According to the Gainesville-Times, Corey Stewart is not too happy with the McCain Campaign because Senator McCain did not address the immigration issue. McCain supports a pathway to citizenship and co-sponsored an Immigration Reform bill in 2007 which went down in defeat.
Apparently, Corey Stewart felt that the McCain Campaign dissed him and his fellow Republican leaders at the October 18 rally at the County Complex:
…Stewart resented what he perceived as the McCain camp’s attempt to distance itself from the county’s crackdown.
“We had no real place other than getting introduced through a long line of people,” Stewart said of his fellow Republican county supervisors, referring to an honorees list read by Clerk of the Circuit Court Michele McQuigg.
Though she had asked the audience to hold their applause until the end, Stewart’s name was the only one cheered after she read it.
“I don’t feel that proper protocol was respected, and I think that’s going to hurt him, frankly. The local Republicans know how to win elections here,” said Stewart.
“I’m very, very disappointed in McCain’s campaign here,” he added.
Earlier in the week Stewart bragged that he has practically begged the McCain campaign to come to Prince William County. The Gainesville-Times further elaborates on the immigration issue in Prince William County and how it relates to Stewart.
One issue noticeably absent from Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain’s speech to supporters in Prince William on Saturday was illegal immigration.
Unlike the majority of the Republican base, McCain has supported a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
So for him to stop in the county that was the national hotbed for illegal immigration controversy just last year and not talk about the issue troubled of Board of County Supervisors Chairman Corey Stewart (R).
Stewart complained :
“But I think that clearly McCain’s campaign has tried to distance itself on Prince William County’s local crackdown on illegal immigration,” he said. “And I think that’s a blunder. And I use that word very strongly and I mean it.”
In order to connect with the crowd on illegal immigration, “All he had to say was ‘Protect the borders’ and unlike [Democratic president nominee Sen.] Barack Obama, he does not favor workforce rights and giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. That’s all he had to say,”
Does this mean that Corey is going to just get angry and support Obama? Somehow I can’t see that happening. What I do see here is a sore loser. I wonder what he thinks about the campaign choosing Tito the Builder over him?
Did Corey think the McCain Rally was his very own little pep rally, just for him and his buds? Let’s hope Corey doesn’t trip over his lip.
Corey Stewart is delusional if he actually thinks McCain can relate to what is going on in PWC or any other Small Town USA that has an illegal alien problem.
“I wonder what he thinks about the campaign chosing Tito the Builder over him?”
What’s your infatuation with Tito the Builder and why should Corey Stewart have a problem with him?
Aw……WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Corey! People are disappointed in YOU, too, but we just have to get over it according to you.
Back at ya…..GET OVER IT.
Someone as high up on the food chain as McCain isn’t going to endorse your BS and socioeconomically irresponsible policy that you got from a hate group and now forwarded by a bunch of racists. Or did you forget the U.S. Government doesn’t tend to LIKE racists—outside of our LOCAL government that is?
–What’s your infatuation with Tito the Builder —
Tito is cuter than McCain.
Yeah, I’m kind of with Mando on this one Moon-howler, what is your obsession with Tito being at the rally or introducing Palin? It’s a bit much don’t you think? Do you just not like the fact that a Hispanic man is for McCain? I don’t get it… I happen to like Tito and he gave a great introduction.
@Pinko
What’s your infatuation with Corey Stewart?
“Do you just not like the fact that a Hispanic man is for McCain?”
The fly in the liberal ointment is that since most Hispanics have a strong work-ethic (which I firmly believe), they are naturally a shoe-in for a right of center ideology.
Socialism is kryptonite to those that believe in working hard and keeping the fruit of their labors.
I posted this on the Potpourri thread but it is more applicable here:
“Loudoun, 25. October 2008, 7:08
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2008/oct/judicial-watch-zogby-poll-majority-likely-voters-including-hispanics-want-more-enforce
“This poll shows the American people, no matter their politics or ethnicity, want public officials to enforce federal immigration laws. It is difficult to find any political issue that inspires such unanimity,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The presidential candidates and the media have virtually ignored the illegal immigration issue in this campaign but it remains an important issue to voters. And the message from the American people on immigration is clear: Enforce the law. End sanctuary policies. And stop using tax dollars to help illegal aliens find illegal jobs.”
“71.5% said they agree local law enforcement officers should enforce federal immigration laws, including 51.5% of Hispanics and 56.2% of self-described “liberals.” ”
This poll reinforces the fact that the MAJORITY of people (which means those in PWC like Help Save Manassas, Corey Stewart, John Stirrup, etc. are not a vocal minority, but a VOCAL MAJORITY) want local law enforcement officials to aid in the enforcement of illegal immigration.”
I am tired of Joe the Plumber. I like Tito the Builder better and he is one of our own.
Why on earth do you think I don’t like Tito? I have spent a lot of time on Tito today.
Tired of Tito, skip the thread.
Interesting article Loudoun…
Just asking Moon-howler, you don’t have to be fractious. 🙂
@ Moon-howler
Context is key.
Haha. Corey has discovered that the Hispanic vote is more important to McCain than he is.
It was that razor soup lunch, Hello. Get’s ya every time, you betcha 😉
damn razor’s 😉
Hot off the press, ATF disrupted a plot by skinheads to assassinate Obama. Geez. Here we go.
And I just got it off Fox News. Has to be right then 😉
I saw that as well, absolutely terrible and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s a good thing that this plot was found out and busted in time. I don’t care how much you dislike anyone, killing isn’t the answer.
Hot off the press, sane voters disrupted a plot by the Obama campaign to assassinate the middle classes’ income.
That’s the headline I want to see next week.
I think that there is much hype about Obama having his eyes on middle class income. I have seen it and I don’t believe it. As for those making over 250k, not my problem. If they have to pay more taxes than I do, boo blankin’ hoo.
Moon-howler, it is your problem if you work for a small business.
“As for those making over 250k, not my problem. If they have to pay more taxes than I do, boo blankin’ hoo.”
That’s how Hugo Chavez secured Venezuela and look where they’re headed.
Wealth redistribution is wealth redistribution… and socialism. We don’t need more.
The upper-earners already pay the lion’s share of taxes. Google it.
Also Moon-howler, you say boo balkin’ hoo if people making 250k pay more in taxes than you do. What I think your forgetting is that they aleady do pay more than you, according to Obama they will be paying an additonal 3 to 4 percent more than they already currently do.
This just in:
AP
Published: October 27, 2008
WASHINGTON (AP) _ Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.
In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.
Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.
The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.
“They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama,” Cavanaugh said. “They didn’t believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying.”
An Obama spokeswoman traveling with the senator in Pennsylvania had no immediate comment.
The men, Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tenn., and Paul Schlesselman 18, of West Helena, Ark., are being held without bond. Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested. Authorities alleged the two men were preparing to break into a gun shop to steal more.
Attorney Joe Byrd, who has been hired to represent Cowart, did not immediately return a call seeking comment Monday.
Cowart and Schlesselman are charged with possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms from a federally licensed gun dealer, and threatening a candidate for president.
The investigation is continuing, and more charges are possible, Cavanaugh said.
“I think that there is much hype about Obama having his eyes on middle class income.”
No hype. Even if it’s indirectly, the middle class will get screwed with more wealth redistribution.
Mando, under the circumstances, your joke is not funny.
“Mando, under the circumstances, your joke is not funny.”
Says you.
Lot’s of lunatics want to assassinate people in power. It’s a SCARY world out there K.
–It’s a SCARY world out there K.—
Yeah buddy.
My husband has worked in small business for years. I have not heard any draconian plan to nail small business.
Those individuals making over 250k would go for 36% to 39%. That’s about $7500. Remember that if you have money you can afford to protect money. I am somewhat worried about capital gains taxes but the way things are going, I don’t have a darn thing to worry about this year at least.
You all can keep scaring yourself all you want. I don’t buy it. The economy was certainly a big consideration for me in chosing a candidate. However, I am trying to deal with facts rather than hysteria over tax increases. This hysteria could have predicted and is simply a sign of desperation.
I feel sorry for Senator McCain, who I think is a decent person. He is swimming upstream like a salmon. A failed Republican presidency sitting on top of global recession is not the place to count on winning.
Stewart shouldn’t be shocked or disappointed in any way. He knows that if McCain opens his open-borders yap, it’s political suicide. He’s probably already lost due to alienating his conservative base. If we’re going third-world, might as well do it quick!
I honestly don’t believe it’s the conservative base that’s going to cost him this election but rather those undecided independent voters in the center. Also, did you read the letter posted by Rod from Focus on the Family? Apparently, they are scared that Christians too will vote for Obama. Could someone so alienate their base that they vote for the other party’s candidate – doubtful, otherwise they wouldn’t be the base right? Or would the base just boycott or throw their vote away on a write-in or third party candidate which would be more likely to happen.
McCain has made it very clear that localities that implement the types of policies that Prince William has only make things worse. And, now we have Palin’s take on the issue which I will post as a topic thread later this evening.
Censored by bvbl, you got it right:
I think that’s the take away. Corey Stewart thought cultural resentment toward people of Hispanic origin would be his ticket to stardom. No it seems Hispanic voters have turned against the GOP, in great part thanks to the partisan rhetoric and scapegoating of immigrants and Hispanics perpetrated by Mr. Stewart!
Dope thought he was saving the GOP. NOT!!!! Corey Stewart turned out to be one of the biggest nails in the coffin.
Alanna, I think what has happened is that true patriotism has awakened in this country, and no one is willing to toss aside their ability to think for themselves based on simple equations like Christian = Republican. Those days are now over, which is not to say they were ever really here, because there have always been millions of Americans who are Christian and Democrats (otherwise every Karl Rove election would have been 85 percent to 15 percent instead of 52 to 48).
No, there have always been millions of Americans capable of thinking outside of their pastor’s or Karl Rove’s instructions when they enter the poling place. It’s just that now days, no one is even trying to argue that Christian = Republican. How can they with the poll numbers as they are?
I wouldn’t say that real conservatives would vote for Obama, but they’ll either stay home, write in another candidate, etc. It’s not that McCain’s lack of real leadership on the illegal immigration issue will cause his conservative base to vote the other way, but by taking the same stance on the issue as Bush, he’s not giving us a reason to vote for him. Yes, that means Obama wins….like I said, if we’re going into the toilet, let’s go and get it over with. But you know, if I’m wrong, and Obama’s a great President, and the country thrives, I’ll happily admit I was wrong. I liked Clinton quite a bit (he was quite the horn-dog, though, and not just the intern), so I’m not saying a lefty-democrat can’t be a good Pres….I just doubt it.
“A failed Republican presidency sitting on top of global recession is not the place to count of winning.”
I never considered Bush (father OR son) to be a genuine Republican. In fact, I firmly believe that the last genuine Republican President we had was Ronald Reagan. Ironic that he was actually a reformed Democrat.
Insofar as true tax reform is concerned, there is only one plan which has been forwarded in the last three decades which represented true reform…a 10% across the board tax rate, closing loopholes and including raising the “poor” (zero tax level) to include the working poor, or lower middle class. This was what was intended (and the plan developed by) the original Reagan Transition Team, and thwarted by the Bush people who insinuated themselves in those positions which would have been necessary to implement the plan while the Reagan people worked to formulate the means by which Reagan’s promises could be kept. Because it would have taken away the means by which the top 10% of income recipients in this country avoid paying their fair share, it would have brought in FAR more taxes than the current (and previous) tax rate system with all of its means of hiding income within those loopholes.
No, this is NOT a failed Republican administration…it was a successful major corporate welfare administration, which is what it was meant to be.
“Hot off the press, sane voters disrupted a plot by the Obama campaign to assassinate the middle classes’ income.
That’s the headline I want to see next week.”
Mando, I also think your response was gross. Really…that is your response to this situation? Is your message that you care more about a perceived threat on your wallet than a threat on human lives? Come on…
Incredible all the pre-blaming that is going on in the GOP, all for a defeat that hasn’t even happened yet. Bush isn’t really a Republican. Palin is a diva. McCain wouldn’t let Sarah be Sarah. McCain shouldn’t have fought against anti-immigrant hate groups. Corey Stewart didn’t get enough love. Why not wait until after election day to start blaming each other? Can’t even work together in a campaign? How are we supposed to trust you to work with anyone to run a government?
I think McCain will lose Virginia, for two reasons.
1. His Republican base has shrunk, primarily because he has sided with radical religious leadership in the republican party, effectively shrinking the party and driving conservatives to the democratic ticket in large numbers. People are becoming more and more afraid and concerned of radical Religious people running the government and oppressing others.
2. He does not support legislation to stop “illegal” immigration, which is one of the primary reasons over the past 25 years of “illegal immigration” we have had a significant increase in low income families, families that qualify for 8A and families that asked for and recieved sub-prime loans that they then defaulted on, causing this huge market crisis we are living in today. With an influx of 40 million “illegal” immigrants in the past 25 years and 12 million “illegal” immigrants currently, that is a lot of opportunity for “illegal” behavior to affect our financial health and welfare.
The republicans that joined the democratic party in voting for Obama like myself, are the financial conservatives, concerned about religious fanaticism in government, and greed within the religious fanatical community that doesn’t read enough scripture to understand they are wrong to be doing what they are doing (hating others not like themselves).
I too agree with AWCheney, the last great Republican president was Ronald Reagan, and he advocated for a free market, not control of the market by major corporations and failed policy making.
I belive Obama will actually “think” about the countries problems and do what is necessary after he has used his very talented mind and sought the advice of experts to “do what is right” rahter than just what he is passionate about emotionally.
1. We do need a national catastrophic healh care system for everyone, so catastrophy does not destroy the financial health of otherwise financially healthy families. I believe Obama will give us that.
2.We do not need Roe V Wade overturned, Individual rights are more important than states rights. I believe Obama will appoint supreme court judges that will not overturn Roe V. Wade.
3, We do need fiscal reform from greedy corporations and fanatical religious people controlling government. I believe Obama will create conditions in Congress and the Senate for that fiscal reform, using free market guidelines, and taxing only the necessary taxes to solve the health care and social security crisis, and now the financial crisis. Since it is the richest 2% of the country that caused this financial collapse by greed, it needs to be the richest 2% that pays for it, not the middle class and not the poorest in the country.
4. If we want to maintain a high standard of living in all of our communities, we need to transfer some wealth (in the form of higher wages), to the 80% of the people who own houses less than 300-400K. What does it really mean for excessively overcompensated people to be even more excessively compensated *by personal greed” if all they neighborhoods they drive through are “sal paulo” slums. The excessively rich should be taxed to help the excessively poor, that is good for the entire country, good for each community and good for America, it is a religious concept that is also good for every religious person except the fanatical and greedy religious person who wants to oppress others not like themselves. I believe Obama will seek a high standard of living for all commujnities, not just the poor, by putting an appropriate level of responsibility on the 2% of excessively compensated Americans as a civic and honorable duty.
5. Any “skinhead’ that harms Obama is removing the one person in this world at the moment that has the ability to not think like a specific ethnic, gender, racial, or religious group, and actually is the one person who can save us all from our personal hatred of others we don’t trust because we have different cultures and lifestyles. I belive Obama is capable of going beyond hatred and motivating people to think and see everyone as “individuals”. Any “skinhead who harms another, or anyone who has demonstrated the ability to work with others not like himself” is no better than any other “ethnic gang member” or “criminal ethnic mafia”.
6. I believe Obama will actually promote “legal immigration”, maintain quotas consistant with good fiscal policy, and actually stop “illegal” immigration. I think he has the brains to reason “illegality” through it core problems and ability to understand the bad consequences of continuing to allow it to harm everyone in the “majority” harmed by “illegal” immigration. When I hear his speeches I hear his ability to wait and see what the facts are before he takes the appropriate action onn the issue of “illegality”. He has never supported “illegal” immigrants, or opening the border.
To all you skinheads who hold anger, think twice before you harm this man, you may be cutting off your own future ability to be free from hatred and criminal thinking and have all the people you hold dear (your families) be respected.
A lot of food for thought, Michael. Thanks for all that you said; I spotted a lot of hope in it, and that is a good thing. I have been so depressed by all the recent vandalism, threats, and slurs brought up on the other blog, etc., that it is good to be reminded of some of great reasons to vote for Obama.
michael, 27. October 2008, 20:30
“I belive Obama will actually “think” about the countries problems and do what is necessary after he has used his very talented mind and sought the advice of experts to “do what is right” rahter than just what he is passionate about emotionally.”
Sorry Michael, but you and I definitely part company on this one. I consider four years of Obama as a great deal more dangerous to the fabric of this country than four years of McCain. You are forgetting the incredible power which now exists in the hands of the Executive Branch thanks to 9/11 and the Bush Administration. If nothing else, you don’t want that kind of power in the hands of someone of so little experience who has not even been able to develop a decent record for ATTENDANCE in his single, incomplete term in the US Senate. That alone should give anyone pause!
Michael, I hope someone with more patience will respond to your not very cute attempt to blame immigration for the financial crisis. I just don’t know where to begin on that one, except to say that you are in a very, very small minority on that one.
Maybe Shelly B, I’m a minority because the “majority” does not yet understand the process, the cause and effect or the facts of sub-prime demographics, but there is no doubt the number of sub-prime mortgages that defaulted were made and defaulted in the lower 20-30% of the income bracket the loans were made to. It is also evidenced that the greatest number of most recent homeowners and those who defaulted came from a segment of the population that was once illegal (some 40 million people) and from some (not many) who are still illegal some 12 million people. I am saying only that the beginning and root cause of the falsly represent RISK in sub-prime loans that created the sub-prime crisis (the defaults and the situations that caused defaults had a significant “formerly illegal” component.) I am not saying any of those “former illegals” came from any specific country, they came from many and all countries, but they also significantly contributed to the “speculative bubble” and were the most likely to just walk away with no penalties.
The rest of the problem came from the packaging of those loans and the 8A laws that were passed by some Senators who forced the issue of giving 8A and low income family loans to people that could not afford it (obama being unwisely part of that group of Senators). The collapse of the economy then came from the greed of the people who speculated on what those packaged products were worth without knowing the RISK of such loans, when the only information they had to assess the worth or risk of those loans was in most cases, falsified income and debt statements. The FBI investigations into this will eventually bring to light the demographics and the criminals associated with such a massive default and wide scale fraud in the banking and mortgage industry.
My assessment comes from preliminary FBI facts coming out into the public domain.
Be very clear I’m not blaming the financial crisis on “Immigration”. I’m blaming the financial crisis in large part (not all but in large part) on “illegal” immigration, because it is “illegality” that set up the bubble and population growth conditions and demand for housing that created the sub-prime “bubble”.
I am not against immigration. I am only against “illegal” immigration and the negative impact of it on our financial security and national security.
AW, I paused too, but after looking at the BIO’s of each candidate to assess their CHARACTER, Obama is the smarter and more responsible of the two by far. I agree with Colin Powell on this one, Obama will be better for the nation’s future than John McCain for all the reasons Colin Powell gave for why he is voting for him. (Powell is also a great thinking man of the same caliber as Obama, and far superior to John McCain)
Go buy the Bio’s (CDs) for each candidate at “Best Buy” or one of several “bookstores”, and after you see both of them, and assess the fundamental character and level of intelligence each candidate has, I’ll bet any person worried about ethics, responsibility, fanatical religious problems, croynism and “insider” goverment, will likely vote for Obama. If you want a “smart” president rather than another bumbling “Bush” you will vote against McCain and for Obama, they are not even in the same league.
If you are concerned for the poor, and don’t mind the top 2% of the excessively compensated being taxed to create a national catastrophic health care system, you will also likely make a decison to vote for OBAMA after seeing the lifestyles, personal decisions and ethical character of each candidate compared objectively in their public Bio’s.
I call it the way I see it, based on facts I have, just like you do. I don’t likely have your facts and you may not have mine.
ShellyB, my comments are never meant to be cute, they are an honest assessment of the information I have and my best understanding of the reality behind the veil of “emotional issues”.
Michael, I’ll give you a pass on that one since we have been agreeing and that seems to make people happy. I believe you when you say you draw a distinction between immigration and the problem of having so many folks undocumented and living in the shadows. In any case we’ll need to fix our immigration system.
Michael, you can’t assume people who foreclosed are “criminals”! Do you have any idea how many of the working class were forced into similar situations? And there’s not proof of how many “illegals” bought loans. Are you a loan officer? (I don’t buy the, “I heard it from my friends” thing either.)
There is no way immigration crashed the economy. The banks, the lenders, the developers did this to us, not the little guy trying to get into homes which were WAY over priced! A Cape Cod in Yorkshire for $500,000? Come on.
Your assertions contribute to the scapegoating of immigrants and the poor. Are YOU poor? Have you studied poverty and listened to the poor? If not, then you can’t really speak credibly on the issue. (No offense meant by any of this.)
Go on over to the Dark Screen to see some more Skinheads. Then report it to the police. Just in case.
Poor Corey Stewart. Just my observation, but it seems he’s lately been clamoring desperately to get the spotlight back; a spotlight which he had last year when championing an “anti-illegal immigration” platform but which now has totally abandoned him. We recently witnessed his antics when he was at the V.O.I.C.E. conference when he made the controversial comment about abortion (controversial because abortion wasn’t even a topic for discussion at that conference; his mention of it was an attention-getting maneuver, nothing more).
It’s the Tancredo Effect: sudden jump on a national hot item issue in order to gain political attention; jump turns out to be right off a steep cliff because the “hotness” of the issue cooled swiftly since it was a mere flash in the pan and therefore temporary; as such, the attention is also temporary. Tancredo used the issue to run for President; it failed miserably; now he’s pretty much disappeared into the political ether, and no one hears from him anymore. “Tancredo who?” Exactly. Replace “Tancredo” with “Stewart” and add whatever political agenda, and it’s pretty much the same story.
Corey Stewart’s over-investment in his own ego is his downfall. And now that his stocks have tanked and his capital gone, he’s desperate. A genuine shame, not only on a political level, but on a basic human level.
Oh, and reading his comments about how upset he was at not getting enough attention when McCain visited (because, of course, it was all about Corey Stewart?), all I can say is: what a total crybaby.