167 Thoughts to “WP: Stay at Home Moms (featuring Elena, Katherine & Myself)”

  1. Juturna

    Huh??? Isn’t that whay you said here:

    NotGregLeteicq, 2. January 2009, 10:34
    Not only is Captain Hate Man seething, he sent out an email alert asking people to post anti-immigrant comments on the WaPo thread.

  2. NotGregLeteicq

    Lafayette, don’t take it personally with the guy who wee-weed. Maybe he is just losing his marbles. If it becomes a public spat, it can get out of hand. Exhibit one: Chris “Bitter Boy” Royse. Exhibit two: John “Appoint A Raving Lunatic To The Human Services Board To Prove I’m Not A Racist” Stirrup.

  3. NotGregLeteicq

    Juturna, my apologies, I read it on another blog but I don’t know if it is true. Back in his heyday, Gospel Greg was always sending out emails like this. But I’m not getting them anymore. I assume he is still sending them but has refined his list.

  4. Juturna

    Rats. I read your comment to mean you knew he did it. Which blog?

  5. Fontbonne

    Great article, ladies. Congratulations.

    (I hope your husbands don’t mind if I say that you’re both very lovely.)

  6. Rick Bentley

    “You have to call the police while public urination is still happening.”

    That was pretty much their approach when someone broke into my car and stripped it for parts too …

  7. Lafayette

    NotGL,
    Oh, I don’t think he’s loosing his marbles. He’s quite capable of carrying on a conversation and driving a vehicle. I think he’s just a country boy that wishes he were in the country and not in suburbia. Again, this is NOT the first time I’ve seen this man do this! I will not get in a spat with my neighbors. I will talk to him, as will others in my family that live on Lafayette.
    Chris

  8. NotGregLeteicq

    I’m not sure. But perhaps we are robbing ourselves of an opportunity when we dismiss them as clones of Gospel Greg.

    I think there is a deeper reason they clones all sound the same. It’s a formula that stems from way before the immigration issue became the rallying cry of the way-out-there wacko fringe right.

    When they were talking about Freedom Fries and invading Iraq “because they attacked us first,” they were very careful to stick to the same formula. It started with the extremist jingoism confusing love of Republican politicians for love of country. In both cases, a “patriot” was someone who advocated an extreme right wing position, and a “traitor” or “aider and abettor” was anyone who said, “Wait a second is that wise?”

    Remember “with us or against us?” It’s sort of the same mantra. They just rolled it from invading Iraq into turning the United States into an anti-immigration police state.

  9. NotGregLeteicq

    Oh, and Freedom Fries? That was a way of punishing French people by not mentioning the word “French” when talking about fried potatoes. Why did they feel it was necessary to punish French people? Because the French government dared to point out that there was no credible intelligence to support the lies that Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld told us to advertise for the war.

  10. Lafayette

    Rick,
    I would be upset about the car getting broke into. The thing that really gets me is I saw with my own two eyes the guilty party of the public urination and trespassing.

    Are we supposed to walk around with video cameras on helmets to record everything in order to get an type of “real response”?

  11. JustinT

    NGL, that’s my point. Letiecq should not get all the credit for indoctrinating his followers. Who is Letiecq other than a follower himself of a much more powerful world view, who happens to have a blog and OCD.

  12. Elena

    What a busy day today! Thanks to all of you for making this the great blog that it is!!!!
    I have yet to read the comments on WAPO and probably won’t! I’d rather read the positive comments here on this blog and believe that better days are ahead for us all. Thanks WHWN, for defending us against the rage.

    BTW, thanks Marty 🙂

  13. Elena

    Oh, I forgot to give a shout out to Kris Nohe! What an awesome quote about the worthiness of stay at homes, THANK YOU Kris!!!!

  14. Moon-howler

    It sounds like the ICE mini Vans on patrol, Lafayette. Maybe you should make a phone call!

  15. Marie

    Congrats Alanna and Elena! Thank you for your hard work, for being positive and for the level-headed input into the community. Thanks for being a voice of reason and giving people a place to express views openly without the retaliation of being banned.

    A big shout also goes out to both Chris and Katherine for their diligence and hard work to make the community a better place.

  16. Lafayette

    MH,
    OMG!! I almost forgot about that! I need a laugh, after fuming over the neighbor. I want to know where was the Neighborhood Watch while this incident took place. I’ve yet to speak to a single person on my block that participates in the NW or was even given the opportunity to decline or accept. Remember, the neighbors had expensive work equipment stolen from the vehicle the same week the blue sign went up.

    Marie,
    Thanks. I will continue to do what I feel is best for our community. I will not give up.

  17. Marie

    Those posters on bvbl sound like they need some prozac or zoloft. They are totally cranked up about the article in the WaPo.

  18. JustinT

    Well Marie, it’s of little wonder they are upset. I imagine they felt like the world was their playground a year ago. Now, their world is an echo chamber.

  19. Lafayette

    Marie,
    Is it the “usual supsects” that are all fired up over on bvbl?

  20. Another post I’d like to share from WaPo:

    If you want our economy to start growing again, if you value the greatest generation and their quality of life, if our national security is important to you, then you should support Comprehensive Immigration Reform, to vastly increase the number of immigrants who can come to this country and replenish our dwindling workforce.

    The social security program depends on having a larger workforce than the ranks of the retired. But with modern medicine, people are living longer. People are having less children than they did during the Baby Boom. And guess what, the Babyboomers are retiring.

    So many of you have fallen prey to a childish scare tactic if you believe that immigrants hurt our economy. They work harder and work longer than we do. They commit less crime than we do. That’s right. Less crime. They use less public services. That’s right. Less. They contribute more in taxes while receiving less.

    When our economy starts to grow again, we will need millions of new workers, and we cannot afford to discriminate about what country they come from, what native tongue they speak, or what color their skin is.

    If you value America, then you must value more than the racial breakdown and white majority that you are accustomed to. You must value and cherish the ideals on which our nation was founded. Inalienable rights that are afforded to all human beings, regardless of whether they annoy you or look funny to you.

    Police officers cannot properly keep us safe from REAL crime if they are saddled with the federal government’s job of immigration and customs. If minority communities perceive the police as protecting whites but not minorities, they will not report crimes. They will go to gang leaders when they want protection instead of the police.

    The Immigration Resolution was a wrong-headed policy foisted upon our county by political opportunists. And these good citizens deserve the accolades they are getting for helping us regain control of our government and set this county on the right course again.

  21. Fontbonne, you are correct. Alanna and Elena are lovely ladies and it’s a lovely photo with all due respect to their husbands.

    Lafayette, could you please tape record your conversation when you confront your incontinent neighbor?

  22. Lafayette

    WHWN,
    I’m sorry to say I don’t have one of those pocket recorders. Hey, speaking of those do you remember that “bright idea” being entertained in lieu of video cameras in the cars? This was before all immigration checks would happen post arrest?

    Maybe, I could use my video camera and make a youtube? I wonder who would be first to post it Red Dawn or Mackie. 🙂

  23. Juturna

    They are cranked up over there. BUT, when posters don’t have facts when criticizing Greggi, it’s not good for ANTI. Please keep that in mind.

    Emma fuming over books. Probably banning/burning is next on the skimpy agenda.

  24. NotGregLetiecq

    This is the most comment activity BVBL has seen in ages. They have nothing to say over there unless they are instructed on who to hate/resent. I know why they hate us: “They hate us for our freedom.”. LOL!

  25. Elena

    Welcome Wendy!

    Thanks for your support!

  26. Jake the Snake

    Many have slithered from their rocks to join the chorus of howls about Alanna and Elena. They seem to be swarming like angry hornets. It is fun to watch.

  27. Casual Observer

    Great article, ladies! I really appreciate all you’ve done for this community. And, Alanna, I love the new haircut!! Very posh. 🙂

  28. Casual Observer

    Wow…it’s been so long since I last posted that the post I just left is in moderation!! I’ve been away a long time, I guess. 🙂

  29. NotGregLeteicq

    I’m tempted to sneak a peek but I’ve been so good about not visiting the stinking bathroom, even if the writing on the stall doors is juicy ugly gossip.

    Thanks for the updates though. It’s really gratifying to know how resentful and helpless they now feel, all because someone proved that two can play at the community blog game.

  30. NotGregLeteicq

    Casual Observer, you popped up after I posted! Didn’t see you. Welcome back!

  31. Casual Observer

    Thanks, NGL. 🙂 I’ve been lurking….real life stuff has kept me from doing much more. You’re all holding the fort quite nicely.

  32. Moon-howler

    NGL, the black velvets should be reminded that they have no one but their fearless leader to thank for the existence of anti. Had Their fearless leader not thrown people off the dark screen, often without telling them, there would have been no need for anti. People weren’t thrown off for rudeness or inappropriate remarks; they were thrown off for political thought that the fearless leader did not approve of.

    As I made my reading rounds yesterday, I noted with interest that both Elena and Alanna were attacked as stay at home moms who should have been paying more attention to their children and not blogging. Sitting in a bar I can understand. Blogging? Get serious. Find something else to be critical of. The personal attacks were entirely childish.

    If I am to believe what I read, sounds like the velvets should have some pretty demanding, self centered children if they devoted every waking second to their children. Since I am pretty sure that isn’t true, then let’s give these ladies a break. Be adult enough to accept that you disagree politically with them and cut out the personal attacks.

    I am NOT a stay at home mom. I fill in so they can spend more time with their families. This fact has not gone unnoticed on the dark screen. Maybe I should spend more time with my husband. Sit on the floor and play games with him and the dogs. If I choose to sit in a chair, does that make me a bad dog mom in the eyes of the velvets?

    The adversarial, personal comments need to be replaced with dialogue about ideas and policy.

  33. IVAN

    Moon, all they have left is personal attacks.

  34. Lafayette

    I wonder how they feel about stay at home moms with jobs?
    Nevermind, they would bash that that too!! I guess it boosts some egos to put down others.

    I think these people should realize that MOST kids go outside the home for public education. This frees up a few hours a day. Furthermore, NOBODY needs to explain their day or time to “bloggers”. They will spin to suit them and their agenda.

    I personally have a problem with SAHM that think they are “educators”. HAHAHA!!!
    If these “Home Schooling Moms” were so concerned about their children getting an education with religion. Why don’t these HSM(home schooling mom’s) get a real job and send their kids to get a “real education” at a private church based school. Of course they could be SAHM’s, if their husband’s could support the family.

  35. Emma

    Ivan, do you mean like Lafayette’s little attack?

    Lafayette, 3. January 2009, 9:23
    I personally have a problem with SAHM that think they are “educators”. HAHAHA!!!
    If these “Home Schooling Moms” were so concerned about their children getting an education with religion. Why don’t these HSM(home schooling mom’s) get a real job and send their kids to get a “real education” at a private church based school. Of course they could be SAHM’s, if their husband’s could support the family.

  36. Chris

    Emma,
    Cool your jets, woman!

    I attacked NO one personally. I was merely stating my opinion. Just like you state yours. I just felt that this were two types of mom’s that were left out of the discussion. I’m sorry if you feel my opinion was an attack. I can assure it was NOT! I had a daycare provider for my daughter that home schooled her two sons, and she’s was an amazing woman. I just feel kids schooled at home are in for a rude awakening when they are not in the four walls of their home. I went to school with a couple of people in high school that were home schooled they were like scared chicks away from the roost for the first time. I felt very sorry for them.

  37. Emma

    I would never have the patience–or the broad-enough skills–to homeschool my kids. But most of the homeschooled kids I know are some of the nicest kids around, fit in well with public-school kids, and get into good colleges. They take music lessons, participate in sports and generally have the same frenzy of activity that every other kid Iknow has these days. They are by no means sheltered, nor do they need pity.

  38. Chris

    Well, Emma. I have nothing bad to say about home school kids. I was on speaking from personal experience. My daycare provider’s sons both went to college and were on the Deans’ list the hope time. Oh, yes I have a neighbor with a home school child she seems very happy with it. I think there’s a lot more options for home schoolers today, than in 25-30 years ago. We have virtual high school they can take classes on if it’s something best not taught in the home. Technology makes it much easier for groups to form, etc. This makes for more well-rounded home schoolers than in my day.

    I would NEVER have the patience to even be a stay at home without a job. Now, I love be a working mom in the home that gets to venture out once a day for work. However, I can’t say the courthouse is always the “best” option for leaving the “compound” to work. I have the utmost respect for those that have the patience and nerves of steel to stay at home with their kids, and this includes those that educate at home.

    I really hope you understand I merely felt these “moms” had been left out of the equation. Of course their are also, part-time moms, and many others that haven’t been mentioned. I really think again due to technology more people are able to spend quality time at home.

    Lafayette. I’m using Chris she’s not as fiesty as that Lafayette. 😉

  39. Chris

    Yikes, Emma, I don’t want the “grammar police” after me. These were the two that jumped out at me. I’m sure there are more. I think you get my point.

    Corr: I was ONLY speaking from personal experience.
    and
    and were on the Dean’s list the WHOLE time.

  40. IVAN

    Emma, I was referring to “chicko’s” remarks on BVBL.”The photgraph nice, from the waist up.” Of course my favorite is “I’m thinking “gotturd” is likely the NGL person incognito.” If these classless remarks are all you can bring to a discussion, then you have lost.

  41. Princess Billy-Bob

    Some home school kids are well educated. Others have no skills at all. Unfortunately, the standards for home schooling can be very lax.

    I can’t imagine having the patience or, as Emma suggested, enough broad based skills to attempt to educate my own kid.

    I feel sorry for some of them I have met. Some have been kept away from other kids and have been pumped full of religion all day long. Some, not all.

    Some kids are home schooled because they have gotten in trouble. I am sure no one minds that.

  42. elitestliberals

    Wow Chris:

    Were you dissing Mrs. Nohe with your comment,

    I personally have a problem with SAHM that think they are “educators”. HAHAHA!!!
    If these “Home Schooling Moms” were so concerned about their children getting an education with religion. Why don’t these HSM(home schooling mom’s) get a real job and send their kids to get a “real education” at a private church based school. Of course they could be SAHM’s, if their husband’s could support the family.

  43. Chris

    Oh elite one.
    Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions there. I’m concerned about kids being taught by “educators” that might not have the education to teach. Each of us have OUR own set of priorities, and they all differ. I wrote further on home school kids. I guess you didn’t bother to read that part. Edit away, dear!

  44. Jewel of Denial

    What about those kids that get expelled from school on drug and/or weapon charges? Those children need to be schooled at home, privately, or worse yet have to move to another jurisdiction where they can attend public schools. They certainly deserve an education too. Then what if the same or even worse happens in the second school district. These children are at huge risk for being expelled from ALL public schools in the commonwealth.

  45. Princess Billy-Bob

    Students thrown out on weapons charges are not entitled to a public education. They are a danger to others. For drug use, they should be able to reapply after a year.

    The safety of the group is more important than individual rights in this case.

  46. Madam MoFo

    I find it very interesting that amnesia seems to transcend rational thought over on the “dark screen”. Here is a little reality check. Mr. L had NO job when he was in the process of financially destroying this county. Where was the outcry against this “stay at home dad” ?! Ahh, the insidious smell of hypocrisy rises like rotting stench on BVBL.

  47. Chris

    Well, I’ve been over to bvbl. I see they are steady making their assumptions of me and others as well. I love Emma calling my comments “slamming” over on bvbl. Yet, had a reasonable exchange of thoughts with me here. I was slamming no body. I guess as usual when I make general statements it hits a nerve with the “guilty parties”. They rat themselves out with their “guilt”, when their name has never been called out. I’ve had these guilty parties contact me regarding “general comments” and they want to know if I was talking about them. It’s very telling in my opinion.

    Again, I’m not singling out anyone person on this or any matter. We all have different ideas on who we want to live our lives, educate are children, etc. I personally prefer to have my child in public school where she will be exposed to all types of people. I can’t say I’m pleased about the people she might attend school with, but at least she will know that ALL groups have their good and their bad. We are allowed to still think and speak freely in the US, aren’t we?

    Also, another “myth” over there is that I’m on the WaPo board. It’s common knowledge I have NEVER been able to read the comments on the WaPo. In fact, when the article was in the Post of Allison and myself people would cut and paste the comments and send them to be via email. I find it very interesting, especially since I had to write my comments for the WaPo and email them to Allison, who in turn posted them for me on the WaPo. It was very clear that I could NOT post on WaPo. Nothing has changed in this regard. I saw where others are able to read comments on newspaper’s comment section.

  48. Jewel of Denial

    Madam, the “little lady” wasn’t working or home schooling either. I would think if you could live without either adult working in the home, that you’d be living somewhere far nicer than Sudley.

  49. Fontbonne

    “I personally have a problem with SAHM that think they are “educators”. HAHAHA!!!
    If these “Home Schooling Moms” were so concerned about their children getting an education with religion. Why don’t these HSM(home schooling mom’s) get a real job and send their kids to get a “real education” at a private church based school. Of course they could be SAHM’s, if their husband’s could support the family.”

    What on earth does this even mean? Are you saying women should not choose the way in which they spend their days? Are you saying families should not choose they way in which they educate their children?

    Results of homeschooling are all over the charts, as are results of public/private schooling. It isn’t the where of the education, it’s the what and the how.

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