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Political bull****. This is why Obama does not have my full support.
Rick, ALL politics is bull.
thank God!! Nazi arpaio will be gone!
Gracias a Dios
I look forward to the report by the justice department!
here’s hoping Sherriff Joe gets more publicity and is seen by more Americans as a hero … and Obama gets burned.
If you stand up for the American people, the elitists who run this country will use every weapon they ahve to intimidate you.
The Frank Principis of the world can happily take their kickbacks … the empoyers can happily employ illegal aliens millions at a time … the banks can make fraudulent loans and get rich … but stand up for the American people and BAM now it’s time for a “DOJ investigation”.
But this is nothing new. Bush’s DOJ played the same game. They used the DOJ to intimidate the City of Manassas.
Corruption is the order of the day. Disguised as pragmatism, or compassion. that which makes the rich richer is rewarded or at a minimum bailed out. That which empowers American workers is slapped down hard.
There still will be no Amnesty. We’ll be stuck in this status quo on immigration until someday the balance tips towards some degree of integrity.
Hopefully, Sheriff Joe will turn the tables on the DOJ and investigate them for obstruction of justice!!!
@alza
I doubt you’d know the first thing about a Nazi if you met one. Your comment is the peak of ignorance.
The more I think about this, the less upset I am. I think the putrid stench of the Obama administration is going to have to get much, much worse before enough people wake up and figure out what’s really going on. Sheriff Joe may wind up a martyr in the war to save what’s left of the United States. Hey alza, is that what a Nazi would say?
This investigation was not unexpected. I am surprised it didn’t start under President Bush.
This is most welcome news. The Joe “KKK” Arpaio is a disgrace. His reign of terror includes numerous counts of civil rights violations that will soon be proven in a court of law. The “Rule of Law” can and should be applied to everyone, yes, even those who are sworn to uphold and enforce it.
Slow and Rick, is this what happens when you venture beyond the framework of Greg Letiecq’s hate bubble? My advice would be to stay in that bubble. The more you strike out on your own, the more you demonstrate your prejudice and ignorance. Defending the KKK Sheriff? Attacking Obama and Frank Principi? You’ve become parodies of Gospel Greg. Even Greg wouldn’t defend the KKK Sheriff.
Without the benefit of having any of the accurate details of the pending investigation I will wait to stake out a position but if it concludes that illegalities were committed then those situations should be rectified. After all, it is the function of the Justice Department and ironically and notably, the local Sheriff’s Department to enforce the laws pertaining to illegal activity. I do find it particulalry curious however that the members of Congress that are forcing this investigation are not from the delegations of Arizona, New Mexico or Texas. Sometimes it is what is not apparent on the surface that is the most telling.
I’ve heard a little about Sheriff Joe but not all the particulars.
ShellyB, why do you call him “KKK”? Are there documented civil rights violations that he has committed?
Because she’s engaged in slander.
@YankeeForever
Sheriff Joe is a patriotic American law enforcement officer doing the job other American officers won’t do. He’s dealing with drug violence and kidnapping situations that the ultra-simple like ShellyB can’t comprehend and would like to see spread to our backyards. You will find that those who haven’t matured mentally beyond the 7 year mark will call folks who have to enforce the law in such tough conditions “nazis” and “kkk” because simple minds describe what they see in simplest terms.
Sheriff Joe is known as the KKK sheriff because of an interview he gave where he said he is proud that his racial targeting tactics are compared to the tactics of the KKK. I think he said he considers it a badge of honor. It’s on You tube.
No one in PWC has said or done anything close to what this man has done. But the fact that our two Gospel Greg wannabes try to defend him is a sign of how badly they have been brainwashed.
I looked up the video, and also found other articles that reported that that video and the photo of Sheriff Joe in a KKK hood was completely doctored.
Also this, from http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/102105
I think if we can give Mr. Obama that he really did mean to control earmarks (just not this time) then I suppose we could give this not-always-perfectly articulate sheriff the benefit of the doubt, too, as far as what he really meant.
Sheriff is not a patriotic American. He is an idiot. On Wednesday Sheriff Joe marched shackled immigrants through the streets of Phoenix as a show of force and to promote his Fox Reality Channel television program. The immigrants were dressed in old fashioned prison stripes and armed deputies marched the detainess in front of the cameras that were summoned to this latest of his stunts. This is a violation of the basic human dignity. I hope to hell he gets the book thrown at him. He is a disgrace to law enforcement.
I think my time is better spent preventing illegal immigration than discussing it’s lack of merit. So join me at the following link for some useful endeavors:
http://blueservo.net
See you there!
The Sheriff Joe Reality show?!
I think I heard on Fox News Channel the other day, that the prisoners have pink under garments under those “chain gang stripes”.
Marie, where was that reported? Do you have a link? I don’t recall seeing that in the paper or hearing it on the news. My head is too busy spinning over the massive spending bills of the last week.
Marie,
That is exactly what some have been saying. In some places where illegal immigrants have settled it becomes an area that, as you stated, is “a violation of the basic human dignity”. That is what we don’t want our neighborhoods to turn into. Some 7-11’s are a good example.
Do you see any organized gang activity in Joe’s camps like that shown on TV documentaries in brick and mortar prisons? No? Then he must be doing the right thing! Other prisons are just training grounds for first offenders. They go in green and come out hardened criminals.
Is there any objective material on this guy anywhere? I don’t know much about him. I know there are people who love him and others who hate him. I want just facts.
I have tried two times to post links for Yankeeforever and I am not sure why the posts aren’t showing up.
BTW-I meant to say in my earlier post the parade was on Wednesday, February 4. Sorry, it was not this past Wednesday. I should proof better.
Marie, if they arent going out, you probably have a link in there that is being read as spam.
Post it again and leave the links out. I can go in as an edit and force it once you have posted.
Moonhowler, wikipedia is always a good first stop if you want facts -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
“Arpaio banned inmates from possessing “sexually explicit material” including Playboy magazine after female officers complained that inmates openly masturbated while viewing them, or harassed the officers by comparing their anatomy to the nude photos in the publications. The ban was challenged on First Amendment grounds but upheld by the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.”
You can read about Tent City and the Pink Underwear there also … I’ll skip for brevity … in summary, he makes jail an uncomfortable experience.
Arpaio has instructed his sheriff’s deputies and members of his civilian posse to arrest illegal immigrants. Arpaio told the Washington Times, “My message is clear: if you come here and I catch you, you’re going straight to jail…. I’m not going to turn these people over to federal authorities so they can have a free ride back to Mexico. I’ll give them a free ride to my jail.”[39]
As of August 2006, there had been 263 arrests and 121 convictions of smugglers under the state law, often known as the Coyote law. No court had convicted a smuggled person as a co-conspirator by that time.[40]
In April 2008, an editorial in The New York Times denounced a proposed expansion of the local enforcement of immigration law to all of Arizona, offering immigration sweeps by the Maricopa County posse as an example of abuse of the program.[41]
On March 3, 2009, the United States Department of Justice “notified Arpaio of the investigation in a letter saying his enforcement methods may unfairly target Hispanics and Spanish-speaking people.” [42] Arpaio, denying any wrongdoing and welcoming the investigation, says he’ll cooperate fully.[43]
In November 2007 a group called Arizonans for the U.S. Constitution and Recall of Joe Arpaio filed the paperwork to begin an effort to recall Arpaio and County Prosecutor Andrew P. Thomas from office for allegedly disobeying and violating the United States Constitution and abuse of power.[45] Their petition to get a recall question for the two officials onto the next general election ballot failed when the group was unable to collect the more than 200,000 registered voter signatures required.[46] In a survey taken by the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication while the petition was in circulation, nearly three out of four respondents opposed the recall, and 65 percent of the respondents held a positive opinion of Arpaio.[47]
Bottom live even if Sherrif Joe goes too far sometimes, neither should we live in a society where inmates have a right to read porn and jerk it in front of officers.
He’s being attacked not for Tent City but for arresting illegal immigrants. Our elitist ruling class cannot sit still for enforcement of US law.
Rick, why do you take such strong positions on things you know nothing about? What’s in it for you? If Sheriff Joe was being held accountable for “arresting illegal immigrants,” then there would have been a huge outcry when Chief Deane recommended 287g in Prince William County. We didn’t see that. In fact, Chief Deane is almost universally supported in our county. And when Corey Stewart and Greg Letiecq tried to attack Chief Deane, Corey and Greg got their butts handed to them in a sling, and neither one have had an ounce of credibility since.
As citizens we try to support law enforcement, and we try to support our soldiers. But just as there is a court marshal system for soldiers who break the law, there should also be justice for law enforcement officials who abuse power, and conduct racial profiling sweeps targeting one minority of people.
If this is proven in a court of law, as I expect it will be, then Sheriff Joe will become Inmate Joe right quickly. And I don’t see why anyone other than a Gospel Greg wannabe would object to that.
“But just as there is a court marshal system for soldiers who break the law, there should also be justice for law enforcement officials who abuse power”
ABSOLUTELY. And most of our elected officials should be in jail for colluding against US law. And racial identity politics shouldn’t drive DOJ investigations.
Again I remind you that the DOJ did this in our own backyard. The problems we had with PWC becoming the location of choice for illegal immigrants may not have been as dramatic if DOJ hasn’t very publicly harassed the City of Manassas and actually helped plaintiffs to file suit against them over the definition of “family”.
ShellyB you’ve called me names repeatedly. All I have to say is may your neighborhood turn into what mine turned into 3 years ago. Maybe that would change your perspective.
Moonhowler-I did post it again and got a message that I had already posted that message.
Rick, I understand you wanted some rules enforced in your neighborhood. Sheriff Joe is another matter. I think that you have taken it all so personally that you are just taking sides on every thing that pops up here in sort of a kneejerk fashion. How can you be so sure the real PERSON you are inside would back Sheriff Joe?
Marie, I don’t know what to tell you. Email me the entire content of the message and I will try to post it for you. Wait, change some words around. As long as you change something that should work. Take out any links. Email me and I will force them.
Rick, there was more to that story than definition of family. Someone was very careless with confidential information. That’s all I am going to say because it was hearsay and not my story to repeat. There are others here who know the details much better than I do.
Everyone who doesn’t collect facts first about Sherrif Arapio is just reacting in a “kneejerk” reaction. From what I have read, he is enforceing the law that identifies his right to arrest “illegal” immigrants. Because there are more “illegal” arrests than his jails can hold, he put up temporary tents. His political enemies are ethic advocacy groups that don’t want “illegal” immigration law enforced. There are also many ethnicity-centric leaders in DOJ (from specific ethnicities), who also value their ethnicity more than the law. That is why they are making such a fuss over law enforcement of “illegal” immigration, are are similar leaders from specific ethnicity backgrounds that have obtained political power. These are the same political people who push HUD and 8a protected class laws, to benefit only their own favored ethnicities.
I think you also have to remember there is a military style drug war going on right across his border. I doubt people from New York in “Ivory Towers” can comprehend that. When DOJ came to PWC and Manassas, I learned that many in DOJ are more interested in protecting thier ethnicity “protected class” than in doing real law enforcement of law already on the books. Is DOJ arresting any “illegal” immigrants enough to make a dent in the 12 million “illegal” immigrants here now?
off topic, but I’ll probably get heat for this on bvbl, and I wanted an opinion from both sides.
any opinions?
Greg L. I just have to pose a question and a philosophy first…
What if a scientist takes an egg cell that is “rejected” by the body because it is not fertilized and stores it in a test tube?
God’s natural process has declared that egg cell with its existing stem cell in it will now die outside the body, causing the infant that “could have been” to die or a form of “nature induced” infanticide, menstruation, or whatever you want to call it.
Suppose a sperm donor bank, takes some sperm cells that also were scheduled to die by God’s natural process and put those sperm cells into that test tube.
Does the Scientist now create life after God scheduled death?
What if that scientist STOPs the development of those stem cell divisions and puts them in stasis, where they NEVER mature into an infant. Is that killing an infant? or sustaining stem cell division that will never become an infant…
Is a bacteria life? A virus life? An egg cell life? A sperm cell life?
It is my belief that God, does not intend for everyone of the some 405 egg cells and 500 billion sperm cells in each individual to become infants, although both contain stem cells and DNA to become infants.
By not putting them ALL together and creating infants out of every one of them are we “killing” 402 of the 405 eggs and combined cells that never come to full term but are destroyed by the body?
What if we could use those 402 cells to save children who are already born, from a natural death not stopped or prevented by God, that if left untreated would result in the death of that infant to cancer or some other fatal disease. Would that be saving an infants life, or killing one? Whould God want us to save that child or let it die? Does he encourage death or life? Does he really care about or physical life? What if his only real concern is our spiritual soul and what happens to it after we die?
I believe their is room in scripture that does not prohibit ALL death and does not guarantee all life, in fact scripture does not talk about abortion, stem cell research right or wrong at all.
What if you or I are second guessing God’s true intent of giving us the gift of self-determination and right to make choices that are best for each of us individually.
I believe God will give to me and allow me to do what he will not allow you to do, because my special circumstance is different than yours.
When did religion and republican “religious doctrine” become “judge” that judges all and enforces law on all without letting God decide and grant his own personal permission to each person based on how they hear him?
Oh Michael, you don’t want me to respond. There is no mention of abortion in the bible. The person I look to on the subject of abortion is Carl Sagan. I believe he has a very moral and ethical position on the subject.
http://www.2think.org/abortion.shtml
Not all religions agree on abortion. Not all Christian religions agree on abortion. Not all Christian religions agree on who is a Christian as is evidenced on the dark screen.
I believe 100% in stem cells research. A fertilized ovum is not a child. It is a pair of cells.
Warning to all, I am not going to debate abortion with anyone. I sometimes discuss policy.
Michael, I believe the most important thing you said was
Aren’t you sorry you asked? However, you are right, you will probably get eaten alive by you know who.
Moon-howler and Michael, I’m against abortion (let the attacks rain down, I know). But what I have found most disturbing about the President’s actions on stem cell research is the suddenness of the policy reversal, which looks like a denial of the complexity of this issue. People are still losing jobs, the Dow is still on a roller coaster, but this was a critical issue to fund with my tax dollars right now, for a technology that is still very controversial as far as even its efficacy? He did say in his inaugural speech that for those who did not vote for him, that he was our President, too. I would like to believe that, but lately it seems like he’s just turning his back on any controversy.
Things are happening so fast with this administration that I’m worried that people aren’t processing it well or able to pay attention to it all. And that flies in the face of the “transparency” we were promised.
Micheal,
Don’t get me started on the topic of stem cells. My response would look like one of your posts(due to length) 🙂
I have a whole host of questions I would pose to those that oppose stem cell research. I’ve seen many in my family suffer and die from and with Diabetes, Alzheimer’s, various cancers, and other long term diseases, and even blindness. I want any and all advances in science to be studied for cures to these conditions and many others.
The right to life types don’t mind spending thousands of their own funds and using insurance benefits(we all pay for this by way of higher premiums) to pay some doctor to play “God” and make babies for them. Then there are multiple embroys created in the process that don’t always get used. They get destroyed. Why don’t they care about the destruction of those embyos? They think science is fine for creating lives, and yet not for further advancement in science for other things. Babies are great, and cures for diseases, etc. don’t seem to matter.
Except that there is evidence that adult stem cells can be just as effective, as well as cord-blood stem cells (easily available immediately after a childbirth and just as rich as embryonic stem cells. It seems that the president deliberately chose to fund the embryonic stem cell research as an in-your-face to pro-life conservatives.
I believe we need to research all avenues including embryonic stem cells. I feel we still have a lot more to learn with the embryonic stem cells(for good or bad). The research has been very limited in this area.
I don’t know that I see the reversal is all that in-your-face. I think it’s long over due, and conservatives should’ve seen this coming. I have some religious right Republicans in my family, and they too believe in embryonic stem cell research. We’ve seen the some horrible suffering and would like to see cures to prevent others from suffering like our loved ones did.
What about the embroys that are destroyed. Wouldn’t you rather see them used for good than destroyed.
Sorry, but I don’t have a black-and-white opinion regarding your question, Chris. What I don’t like are the underlying deceptions going on with this issue–for example, Obama declaring that cloning will be off-limits in this research. Sorry, Mr. President, but cloning is very much a part of this research and almost unavoidable. So why does he suddenly come to some kind of moral roadblock when it comes to cloning, if he doesn’t see embryos as human life anyway? I don’t get it.
Saw on the news a couple of days ago that Charles Barkeley (yea, THE Charles Barkely) was spending a few days in Sheriff Joes tent prison -DUI, I believe. He did not have to wear pink underwear, however – there weren’t any large enough! Also, he didn’t have to mingle with the crowd.
Perhaps the novel Boys from Brazil is a good reason not to have human cloning. I get real tired of hearing the old ‘not on my tax dollar’ reasoning. No one checked with me to see if I wanted my tax dollars used to decimate Iraq. I would have said NO. I don’t feel one bit safer even after this country spent 100 billion dollars a year to fight that ‘war.’
We tried it GWB’s way with no ebryonic stem cell research. Now its time to try it the Clinton/Obama way. Surely it was not a surprise that he overturned that ban. It also has nothing to do with the economy–just something that should have been done. Most Republicans don’t even believe in that ban. Check out the list of those who support Nancy Reagan who has championed the cause of embryonic stem cell research.
I don’t care how people feel about abortion. In fact, my personal feelings are quite different in many ways from my political policy feelings. None of the conservative Republican presidents are going to upset THAT political bed of hornets. If it were going to happen, it would have happened already.
Punchak, how did he end up with Sheriff Joe?
I understand that cloning is almost unavoidable. With that being said I feel that research should be done NIH, and similar type institutions. This would greatly reduce the risk of cloning.
I have very strong feelings on the issue, but I too have some areas that are gray. I think we all varying views on “life”, as to when it begins. Herewithin lies part of the controversy and what is actually life(fetus or cyro-preserved embryos, or both). I don’t claim to have all of the answers. I just know we all see things differently.