“At a John McCain rally in Woodbridge, Virginia, three people handed out “Obama for Change” bumper stickers with the Communist sickle and hammer and the Islamic crescent, saying Obama was a socialist with ties to radical Islam. Several moderate McCain supporters, Muslim and Christian alike, struck back – relentlessly bombarding the group distributing the flyers until they left the premises.”
(ANP)
A huge thank you to Fontbonne for finding this video and for bringing it to my attention for posting.
Several video threads have been posted about outrageous speech coming from McCain supporters. Well, here we go again, you might be thinking.
Not so fast. You will get to see McCain supporters running off 3 someones who are peddling hate. It really made me proud, Prince William Proud, to see these moderate McCain supporters standing up for what is right.
Enjoy, This is a good one and thanks again Fontbonne.
I think it’s important to note how well the McCain campaign person handled the situation. The gentleman clearly stated that they weren’t with the campaign.
Amazing, and not in a good way I might add. Those individuals weren’t doing anything to help their candidates campaign. They were clearly doing it a grave disservice. Why people what to waste such time and energy on stirring up this crap is beyond me. I’ve also, considered the possibility that those three individuals weren’t even really McCain supporters.
That was great! Thank you ANP, thank you Fontbonne, and thanks M-H!
The McCain campaign staffer said he ran for Congress. We can find out who he is. I hope he is local to PWC. I hope they are all local. Those citizens were just the type of people we need in this county. Not afraid to stand up to hate. I’m so relieved that the story out of that rally is that there is more COURAGE; not more hate, in PWC than at previous Palin/McCain rallies.
And Chris, I think it was the real deal. I could see it in their eyes. They were real haters, not actors.
One weird thing is that this was Saturday, and the Karl Rove strategists running the McCain campaign didn’t start with the “communist” and “socialist” hate crusade until today, am I wrong?
Is it a “communist” and “socialist” hate crusade, or a public awareness message? You decide! All I know is that McCain hasn’t been accused of connections to either group even by Obama supporters. As you say, the lesser of two evils…………
“Hate Speech?” Good Lord. See how easily you throw that term around? Is it racist, too? Of course it is. Everything is racist and all utterances are hate speech.
I’m actually glad you folks are out there discrediting your messages.
I’m PROUD of the anti-Hate and Anti-Stupid McCain folks attempting to thwart the spread of real, twisted Communism in this county. You’re welcome in my neck of the woods any time!
Long live Interfaith Justice and Truth! BRAVO!
“Public Awareness” would be exposing those who attempt to squelch free speech and the American ideal of belief in our nation which Obama HAS.
We don’t need anyone fueling the flames against our Middle Eastern brothers and sisters in this country, no matter what the war situation. If this is your destructive version of “free speech,” then take it somewhere else–the McCain rally isn’t the place for you. Neither is our county, for that matter.
Love how the liars are white and refuse to give their names. Bigots AND cowards who couldn’t even prove their own statements. WOW.
I think that this demonstrates a majority of McCain supporters (the ones running off 3 someones who are peddling hate). You have extremist on both sides but it seems to me like only the loons and morons from the far right get any “air time”.
Kind of off topic but I’m starting to see a pretty disturbing trend going on here at this site. I keep seeing more and more people saying things like “Love how the liars are white” and so on… It’s starting to pop up in just about every thread, so much so that it seems to be widely accepted. Is there any way we can stop the derogatory and sometimes hateful comments about “white” people. For people who claim to embrace diversity so much this kind of talk is anything but.
I believe that this is a result of John McCain’s leadership. Last week wasn’t the first time that McCain stood against ignorance among his supporters. Months ago he rebuked talk show host Bill Cunningham for inappropriate remarks at the cost of Cunningham’s support.
Now some McCain supporters are following his lead.
When you get down to it, McCain isn’t that bad of a guy. It’s disappointing though that during his campaign he’s pandered to the radical right wing of the Republican party.
SecondAlamo, do you agree with the implication on the phony Obama bumperstickers? Really? Apart from being obviously untrue, it is a ludicrous juxtaposition.
Obama has been simultaneously accused by the right of being a radical Muslim extremist of the Wahabi variety and a Communist Marxist. Never mind the fact those two categories are mutually exclusive. Oh, and he has also been accused of being a radical Afrocentric Christian, again mutually exclusive with the other two. This has been part of the kitchen sink approach: throw anything you have at him and hope something sticks even if it contradicts itself.
1. The speakers WERE white. So are GL, RD, JS, CS and CLAN. They make “white” people look like a-holes. I’m about tired of them misrepresenting my appearance. (Recall, I look “white.”)
2. The white speakers were slamming Muslims and African Americans. In fact they were slamming their fellow “white” people!
3. I’m the one who reported a recent MJM commenter for calling people “white trash.” That is wrong in my book.
SA and Slow, I am throwing up my hands up over both of you! This article was posted because I had been asked to post a video of Republicans doing the right thing. I thought I had done that. There is an incredible amount of nasty talk (or hate talk or whatever you want to call it) going on out there in election-land.
A mainstream, conservative Republican asked me to post this video. I gladly complied. There are many good and decent McCain supporters out there who have gotten a bad rep because of the actions of a few.
It sounds to me like you two side with the thug out there with the ‘radicalized’ Obama bumper stickers. And for the record, any jackass can have bumperstickers made up.
Mainstream and decency ruled the day here. I am sorry that offended you. Actually, no I’m not. I don’t give a crap. No matter what was posted, you would both find something to bitch about. Boo friggin’ Hoo.
Thanks, Fontbonne and Moon-howler, for providing this video. I saw a portion of it on AOL last night but didn’t know how to post it so that everyone could see it (AOL problem). I’m glad to see this extended version which shows more McCain supporters challenging those three loons who couldn’t even answer basic questions about what they were peddling.
Pinko (aka KG), I have no clue what you look like – keep in mind that your also the one the insinuated I was somehow afraid of vagina’s (fyi – I’ve dated black women, white women, Latino women and Asian women – I’m not intimidated by any vagina). I’m just pointing out what I see as a disturbing trend. From NGL saying that seeing a group of white people cheering creeps him/her out to your previous statement. I was trying to do it in a way not to call out any one person, just to point out a trend that nobody else seems to have a problem with. Isn’t that what was happening on the “other” site?
Damn, Pinko, you might have reported me. I use that expression frequently. There is such an over-abundance of it. You ought to see my PWT list! It’s getting longer and longer. That expression has been around a lot longer than either of us.
I don’t think the ethnicity of the crowd in the video is horribly important. The video is about decent people running off jerks. Their race, religion, gender is almost irrelevant. You could stick any color and any religion on any of the players.
The point is, the loons offended a diverse crowd of apparently decent people who took action and told the jerks to leave.
Moon-Howler,
Easy with the hate-speech!!!
Slowpoke, chomp!
http://www.searchingwolf.com/howl.wav
Well, like I had said, all the nuttiness and craziness will come out like fireworks during these final two weeks before Election Day.
This might be slightly off-topic (only slightly), but this type of “hate-baiting” using religion and race reminds me of a comment Rush Limbaugh made yesterday in an email about the Powell endorsement of Barack Obama:
Source: click here
Elena, you and others had remarked in another post how the Republican party is basically killing itself from within. Well this foul race-focused comment of Limbaugh’s punctuates that fact, and I think a dedicated post on it (i.e., the Limbauh remark and the death of this generation’s Republican party) would be fantastic.
LOL! MH, I love that soundtrack! Perfect!
Nah, I didn’t report you, unless you post as phdee. I just think “white trash” is no different than BVBL calling ethnic groups “trash” and “vermin.” I’ve called MYSELF white trash as a joke (hell, I call myself a LOT of things as a joke) but I think it’s wrong to degrade other people based on their race and socioeconomic status.
That said, I notice things like race and ethnicity all the time, and some of my advanced studies are in sociology and gender. So I’m probably a little more focused on it than other people are. When I am in a group, I note who makes up that group and who is saying what to whom.
When someone acts like an idiot and they look like me, I don’t appreciate it. When someone has a vagina and acts like an idiot, I don’t appreciate THAT either. Why? Because idiots like to generalize by color, gender, socioeconomic status, disability, and any other thing they can get their hands on.
One Mexican man said to me, every time a crime is reported in the papers he prays, “PLEASE don’t let it be a Mexican! PLEASE don’t let it be a Mexican!”
Same thing here. “PLEASE don’t let people misrepresent my culture, appearance, beliefs, etc.”
I already told you I don’t like group behavior because it’s too easy for the individual to get misrepresented. This is another symptom if my mistrust in large groups (in particular, political parties).
Hello, you were so offended by reference to genitals, I was being ironic. Gentials are a part of life. Let’s not ass-ume people who talk about them are somehow vile or immoral.
I am not a MCCain supporter, but that was nice to see. Too bad that kind of thing couldn’t have happened 4 years ago. The country may not be as divides as it is today.
Pinko, I wasn’t offended by the reference to genitals, I was offended by the way you chose to talk about your view of Palin by saying that she was an embarrassment to any professional with a vagina. I’m sure there are plenty of women who like Palin because she is a successful woman while at the same time being a mother to such a large family, not an embarrassment to their gender.
Also, just curious as to the name change, any reason for it?
Poor white trash is actually about behavior and not about being poor. White is just a coincidence. A good source for understanding the classic PWT is out of Gone With the Wind. Emmy Slattery and her husband, Mr. Wilkerkson, former fired overseer at Tara, came riding up to Tara in a buggy, all decked out in finery post Civil War saying they were buying the place. They were seen as scalawags. <---southern carpetbaggers Scarlet's mother had gone down and nursed someone in Emmy's family back to health, contracted a deadly disease and died. In her rage and trying to raise money for taxes, Scarlet picks up a handful of earth (Tara earth) and throws it in both of their faces and calls them 'poor white trash' and that the fist-full of dirt was all of Tara they would ever get. Everyone who lives in the South should read or see the movie Gone With the Wind once. It explains things that make no sense otherwise. Having said that, poor white trash is not a term to be thrown around in public except in extreme cases. It is not the same as calling someone vermin because it is totally behaviorally related. It has nothing to do with money. There is something to be said for groups policing their own. In this case, it has gone on for centuries and might not be a bad thing.
Ladies and gentlemen: I proclaim “Hello” as the winner of the Most Hilarious “I Have Friends Who Are X” Statement Ever Made in the History of Time Award:
I am rolling on the floor, back to my desk, then on the floor again laughing.
Robb, Rush Limbaugh is a hateful person blinded by his own hate dogma. The fact that he turned it against Colin Powell, and used race to attack him, is not at all surprising to me.
It reminds me of when Scott McClellan came out and started telling the truth after a year or so of decompressing from his job at the White House, which was to lie.
It reminds me of the son of William F. Buckley, founder of the conservative movement, who came out in favor of Obama and then was railroaded out of the party.
Powell has it right. The party is narrowing itself down to its very narrow core: the Freedom Fry Voters who still approve of G. W. Bush despite all that has happened (24 percent). They are excluding moderates, they are excluding compassionate conservatives, they are excluding people of color, people from urban and suburban areas, people with college educations, people who want a composed and steady hand on foreign policy decisions, people who want a composed and steady hand on economic decisions, people who believe in balanced budgets, people who believe in justice, people who believe in the Geneva Convention, people who want to restore America’s reputation….
We need the real Republican Party to stand up, and I sure hope it’s the young people who chased away those hate puppets in this video.
Moon-Howler, thank you. You have my utmost respect and gratitude.
Thanks to you also Fontbonne!
I was one of the people who asked M-H to post something positive about the McCain campaign. I am rooting for the Republicans, not to win this election, but to win the battle for the soul of their party. Giving props to people like you and those courageous people in this video is a way to support the ones we need to win this battle. The Marty Nohe/Mike May/Maureen Caddigan Republicans must prevail over the Corey Stewart/Greg Letiecq/John Stirrup Republicans. Otherwise, we have much suffering and little progress ahead of us in PWC, and elsewhere in VA.
NGL, that would be “I have friends who are XX”…
Yes, Censored, or better yet: “I have friends who are XX, have dark pigmentation, and we have not shied away from any sex acts.”
Check out this column by Richard Cohen in today’s Post. I completely agree that the John’s, Corey’s and Greg’s of the Republican Party are the party’s downfall. I actually really liked (notice the “ed” at the end of the word) John McCain before all this pitiful pandering began. He won the party’s nomination…that in itself should have encouraged him to remain ….here we go…”the maverick”. Instead he tried to move further to the right to pacify the Stirrup’s and Stewart’s. Not a good move. At all. The republican party collectively chose him as the nominee…not Tancredo or Romney. Not sure if the link will post, so I’ve cut some of the article below.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/20/AR2008102002292.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Now, all this is rubble. It is not merely that Barack Obama was always going to garner the vast majority of the black vote. It is also that the GOP, under Rove and his disciples in the McCain campaign, has not only driven out ethnic and racial minorities but a vast bloc of voters who, quite bluntly, want nothing to do with Sarah Palin. For moderates everywhere, she remains the single best reason to vote against McCain.
But the GOP’s tropism toward its furiously angry base, its tolerance and currying of anti-immigrant sentiment, its flattering of the ignorant on matters of undisputed scientific consensus — evolution, for instance — and, from the mouth of Palin, its celebration of drab provincialism, have sharpened the division between red and blue. Red is the color of yesterday.
Turn PW Blue…are you out there! Job well done!
And another thing…Colin Powell hits the nail on the head. Why would it be so awful even if Obama WAS a Muslim? That woman (term used loosely) that McCain had to snatch the mike from a few weeks ago because she tagged him a Muslim…well so what if he was? Muslim does not equal terrorist, just like immigrant (even illegal immigrant) does not equal Criminal!
I’m disappointed that Hello and some others are complaining there is anti-Caucasian sentiment on this blog, especially on a thread that began with a video that really, really should have united us as Americans.
Most of the people who have identified themselves racially on this blog have identified as Caucasian. I can only think of a few who have said they are ethnic. Some of them have made pointed statements and have perhaps analyzed police work from an overly race-conscious perspective. But having a race-conscious perspective is not the same as institutionalized racism, which was the fatal flaw of the Immigration Resolution.
I am Caucasian, like the majority of people in this county, and the majority of people on this blog. But I have no difficulty accepting, respecting, and exchanging views with minorities who are more race conscious than I am. Frankly, I expect them to be such. I think the views of minorities add something important to this blog, even when I disagree with them. If only Caucasian people contributed here, this blog would be a great deal less informative and less valuable to the community. And, it would be unfair to apply rules to the minority contributors that do not apply to those who do not identify themselves as such.
My opinion:If there is any “trend” on this blog that pushes people away, it is the trend toward criticizing John McCain and/or his campaign.. I think this is undeniable. I’m not sure if this is causing the fears that Hello and others have expressed about the blog being anti-Caucasian. In all likelihood, it is related to statewide and national trends that are also shifting toward Obama, and is not affected by the racial breakdown of the blog’s contributors.
I can’t help but wonder if the uneasiness Hello and others are expressing is really a fundamental disagreement with the general consensus many on this blog share, regardless of our heritage, that as Americans it is our duty to oppose prejudice and bigotry, especially when it impacts our electoral process or the application of equal justice.
I don’t think one has to be a minority …. or know one intimately … to share this core value. Indeed, one must only be a person who is, or aspires to be, an American citizen, and understands our Constitution and our history.
–There are many good and decent McCain supporters out there who have gotten a bad rep because of the actions of a few.–
That’s right! And this is why I can’t stand how RACISTS in this county end up representing ALL of us! Remember when I said if Wally Covington didn’t stand up to racism then he was part of it? Well, that’s what I mean. He’s letting racists represent HIM and US.
Hello, Palin is a HUGE humiliation to those professionals with a vagina, IMHO. Are you a professional with a vagina? Have you had to fight sexism in your every-day life just to have your gender underminded by people who should not be representing YOU? If not, then we can’t really have this discussion.
–I can’t help but wonder if the uneasiness Hello and others are expressing is really a fundamental disagreement with the general consensus many on this blog share, regardless of our heritage, that as Americans it is our duty to oppose prejudice and bigotry, especially when it impacts our electoral process or the application of equal justice. —
WELL said, WHWN!
BTW, I post as “Pinko” because GL says we’re all Communisits and Socialists. Get the irony?
Love Always,
Pinko-the Fat Broad-Gotthardt
From the WP article:
“…voters who, quite bluntly, want nothing to do with Sarah Palin. For moderates everywhere, she remains the single best reason to vote against McCain.”
I’m an Independent Moderate.
I’m also a woman.
I want nothing to do with Sarah Palin.
Pinko, no, I’m not a professional with a vagina. However, I grew up in the basement of my grand-mothers house because my mother was a single mother working 3 jobs to get by. She scratched and clawed her way to the top of her profession and after watching this struggle first hand I can appreciate what it must take.
I don’t agree with allot of Palin’s views either but calling her an embarrassment to all women is downright wrong. What have you accomplished with your life? Have you ever made it to the top of any?
NGL – I wasn’t talking to you so F off. You constantly talk about race in just about every thread and you also show your obvious feelings for “white” people, remember, they creep you out.
I agree, Posting As Pinko, although I’m socially more liberal and fiscally more conservative. If choosing Palin was an attempt to attract female voters, it failed. It appeared to say that anyone who was a female should be satisfied with this dog bone, an unqualified female. If it were to attract rightwing voters, I think it failed to notice that McCain beat the wingnuts. He should have concentrated on the middle, moderate swing voter. With Palin’s selection, he thumbed his nose at the moderates of both parties and of no party.
I think Palin is not an embarrassment to women so much as her selection as VP candidate is an insult to us. Letterman asked McCain if he’d have chosen a similarly inexperienced and little known governor who was a man. I didn’t buy his answer. “Yes absolutely” or something like that. I find it insulting, because the truth is, he would NOT have chosen her if it were not for Hillary Clinton’s historic candidacy, which, if not her unfortunate vote to authorize Bush to invade Iraq, would have provided us with a female President who got their because of her qualifications.
Now, one could argue, that being First Lady put her in a position to run for President based on her husband’s record in the White House. But, let’s not forget “two for the price of one.” Hillary was an instrumental part of the Clinton White House, not just a smiling hostess.
Hello –
“What have you accomplished with your life? Have you ever made it to the top of any?”
Excellent point. Sounds like Pinko has a bad case of sour grapes.
Sounds like Hello has a bad case of… a bad sense of humor. Lighten up! You set yourself up for NGL’s joke. But no one knows who you are so don’t be so red faced (no pun intended).
Finally, moderate folks trying to get people talking about and discussing the issues! It is about time. Huge kudos the the McCain supporters who stood up to the hate-speech clowns unwilling to hold a civil public discourse.
This made my day.
Here is an interesting item about a Colombian immigrant, Tito the Builder, who appeared at McCain’s rally in Woodbridge yesterdy.
John McCain and an Army of Joes
The real anger at McCain’s rallies.
By Byron York
Woodbridge, Va. — Tito Munoz was ready to rock when John McCain showed here up at the Connaughton Community Plaza in Woodbridge, Virginia Saturday afternoon. Dressed in a yellow hard hat covered with McCain-Palin stickers, wearing an orange high-visibility vest, Munoz carried a hand-lettered sign that said CONSTRUCTION WORKER FOR McCAIN. He got a coveted spot in the bleachers directly behind McCain, where he could be seen in the camera shot along with the guy holding the sign that said PHIL THE BRICK LAYER and the woman with the ROSE THE TEACHER banner. He cheered a lot.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWRhZDE1ODdiYzRiMzcyMWM5NzNjMWMxMDQ1ZDRkYzI=#more
We are beating the word ‘racist’ to death. It has no meaning any more to me. I have desensitized.
Find another word. Elaborate. ‘Racist’ has become the new ‘thing.’ Let’s try ethnocentric for a day if it must be discussed.
What have you accomplished with your life? Have you ever made it to the top of any?”
LOL! Palin should never have made it to the VP list. THAT is the embarrassment to professionals with vaginas. She’s there to get the “women” vote and the “men who think she’s hot” vote. McCain doesn’t even KNOW her! She has no experience and comes off like a DIP. How stupid.
Hello, we each accomplish things in our lives. Do you really believe “making it to the top” makes your life somehow superior to anyone else’s? I suppose with this logic you believe people who live poor, oppressed and struggling are NOTHINGS. Your statements are odd considering how you seem to revere your grandmother who didn’t “make it to the top.” Was her life worthless because she wasn’t chosen on a VP ticket? Or do you think YOUR life is worthless because YOU haven’t made it to whatever you perceive the “top” is?
I think the assumption that political power or money puts you at the “top” is superficial at best, depressing at worst. I’m quite happy with what I’ve accomplished and the challenges I have managed to overcome. How about YOU?
Moon-howler,
It seems as though you should limit your “rants” to a minimum. You are disturbing others that supposedly have jobs. Now, they are working girls over on BVBL, aren’t they?
Pinko, I know what it’s like to live poor and struggle and no, I never said that people that live in those conditions are “NOTHINGS”, I’ve been there. My point was that people in Alaska didn’t seem to think she was an embarrassment, they elected her and seem to like what she is doing for them. Do I think she was the right choice for VP, no, but just because McCain chose her doesn’t mean the deserves to be called an embarrassment. I’m sure your in the minority on this one KG no matter how you try to spin it.
I saw what my mom went thru trying to raise 3 kids while working multiple jobs so I can appreciate what Palin has accomplished. That doesn’t mean I agree with everything she stands for and calling her an embarrassment only belittles what she has done in her life.
You contradict yourself when you claim to have fought sexism every day of your life then turn around and call another woman an embarrassment to all women when she had to overcome the same thing but in politics where sexism is much more prevelent. Odd, I just don’t get you logic there.
Good footage.
I like the footage where McCain takes the mic away from the crazy woman at his rally as well … I can see him thinking while she talks, I believe the conversation in his head is “Should I just get the mic and walk away from her” and then that’s pretty much what he does. He didn’t want to protract that dialogue.
Bwaaa hahahaha Jorge. You are asking the wrong person. Sounds to me like Gossip Girls rather than working girls. Surely with the rule of law being the holy grail there, no one would be blogging from work. Wouldn’t be prudent.
Hi Moon-howler, thanks for posting this video. It’s refreshing to see something like this, I bet you will never see anything like this in the media. Also, what about reports of Obama supporters vandalizing cars with McCain stickers or intimidating them? Like this one from PG County:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101101465_pf.html