‘Maria Full of Grace’ at GMU-PW

11 Thoughts to “‘Maria Full of Grace’ at GMU-PW”

1. Alanna

   March 20, 2009 at 12:04 pm

   Thanks Cindy.
2. Posting As Pinko

   March 20, 2009 at 12:17 pm

   I’ve heard this is a tough one to watch but very good. Then again, I find all of these films tough to watch. I think they need to be shown, however.
3. Second-Alamo

   March 21, 2009 at 12:13 pm

   I don’t know anything about the film other than it is one of tragedy. There are many stories of personal tragedy that can be found in every corner of the world, and at all periods in history. My question is what does this have to do with illegal immigration, or is it just intended to bring sympathy for those less fortunate. I feel the same sympathy when I hear how some innocent person’s life has been forever destroyed by the actions of people who should not even be in this country. Somehow if you’re poor you get the sympathy, and yet if you are a well to do victim you get none. People’s ability to be kind or unkind isn’t linked to a person’s financial status, so all poor people who come across our border are not innocent victims of their surrounding, and those are the ones that we need to be aware of. The question is how do we help those who are deserving of it while preventing those who aren’t from entering our country?
4. Posting As Pinko

   March 21, 2009 at 8:41 pm

   “Somehow if you’re poor you get the sympathy, and yet if you are a well to do victim you get none.”

   SA, I think it depends on the circumstances. For example, people will always grieve when a child is ill, no matter what socio-economic status he/she comes from. Why? Because we perceive children as helpless.

   Well-to-do people don’t come off as being helpless because it is assumed that money can usually get them things like good health care, attorneys and social status. Is that true? I don’t know, but it has always been my perception.

   Furthermore, it’s easier for the have-nots to relate more to other have-nots and to have sympathy for those who have even less.

   And lets’ face it–there are far more have-nots in the world than there are haves.
5. Second-Alamo

   March 21, 2009 at 9:20 pm

   Here’s the example MH. An elderly couple was murdered in their home not long ago in a home invasion that was carried out by an illegal immigrant. No great deal of outrage or sympathy appeared here. Then, a woman claimed to be beaten by the police, and the posts here were many with outrage in every sentence. The Hispanics even marched in Manassas in her support. That’s the difference I’m referring to.

   Come to think of it, the POOR woman hasn’t pressed legal charges against the officer as of yet! Maybe she owes people an apology, since her case must not have any merit. In other words, mostly fabricated!
6. You Wish

   March 21, 2009 at 9:48 pm

   Posting As Pinko :
   “Somehow if you’re poor you get the sympathy, and yet if you are a well to do victim you get none.”
   SA, I think it depends on the circumstances. For example, people will always grieve when a child is ill, no matter what socio-economic status he/she comes from. Why? Because we perceive children as helpless.
   Well-to-do people don’t come off as being helpless because it is assumed that money can usually get them things like good health care, attorneys and social status. Is that true? I don’t know, but it has always been my perception.
   Furthermore, it’s easier for the have-nots to relate more to other have-nots and to have sympathy for those who have even less.
   And lets’ face it–there are far more have-nots in the world than there are haves.

   This makes no sense at all. Money doesn’t protect someone against murder, rape, violence, etc. So we shouldn’t have sympathy for those like Chandra Levy and her family, who was murdered by someone who was here illegally because she was a “have”? Smacks of classism, if you ask me. Your perception is pretty skewed. We should only have sympathy for the have nots and let those who have money/social status go without pity when they are helpless? That doesn’t sound like something a true “humanitarian” would say.

   Did anyone go to this? Again, it seems like the only one who does is Cindy B. – the rest of you conveniently seem to miss the movies and the study circles.
7. Posting As Pinko

   March 21, 2009 at 9:48 pm

   SA, an elderly couple murdered by anyone is horrible and sickening. That the murderer was an illegal immigrant is secondary to the tragedy but indicative of this country’s inability to solve the problem of illegal immigration.

   Violent criminals need to go where they belong: to jail, to a mental institution or as in this case, to another country.

   My preference would be to send all violent criminals to a just, Siberian work camp that produces something society can actually use. But I don’t think I will ever get my wish.
8. Posting As Pinko

   March 21, 2009 at 9:56 pm

   You Wish, did YOU go to the movie? I’m guessing not.

   Whether you would like to believe it or not, wealthy people have a better chance at having a murder solved or anything else solved because they can afford the services of the people who take care of such things. Example–two people are defrauded. One is wealthy, the other poor. Who is more likely to afford an attorney? Who is more likely to have “friends in high places” that are willing to help out?

   “So we shouldn’t have sympathy for those like Chandra Levy” I never said we should NOT have sympathy for the “haves.” I said it’s easier for the have-nots to understand other have-nots. It’s also easier for the haves to understand other haves. It’s a socio-economic divide, not one that I have invented.

   If you look at society, there are some things that elicit sympathy from members of every socio-economic group, even from criminals–violating children is one example. Most of us can put ourselves in the place of that child or understand how helpless children are. We cannot so easily imagine the lives and plights of others, however.
9. Moon-howler

   March 22, 2009 at 1:45 pm

   SA, no position was taken on this blog over the woman who charged that the MP police beat her. I think one or 2 readers might have commented but there was no thread and very few regulars commented. I believe Mackie might have, but I could also be wrong.

   We don’t generally comment on crime as a routine. Why? If an Hispanic commited the crime, it is usually covered over on the dark screen, more than adequately. If the crime was committed by someone not Hispanic, you rarely read about it on the dark screen. We aren’t a crime blog.

   My personal opinion is that it was one person’s word against another’s. Last I heard, the matter was still under investigation. I think it would be rather stupid to go out on a limb when so few facts were actually known. I would rather wait to hear the results, then offer an opinion.
10. Moon-howler

    March 22, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    You Wish, Is it required that we attend study circles or films? By whom? The study circles so far have been for Manassas City residents. Many of us live in the county. (but not all)

    Pinko made perfect sense. Perception is that those with material means can defend themselves against crime much easier than those without means. Poorer folks live where crimes are committed. Does that mean crime will never cross their path? Of course not. Chandra Levy is a perfect example. Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman are perfect examples.

    OJ is also a perfect example of money getting you out of paying the piper. John Hinckley Jr. is another person who didn’t get what the rest of us would have gotten. His daddy paid over a million dollars to keep him out of prison. William Kennedy Smith was cleared of rape, as was Kobe Bryant. Don’t think for one minute that money didn’t protect these people from justice.
11. Starryflights

    March 23, 2009 at 6:27 am

    “Maria Full of Grace” is an excellent film depicting Colombia’s downtrodden and I encourage everybody to see it.

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