needs, would you tear them apart for campaigning or would that be “different”?
I thought women had come a long way baby, but now I’m starting to wonder if it was just an illusion.
Calm down and before you make a comment, think “would I say this about a male candidate”, if not, maybe it is better to not say anything at all.
Diana, I do think you need to lighten up a bit. You may not like McCain but it is obvious he was joking about First Lady and Buffalo Chip in front of a bunch of bikers.
And I have to agree with anon, you apparently think you are an expert as far as Sara Palin and her family are concerned and how they raise their kids.
I would rather that someone talk to me straight than to spout platitudes like “Change” without defining it any further and without having a steady position. I think there has been shifting by both sides–of course, we can’t talk about refusing public money when he said he would to avoid limitations now that he can raise money. He didn’t say, I would take public money and its limitations unless I can raise more. Or even his signature position–a firm timeline for getting out of Iraq has been changed to “we will see what is happening on the ground.”
Someone doesn’t seem to have the courage of his convictions not matter how broad and undefined they might be. And how about the recognition that no President enacts anything without the majority of 535 other people. Heck I even saw the ridiculous comment about a “Clinton Economy” when people know that there is about a 7 year business cycle. Maybe it was the economy that was tanking when George Bush took over and had to chance to fix.
change first “to” in last line “no”.
“Every citizen’s vote should count in America, not just the votes of partisan insiders in the Electoral College,” said Rep. Gene Green, D-Texas, who sponsored the bill along with Rep. Brian Baird, D-Wash.
“There have been more than 700 attempts to change the Electoral College since its inception”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-24-electoral-college_x.htm
Should we consider CHANGING this instead of wishing for change? 😉
Palin joins McCain But Watch Out
August 30, 2008
This performance by Governor Sarah Palin is incredible. Palin was a supporter and fund-raiser for Pat Buchanan as far back as 1996.
One of Buchanan’s main issues is illegal immigration and the need to control the border and enforce our laws. He is opposed to McCain’s comprehensive immigration reform. Were she to selectively back off illegal immigration and support McCain’s plan she would prove to be a sell-out and would hurt McCain more than helping them. She and McCain must know this. If they don’t, we must make sure they do.
Watch Palin’s speech accepting McCain’s invitation to join him as Vice President
Watch MSNBC’s Chuck Todd, Chris Matthews, and Pat Buchanan comment on Palin’s nomination
PS — JUST GOT THIS EMAIL
Laura Ingraham stated on her radio show Friday morning that a few months ago she spoke with Palin and Palin told her that she was against “comprehensive immigration” reform. If it is true that she opposes McCain and Obama and Biden on amnesty and instead is for strong enforcement of the borders, this will get McCain more votes than he would lose from having another open-borders person on his ticket.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/
http://www.predatoryaliens.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/08/27/poll-americans-would-get_n_61996.html?show_comment_id=9746617
Red Dawn,
Thanks for the link. I think they Electoral College should be abolished myself. What a joke it is. Why do we the citizens even bother to go to the polls if the popular vote of we the people is ignored, and it’s left up to those belong to the EC. Let’s face it we sure saw happen 8 years ago, and who’s to say that same crap won’t happen again this year.
Poor Richard,
Tina Fey(tee hee) those were my exact words to Red Dawn last night. She thought she also looked like Elaine from Sienfeld.
Red Dawn,
Thanks for the link. I think the Electoral College should be abolished myself. What a joke it is. Why do we the citizens even bother to go to the polls if the popular vote of we the people is ignored, and it’s left up to those belong to the EC. Let’s face it we sure saw happen 8 years ago, and who’s to say that same crap won’t happen again this year.
Poor Richard,
Tina Fey(tee hee) those were my exact words to Red Dawn last night. She thought she also looked like Elaine from Sienfeld.
sorry for the double post.
Here’s a link on our flag. Please, scroll down at look at how Presidential candidate John McCain chose to deface our flag. And this coming from a US vet and former POW. This make me sick.
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html
Chris,
As I watched the speech tonight she still had her hair up in a pony tail and I thought about your question, is she sporting the tony ? LOL
http://beauty.hsn.com/toni-brattins-beauty-secrets_c-bs_a-161_xc.aspx?kw=tonypony&sourceid=googbg&prev=hp&rdr=1&cm_mmc=Paid%20Search%20Brand-_-Google-_-Beauty-_-tony%20pony
They should call that the phony toni pony.
Did you check out my flag link, on a more serious note?
Chris,
It took me a minute to find it. What else do you expect celebrities/politicians to do? (lol, not) To wear a pin ( made in China) or not 😉
Okay, of course I thought of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEPe4fZNf74
Chris,
I checked out your flag link. I could not believe Bush or McCain. If anyone should know better, they should.
Loved the video Red Dawn. So spot on!
Alert! An annoucement: The parking garage in Old Town Manassas
in Old Town Manassas finally opened to the public today! (Great views from
the top floor – looking down the RR tracks towards Culpeper, the mountains
really stand out.)
Ok, back to Sarah Palin. All I have to say – for right now – is that anyone
nick-named “Barracuda” on a state champion basketball team needs to be
watched. The Dems should not take her lightly. Gov. Palin may not be your
cup of tea, but she ain’t Dan Q. in pigtails.