Rod Stewart tells us that the ‘First Cut is the Deepest.’ Corey Stewart tells us that cuts will be ‘deep’ and ‘painful’.
The News and Messenger highlighted part of yesterday’s BOCS meeting but concentrated on Chairman Stewart’s State of the County Address. Excerpts include:
As part of his “state of the county address,” Stewart talked of Prince William’s unusual circumstances in comparison with surrounding jurisdictions.
“Last year, when other major localities in the region hoped for the best, we prepared for the worst,” he said.And as a result, Prince William differs from other communities in that budget shortfalls were not felt in this current fiscal year, and taxes are not planned to increase in the coming fiscal year. Still, he said, challenges are coming.
“[Our] work has just begun,” Stewart said, “[and] 2009 will present the toughest fiscal challenge this board or this county has ever faced. Declining home values and
shrinking sales tax and other revenues means a projected shortfall in the next fiscal year of $190 million. This problem is compounded by the substantial cuts expected from the General Assembly.”The work for the upcoming budget season will focus mainly on cuts: “The cuts will be deep. The cuts will be painful. But the cuts mean that … this board shall deliver a tax cut to all of you at home,” he said.
Stewart touted some of the county’s perceived successes of the past year — deporting more than 1,300 illegal aliens; implementing an illegal immigration policy that’s being copied by other communities; building roads in the face of transportation budget shortfalls and cuts; creating a housing assistance program for government employees that “helps reduce the oversupply of unsold homes” and foreclosures.
How can Corey Stewart not think budget shortfalls are not being felt this current year? Has he been in a school? That might be a good place to start.
He announced, with great pride, that there would be not tax increases. Now, does this sound like a smart move to make? Don’t most people want to live in a county where there are services, libraries, police, fire and rescue, parks? Perhaps he does notunderstands what we are facing.
Perhaps he might want to hold off on that promise not to raise taxes. No new taxes bit Daddy Bush in the butt. The same might happen to Daddy Stewart. Why would anyone want a tax break now, when county employees will soon be laid off in droves and services will disappear.
Stewart also labors under the impression that 1,300 illegal criminal aliens were deported. I would feel more confident had he explained that they were picked up by ICE. Actually, we have no idea what happened to them once ICE got them and we certainly have no knowledge that they were deported.
What localities are modeling us? Most localities see that we have the most foreclosures of any jurisdiction in the state and cross their index fingers in that manner that wards off vampires. Who would want to copy us?
Did ADC Superintendent Pete Meletis not tell the BOCS that many of our ‘deportees’ had been re-arrested in Prince William County or Manassas? It makes one wonder what our ‘return rate’ really is. Someone needs to refresh Mr. Stewart’s memory.
Perhaps some of the readers will be willing to comment on the committee report. That seemed like a lot people just wasted their time. Chairman Stewart appeared to be doing a lot of eye rolling.
On a very pleasant note, Brentsville Supervisor Wally Covington was elected Vice Chairman of the BOCS.
Please let us know your impressions of the meeting if you watched, attended, listened on the audio or have inside information.
Thanks TPWB for that update. I hate to say it but if Corey thinks he can bolster his political career by cutting taxes, the 11th high school is a long way off. Corey = opportunism.
WHWN is not the only linguist that can decode the Corey Stewart Spin Machine. I interpreted it the same way watching it live. Everything that comes out of his mouth is meant to deceive the public in one way or another. He governs as if he is running for reelection, and talks that way too. Hopefully he’ll have an opponent who will call him on his lies.
So is there really no budget shortfall? Did I read Corey’s lips right? No new taxes and no budget shortfall? Wowsers! I guess we’ll be living in the wild, wild west pretty soon.
Alanna, I’m pretty sure I recall “Stirrup’s Mom” from the thread where Stirrup had called you a some kind of derogatory term coined by Gospel Greg. I forgot which one. But that means she is either a staffer or and HSM’er. Funny how the gospel flows from Gospel Greg, to “Weasel John” Stirrup and Crackdown Corey, to “Mom” and the rest of the HSM groupies.
Lighten up folks, it’s called politics…….at the local level. Lets look at the BIG picture. The PWC citizens elected him, so get over it, but then I guess none of you voted for Nixon either. The citizens voted for Obama also, so be careful what you wish for!
SA, ahem….some of us voted for Nixon. Did you?
Voting for someone doesn’t end your involvement. You have to stick around to cheer them on when they do a good job or boo and hiss at them when they screw up. Or, if you voted for Nixon, to wear a paper bag over your head so no one can see your embarrassed red face.
PWC citizens were duped in my opinion. And no, I won’t get over it. I am not sure about Nixon either but at least I voted for him, unlike Corey.
Well, well, well, it would appear that Corey doesn’t have a monopoly on spin machines. Shelly, Twinad and WHWN, I think you need to revisit your blog histories, given that I have gone after Corey, Stirrup, Wally, Maureen, Jenkins, Marty, Connaughton, Gerhardt, Marty, Le”twit”, HSM, Wood, and even Chris, it is highly unlikely that I could be cast as one of Stirrup’s staff, cronies or an HSMer. About the only ones that I haven’t had reason to criticize yet are May and Prinicipi and that is only because they haven gored one of my oxen, yet.
Shelly, you ask why I’m “obsessing” over semantics, well, when it comes to actions by the Board and particularly Supervisor Nohe, its all about semantics. He doesn’t strike me as one who is not generally very careful with his wording. Thus, one must consider that his statement during Supervisor’s time must have been made with at least a modicum of forethought and intent. Further, even if he had no specific intent or gave it any real forethought, the mere fact that he made the statement requires that he own it and deal with any criticism that come as a result, that is responsible governance is it not.
That having been said, Mr. Nohe initial response to my criticism was obfuscation, a response that was neither suprising nor unexpected. When called on the substance of the response Mr. Nohe resorted to further red herrings and using a personal tragedy as a smokescreen. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised but I find that particular tactic bush league and disrespectful (cue massive attack on my insensitivity) given that circumstances weren’t distracting enough to forestall taking a public position and in my view a shot at the Planning Commission, likely at the behest of the Chamber of Commerce.
For once I agree with SA (BTW, your response all but confirms you ARE Kopko), it is all about politics and if one doesn’t have a thick enough skin or doesn’t want to answer for one’s statements then I would suggest public office is the wrong choice for a career or manner of public service.
Do the Planning Commission and their boards have recorded and archived files online like the BOCS and School Board do? If not, they should. Residents have no idea what goes on in those meetings unless they attend every one. In fact, I happen to know some of their meetings took place in a van a few years ago. How much public input was considered in THAT meeting, do you think?
MOM, you can know there have been major changes to a document without reading the actual document. Don’t you think there are general discussions on these things? While Mr. Nohe’s comments might have been vague, he doesn’t strike me as dishonest. I don’t think he deserves a pop quiz on the report.
I’m not sure why you are out to get Supervisor Nohe, but it sounds rather personal.
Point of clarification – Did the Chair say he would not increase the tax rate or he would not increase the tax bill. BIG difference.
You know, the attempted outing of someone who isn’t posting under their real name is something that ought to be discouraged on this blog. It seems to be happening a lot lately, or people guessing at alternate userids (sometimes guessing WRONG but posting it as TRUTH). I don’t think it is right, unless under a blog’s charter or policy it specifically said that user’s waive their right to anonymity. That includes anything about that user that is not in his postings, IP addresses, sex, etc. I’m sorry, I just don’t think it is right, and Mom’s posting above trying to say she believes SA is Tom Kopko (and who knows if it is so or not or she is just guessing but she posted she thinks now the evidence is in that it is) is definitely NOT a right thing to do in my opinion. Sorry, this is a personal hot button of mine after I was unfairly linked to other id’s, and one frequent poster (that person kows who they are) even recently posted that as truth.
If this practice doesn’t stop, or isn’t highly discouraged on this blog – I may stop posting here. Maybe some will be happy about that – but for this blog – I wouldn’t want to run a blog where people give up their right to anonymity – I don’t think there are very many blogs out there with that policy. If those blogs do exist, I for one wouldn’t post to them or even browse them, for fear of them exposing even readers of the blog.
Juturna-
That’s a good question. It also goes back to WHWN’s discussion of last year’s “whopping tax hike,” and “gutting of county services.” Is he/she talking about the increase in the tax rate, or the bills? As I recall, the bills didn’t go up by too much last year, but the rate did. If there was, in fact, a “whopping tax hike,” then we would not have seen a “gutting of county services,” because the county would have had much more money coming in from the tax hike to pay for services.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree that Stewart is always spinning. However, WHWN may be doing the same thing. On the other hand, he/she may be referring to the even higher additional tax hike that Stewart and some others on the Board supported to pay for their pet project (illegal immigration) that was defeated. I suppose that could be called a “whopping tax hike.” Perhaps a little clarification is in order here, WHWN.
Whether she is Stirrup’s Mom, Stewart’s Mom, or someone else, she certainly seems to be a long-time reader of this blog. I’m still confused because Mom’s attacks are indeed personal and don’t seem to have anything to do with county government, or our role as citizens in county government. If the reason is personal, then it’s a yawn.
But if there is something in that document that Mom is acting to protect, then I want to know what it is (Public Hearing please). And, I also want to know in WHO’s interest Mom is attacking. That’s why the question is relevant Gainesville Resident. I don’t need to out Mom, but I would like to know who’s Mom she is.
Also. In who’s interest would it be NOT to have a Public Hearing?
Look, people are going to be less willing to trust their leaders in this day and age. And, if you lived in PWC during both the Bush administration and the Corey Stewart debacle, you have double the reason to be watchful for major screw ups and/or lies.
This fear of government secrecy is in a lot of ways a lingering result of way the Immigration Resolution was incubated in the secret meetings of Help Save Manassas and FAIR (before FAIR had been classified as an anti-immigrant hate group but still). And then, it was sprung on the non-HSM Supervisors, and the county attorney, and the county executive. And then, it was voted on with out giving county staff time to research the legal issues, pubic safety issues, or policy options. And, worst of all, there was NO PUBLIC HEARING.
That said, this thing with “Mom” is probably nothing like that. But people are sensitive when we have anonymous agents advocating against a Public Hearing, particularly using personal attacks to do so. We deserve to know what the issue is here, and who on our Board is arguing which side.
We know that Marty Nohe wants a Public Hearing. It looks like someone else on the Board does not. Well then? Who????
Re. guessing true identities:
I think the real problem is that we’ve developed a frightening subculture in PWC that makes people afraid to speak in public. People have stopped going to Citizens Time because hate is scary.
We don’t say our addresses at Citizens Time anymore. Know why? The disturbing threats posted against Elena in the Washington Post online comments, complete with her home address, by people who championed the Immigration Resolution and were angered by Elena’s speaking out about how we needed to change it.
That’s just not how it’s supposed to be.
I don’t know if that means we should stop guessing people’s identities or not. But in the past when M-H said stop, I have stopped.
NGL, the answer IMHO is not really one regarding openess, the crux of who does or does not want a public hearing depends largely on their (or their “supporters”) position with regard to intial land use plan put forth by the LUAC.
That version is what was presented to the Planning Commission and held over for TWO meetings worth of public hearings, a relatively unusual circumstance in and of itself. Shelly, no need to worry, a lot of people took interest in the initial public hearings and may actually took the time to show up and wait hours to speak, so any suggestion that the revised plan was crafted without significant public input would be incorrect. For what its worth, all should also consider that the contents of the LUAC plan have been discussed ad nauseum online, at various supervisors meeting and debated at the public forum held by The Committee of 100.
Now back to the question of who wants more hearings before the Planning Commission, my money is on several developers, VRE and the Chamber of Commerce. For those unfamiliar with the earlier public hearings, the Chamber orchestrated a large number of speakers to be first in line to speak in favor of the LUAC’s version. In fact, as I recall, although they spoke in favor of the published plan they also asked for unlimited flexibility to build whatever and wherever they chose. I don’t suppose its any secret that I found that version and their vision to be merely a continuation of business as usual in PWC, namely, gross overdevelopment with no overarching plan, no infrastructure improvements and no funding for infrastructure, a view that seemed to be shared by all but the members of the Chamber.
My guess is that no one expected the Planning Commission to gut the most onerous aspects of the LUAC plan and place a more limited focus on the redevelopment of the Route 1 and Yorkshire corridors. Given that this limited scope was a component of the original LUAC plan, the Planning Commission version is not an entirely new plan but rather the original one with a more limited scope. In short, fewer “new” development opportunities for developers and less “flexibility” for the Chamber. With regard to VRE’s interest, given that they jumped the gun and based their Tier 1 Analysis of the proposed extension on the LUAC plan, as provided by a County staff member, the elimination of the Centers of Commerce/Community invalidates many of the underlying premises of that analysis.
The long and the short of it is that a call for more public hearing is likely merely a tactic to prolong the process and allow opponents of the revised plan to marshall their forces and formulate a strategy.
Nobody should believe that I don’t want the process to be public, but IMHO, the process is proceeding on the proper course. A plan was drafted, hours of public hearings were held, the plan was amended as a result of public input and the revised plan forwarded to the Board. That is how the system is supposed to work. Those with problems with the plan still have another shot at the apple as the Board has to schedule at least one more hearing before they take action on the plan. As I stated earlier, at that point they don’t even have to take action on it, they could find it unacceptable or incomplete and return it to the Planning Commission for more work.
Mom,
Your comments for the most part were accurate. Unfortunately, there was not a direct attack using outrageous names or disparaging remarks about Chairmen Stewart or Supervisor Stirrup or their family members in your comments. This is why they are not “feeling the love” on this site with your comments. Good try!
The Watch Commander for the Anti-Bvbl police department’s “Morals Division” had to take action.
Supervisor Nohe is the perfect politician for the Anti-Rule of Law crowd.
elitestliberals,
No one here who is a regular has attacked Stewart or Stirrup’s family members. Please stick to the truth.
I believe, having done some further investigation, Marty Nohe is on the right track regarding some other issues within the comp plan amendments that were made AFTER the public hearing was closed. Although I agree wholeheartedly that the Centers of Community are a travesty, apparently there are some very “odious” requirements for the redevelopment of route 1 that are also just as much a travesty!
That is AWESOME news TBWB!!!! I am glad to hear that the school construction has been approved 🙂
Gainesville, that is going to happen on a blog where controversy is discussed and people use monikers. Your other situation we agreed to bury. As I recall, it was done to defend you from a troll who wanted to attack you.
We have no policy and I suppose right now it should be stated that no one guarantees anonymity on any blog, including this one. An unwritten, unstated policy seems to be that private citizens are more protected than people who are serving in a public capacity.
I am not going to reprimand MOM for a public guess. I could say SA is Corey Stewart or Chief Skinner. It doesn’t make it so. And by the way, when did I get chosen to be the blog manners cop? I fear your answers….
I think the bottom line is, if you harrass, bait, heckle, torment and pick continually at other users or specific users, you could get outted. If you disagree, that’s fine, but be polite about it. I hope this clarifies and please know that this is an opinion only not stated or written policy. Alanna may come along right behind me and issue a decree that countermands what I just offered as an opinion.
elitistliberal,
From what I recall, the worst that’s been said is that Stirrup’s child won’t be carrying around her birth certificate in the glove box. And, that Corey’s blond haired, blue-eyed wife won’t be targeted in any immigrant crackdown. That’s as far as I have gone on the subject matter.
In terms of Centers of Communities or LUAC, I’m not in favor of it. I’ve originally applauded Stirrup for asking for an investigation. I’ve since come to learn it was Bob Marshall that provided him with this idea. But so what.
I don’t see eye-to-eye with any single person on all issues. Let me remind you, it was Mr. Nohe that cast the deciding vote on the Duecaster appointment.
What is disappointing about you, is how downright nasty you’ve been to Elena, myself and whomever else happens to hold a differing opinion on the subject matter. Additionally, I am disturbed about comments that you’ve made against legal Hispanics that don’t even involve the undocumented.
Those 2 statements are NOT attacks on family members.
NGL,
I believe Mom is an aconym, not really meant as someone’s mom. Whomever Mom is, they do understand government, are protectors of the Rural Crescent, and can often see the travesty of our government “process” here in PWC. On Marty though, there does seem to be a personal issue, not sure why.
Elitistliberal,
I find it interesting when the dark screen continually attacks the “anti women” for weight issues, or calls their children anchor babies, or says that my husband bought me a device that creates power outages, where, where is your “outrage” posted over there ? No one has ever attacked anyones children here “elitestliberal”, but we sure have been personally attacked over on a site, that for some unknowable reason, you still find aliegance with, I don’t understand, never will. Furthmore, the comp plan amemdment process is very complicated, it requires going through it with a fine tooth comb, something I have not done yet, so I would not feel comfortable commenting on all the facets cotained therein. However, upon just a brief investigation, it appears as though my fellow citizens on the East end are getting a shoddy deal, and if that is true, then that deserves a thorough review before ANY plan is passed.
Gainesvile – OK, but since the time we agreed to forget about the other incident way in the past, someone in one thread wanted to know if I was the same person as another userid, and I’ve seen a rash of people on here trying to guess who people are. Fortunately no one answered the person who posed the question about me, and I chose to ignore it rather than address that person.
Anyway, I’ll drop it. While I suppose no blog can guarantee complete anonymity, to implicity condone it, and based on the trend I’ve observed on here in the past week or two, and what’s gone on in the past, I find it disturbing. That’s all I say on this matter for now. However, if someone else on here makes any more speculation about me, or tries to reveal exactly where I lived before, or anything else personal about me, or misinformatino about me (as one of the more frequent posters here did very recently – and again that person knows who they are) I’m out of here.
I meant to say “While I suppose no blog can guarantee complete anonymity, HOWEVER to implicity condone it, ….” Without the added word it is a confusing sentence, and still probably is way too long for one sentence. Oh well.
Gainesville, I think I am the one who first asked you a question that linked you up to someone else. I apologize. I actually meant it as a Hi how are you, have things changed type of question.
No one says anyone has to answer someone else or answer any personal questions.
Just a suggestion…when you say I am out of here if….that just invites someone to dangle out a question. I wouldn’t make those kinds of statements. Just do it if you feel you have to, although I hope you don’t. I have enjoyed solving the world’s problems with you. Now, if they would only listen to Gainesville and M-H, think how much easier they would have it! I am still working on that article. It is very good. I already have my favorite quote from it….but I need having to deal with blog issues. whine!
OK, MH. Actually there was someone else who was trying to link me with another userid. In any event, I guess it isn’t so important.
That is a looong article I referred you to – it took me awhile to read it and I had to take several breaks and come back to it. It sure has a lot of good info on it and a lot of different perspectives from the different countries, world leaders, etc. I learned a lot from it. There’s a lot of interesting quotes in there. Glad you are enjoying reading it – it is indeed well worth the effort to read.
How about this for a solution, if you attack an elected official for reasons that don’t make any sense, do an post script that explains why you did it. “I support rival politician X,” for instance. Or, “I support cutting program X.”
Elena is correct when she says, “I believe Mom is an aconym, not really meant as someone’s mom.” In fact, I do not believe that it has ever been established that “MOM” is anyone’s mother or even that “MOM” is female.
Those who have been blogging in Prince William County for a while may recall that “MOM” is an acronym for “Marty’s Oversized Melon”. Long before this blog was launched, this anonymous individual frequently posted on other blogs under the name “Marty’s Oversized Melon” and often peppered her comments with disparaging remarks about Supervisor Nohe’s appearance, specifically implying that she did not like his haircut.
As I remember it, Marty himself had a sense of humor about the whole thing and actually made jokes about it on “Too Conservative” but a lot of people were offended by it .
I do not remember when or why she switched to “MOM”, but I think it has something to do with some blog administrator banning ad hominem attacks in all posts and then deleting all of the her posts because of that rule.
Anon, well that is a history lesson for sure. Thanks for filling everyone in and I hope those good senses of humor about all this are still activated. I don’t want to have to break up a brawl 😉
Aww come on! Mr. Nohe has that cute look about him. Most politicians can’t say THAT!
http://luxuriouschoices.blogspot.com/2009/01/marty-nohes-mysterious-past.html
I do remember telling Bruce Roemmelt that he’s a big teddy bear. He said that might be a good platform for run on…..
“to run on” that is.
Gainesville, I have to go rescue the Hamas/Israel thread again. It got swallowed up again….rolled right on off page 1. I had to go out and lost the article.
Hmmm,
Mom, having been attacked for my appearence, I wonder if you might be willing to change your “moniker” for anti. If I reprimand people for doing it to me, it would be hypocritical if I didn’t suggest to you that insulting someone based on their appearance is not very nice.
MH – OK, thanks for keeping that thread on the front page. I guess that’s the 2nd time you’ve bumped it up in order to keep it on the front page.
Thanks for the update, anon.
I guess that explains it and we don’t have to wonder what the beef is. The beef is nohting.
The best way to define “Mom” is “random, wordy, and of no merit or purpose other than just to attack.” That’s what ad hominem attack means, right? Elena, don’t make him/her change the name. This way we’ll know when we see Mom comments that they amount to little other than some daft vendetta.
Well Shelly B, the thing is, Mom has many great points regarding land use issues and problems within our county process. I am not willing to dismiss what mom says, but I am hopeful that she will change her name so that instead of being distracted by the moniker, we can instead focus on some of the more relevant points made. Having said that, I believe that mom may be missing some of the newest updates to the comp plan, made AFTER the public hearing was closed. THAT little tid bit is concerning to me. How are citizens suppose to comment on amendments that came to fruition behind closed doors? Marty is right on to demand more hearings.
For all we know, MOM means M-O-M. Or his name might be Marvin Oscar Marshall. Or she might be a woman with 10 kids. Unless MOM tells us his/her moniker means what anon suggested, should we take exception? Should we assume a story someone else shares is actually why the name MOM exists? The person who related the story is anonymous, so we cannot even verify the story.
Just my opinion……
Elena, thanks for explaining the reason new public hearings are needed. Are the updates available to the public? How can we find out what they are?
What an interesting trip down memory lane, I had forgotten much of what happened so I had to go back through old postings I could find. The genesis of “MOM” was indeed “Marty’s Oversized Melon” and although somewhat crass, the circumstances under which that was created are important. Although I don’t recall (and can’t find the specifics) I do remember that it started on TC and evolved at a time when the body parts of numerous contributors and elected officials were incorporated into monikers. That’s not an excuse but I would suggest that the one I chose was far less colorful than ones such as “Marty’s Hairy Earlobe” or the numerous, nearly profane ones describing James Young’s privates.
To be honest Marty was a sport about it and as evidenced by a thread in which we/he joked about his choice of barbers. Regardless, after a period of time I abandoned the original moniker both because it had lost its relevance and because another individual had hijacked it and posted several disturbing anti-Catholic posts.
No, my comments were not deleted because of the moniker, rather, they were deleted because the subject matter revolved around questions of TC’s ethics regarding his website and Connaughton’s bid for the Lieutenant Governor, questions raised by the Jaded JD and not myself.
Quite frankly its been about four years and for the sake of consistency I believe I will continue to post under MOM as its genesis is almost irrelevant at this time.
Back to the issue of public hearings, I don’t disagree that the process needs to be as open as possible and public hearings are necessary. That having been said, the process requirements have been fulfilled in this instance and the plan forwarded to the BOCS. That does not mean that there are not additional issues, but the public will have the opportunity to address those issues at the next stage in the process and if the BOCS is unsatisfied with the product delivered, can still amend it or return it to the PC or staff for further work.
But mom,
There were additions made AFTER the public hearing was closed,like a “no proffer zone” in the route 1 corrider amoung other new rules. Don’t you think the public ought to have a voice?
Honestly, I can go either way on this. The PC has technically fulfilled its function and the public still has the opportunity to comment at the next phase. You could also have another round of public hearings but at what level of amendment do you stop scheduling new hearings, if every change required a new hearing the plan would likely never get completed. In any event, the PC is essentially an advisory committee and nothing that has been done to date is binding.
I must admit I’m not used to being pleased with an amendment made after the PC hearing as too often the amendments come as a result of staff action and blindside me (and often the PC) at the BOCS level. Although I don’t believe anyone has been blindsided by this, it is somewhat amusing to see the shoe on the other foot.
Alanna,
Why comment on John Stirrups “blond haired child” in the first place, or create a thread dedicated to Corey Stewart”s wife, who is not a public figure? I thought discussing families was off limits on this site? It is one thing to create a blog site to discuss the actions of political figures you don’t agree with, it is another to put up a thread about someone’s wife, so she can become the topic of discussion. How do you plan on spinning this one Alanna?
elitestliberals,
Obviously, you didn’t read the article or you know the thread was not about Corey Stewart’s wife. More guilty party syndrome. GPS! Nothing was said uncomplimentary about Mr. Stirrup’s child. It was reference to those of us who appear to be very anglo.
What I am going to ask is if the same consideration has been shown to Alanna’s family? Her children? Her husband? Herself? I have read some of the ugliest rhetoric over Alanna that I have ever read over anyone. And you know where it comes from.
And before you mention it, Corey Stewart’s children were not discussed here either. A reader put up where those kids went to school. The purpose was to point out that his children weren’t in public school. Alanna saw it, immediately removed it, end of story.
Steve Thomas’s address? Immediate removal. No one asked for it to happen, Alanna took it down. It is a mystery who planted that one on here.
Care to explain the 100 or so nasty comments I have seen on other blogs and newspaper blogs about the 3 administrators? How about the ones stuck in moderation here that belong on a porno shelf they are so vile and disgusting? Your friends, not ours.
Spare me your false outrage!
Elististliberal,
Certainly there was never, and has never been, any disparaging comments directed at John’s beautiful daughter or Corey’s wife, who is as kind as she is pretty. The threads that you are referencing simply demonstrated analogies about racial profiling and FAIR’s determination to stop ALL immigration, legal and otherwise. Once again, I wonder, why are you so interested in the conversations here as opposed to the utter disgusting comments made over on BVBL, your energies might be more useful there.
Elistist liberal — I am forever telling people I posted the comment about where Stewarts children attended school to indicate that they were in private school. By the by, I have no issue with private schools, frankly I am kicking myself for not having my child continue HS in private schools!!
So – I had no agenda just making a point.
YOU ALL NEED TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT I MADE THAT POST AND STOP MAKING IT SEEM LIKE SOMETHING IT WASN”T. MOVE ON. FIND OTHER FAULTS – if you can.
There is NO possible comparison of ANTI to BVBL. Beat the dog food thread if you can. Or calling children cockroaches. Let’s work on comparables to those two and only those two.
I think there’s a difference between innocuous teasing and outright meanness. Calling women “fat broads,” for example, is sexist in addition to being cruel. I put that in the same category as calling immigrants “vermin.” People who feel they have to do this have a problem. That doesn’t make it acceptable, however.
On the other hand, Elena, I think if you are going to ask MOM to change his/her name, you are going to have to ask Slowpoke Rodriguez and a couple of others to do the same. Do you want to go down that road? I’m just wondering.