SUNDAY EVENING UPDATE:
CLOSED MONDAY: PWC SCHOOLS, MANASSAS CITY SCHOOLS, MANASSAS PARK CITY SCHOOLS, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE DC AREA
UPDATE: THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD WARNING FOR THE PRINCE WILLIAM AREA . 12/19/2000 9:30 AM
The weather forecasts are all predicting 20-25+ inches of snow is headed our way, right up the state. Charlottesville is supposed to be ‘ground zero’ whatever that means. That might be CNN-speak for ‘gets the most snow.’
We can use this thread as this week’s open thread (as promised) and also to discuss the impending snow storm which I now hear might just become a blizzard. Our last big blizzard was in 1996. Stay warm and let your fingers do the talking.
Haha Moon. That one gets my mom. 😉
@A PW County Resident
At this rate it will be four feet before you know it. 🙂
I’ve noticed a pattern here but I’m a bit confused. Can anyone explain the connection between snow and alcohol? You can’t drive anyway so may as well indulge? Just my guess.
Weather and road conditions statewide at http://www.511virginia.org
@Moon-howler
…going to the ABC store? Feel free to drop a bottle of Baileys on my front porch on your way home!
Ihave to wait for my son to come dig my car out. Plows often do more damage than good.
There are plenty of reputable climate scientists who disagree with your statement about ‘established scientific facts.’ Even if the majority agrees that the basic science of anthropogenic climate change is valid, there is still substantial disagreement regarding the sign and magnitude of feedbacks. The dominant feedbacks have to be large and positive for anthropogenic climate change to be significant enough to matter. Given that natural climate variability has trumped anthropogenic climate change over the last 10 years (i.e. it has been getting colder), it is getting harder to argue that the feedbacks are behaving as expected.
@kelly3406
You know, I’m one of those folks who believe we are at the beginning (or the end, depending on your point of view) of the Sixth Extinction.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/25/090525fa_fact_kolbert
The who, why, or how really doesn’t matter… and an extra generation or two is a “rounding error” in the context of the Universe… so simply enjoying “being” while you can (The zen buddhists understand these things).
How can anyone think that the pollutants are good for you? If they aren’t good for you on an individual basis, then how can these thing be good for the earth or the atmosphere? I don’t have the scientific background to argue climatology. I could g spew a bunch of fact from a book but the rankest of amateurs could trip me up if challenged. Therefore I must rely on others.
The others are apparently warring factions. I am not willing to gamble that carbon emmission and other pollutants are not harmful. It is too much of a gamble. Once the confirmation is there, it is too late. We are doomed. So I prefer to err on the side of caution. If is it all a hoax, I don’t feel we are any worse off by not polluting our own earth.
Or, if I understand Opinion correctly, we are screwed anyway. The only variable is time.
11:35 in Manassas City – Snow and wind – a real “white out”. Use great
care if you must drive.
In our final chapters – we all die. Everyone of us.
The great question is what do we leave behind for future generations?
@Moon-howler
That’s pretty much it, M-h.
@Poor Richard
I highly recommend the “simply enjoy being” philosophy. If you wonder what that is, just sit back and watch your dogs for a while. Dogs are the ultimate zen creature (which is why I love dogs).
Episcopalians are a hearty lot. Trinity Episcopal Manassas will have only 1 abbreviated service at 11AM tomorrow. No Sunday School or Adult Forum. Stay safe & warm @ home.
Check out the live Web cam in Old Town Manassas. http://www.visitmanassas.org/camera/
And I’m glad I have a brown dog in this stuff! (Oscar, my avatar)
Established scientific facts….Yeah, I saw those emails.
@Moon-howler
If we were talking about pollutants, then I would agree with you. CFCs, PM-10 particulates, NO2, tropospheric ozone, etc. are substances that should be regulated and controlled for the sake of human health. But carbon dioxide occurs naturally and has been present naturally in much greater concentrations on Earth than present. No one is predicting CO2 concentrations to rise to a level that is harmful on an individual basis.
I thought I got enough beer. I’m almost all out now.
I have two favorite expressions. One is an obscene two word, two syllable expletive that I often (actually, more often as I get older) repeat under my breath towards disagreeable people (that sort of looks like “**** ***”, and the other is the reflective thought when I get cut off in traffic, someone cuts in line, or something that would have set me off in my youth occurs, “…it just doesn’t matter.” I know this sounds like a contradiction, but it works for me.
Regarding global warming and who is right or who is wrong… it just doesn’t matter. None of us are getting out of here alive.
I suggest that all deniers of climate change science write letters to your grandchildren, right now, today, and explain that you spent the critical years in the struggle against global warming slurping up and regurgitating conspiracy theories from TV propagandists. Explain that you rejected 97 percent of all scientific studies, except for those bought and paid for by the oil industry.
Write that letter, and brag that you embraced partisanship with such religious fanaticism that you were willing to accept as fact anything said by right wing demigods. Write that you were among the sheep that helped to delay action. They’ll lament your ignorance, whether or not we find a solution in the mean time, they’ll wonder how they could have descended from such irresponsible fools, who while not owning an oil company, were all too willing to be duped by them.
@JustinT
You know, over the course of history men and women could have written thousands of letters apologizing for man’s inhumanity to man. We have a history of killing each other and a general disregard for the larger context within which we live. The problem is… well… the earth is populated with people… and we are a really flawed evolutionary prototype. Natural selection is taking its course… and we are taking our perhaps rightful place in the evolutionary process. I wonder what will be next?
In the end… it just doesn’t matter. Good topic for a snowy day.
Opinion, as you know I’m sure, severe weather during all seasons is in store for us if we don’t get green house gases under control. But you know I never thought about it quite like what you wrote there. It’s kinda eerie, but it’s kinda true. First we developed the technology to create green house gases, then, came the mega-corporations and mega-media empires with political agendas that involved blunting the discoveries of science when they threatened profit margins. Makes me think of Terminator, only it’s not machines that does in humanity, it’s greed.
Off topic, but todays’s WaPo Real Estate section(E5) has PWC trends
from January to June.
– Almost the same number of home sold but the average price dropped
$65,000 county wide.
– Zip 22193 saw sales increase by over sixty units, but the average
price dropped $110,000.
– Zip 22191 had sales stay almost even, but the average price went
down over $70,000.
@JustinT
JustinT… I think you’ve got it! …now… just “be”.
You guys have hit upon the best thing about global warming. EVERYTHING under the sun can be caused by it! Higher seas/lower seas, higher temps/lower temps, more hurricanes/less hurricanes, more snow/less snow! It’s the perfect goof!
Kelly, I suggest we just kill off all the exhalers then. That would take care of the problem.
Seriously, I can’t fight the science end of it. Just the common sense send of it. And if Opinion is right….
Hey you all, a girl could get depressed. Opinion tells us we are all toast anyway, Poor Richard tells us our houses aren’t worth crap….they are selling but for 1/10th the price, Kelly suggests its the exhalers fault.(just kidding Kelly) and I am an exhaler.
Just send me a meteor strike…a big one. CME!
Cindy just wants to show up in the snow. Are you still fostering that pup?
My dogs are acting real ornery about going outside. They have to be thrown out of the house.
While the weather outside is frightful, inside it’s so delightful….
Yes, let’s all be thankful we have roofs over our heads, no matter what those may be. What are the homeless doing right now when the shelters are overfilled?
17 inches at the house (Moon-howler, real inches not man inches) so global warming must not exist. For the first time in years we actually have a second season. Bought my milk, beer, and diet coke yesterday so we can survive for weeks.
We went out to a Christmas Party last evening and the local 7-11 had run out of all regular and mid-grade gasoline, so we had to buy premium.
@Alanna
Alanna, That’s the saddest story I’ve ever heard.
Snow is finally slowing down in Manassas. Hopefully, now snow plows can
begin to get ahead of the curve.
There was a huge run on gasoline since the storm was announced. I guess that is a good thing. No one will run out of gas and get stranded, hopefully.
Alanna, happened to me in reverse – all the beer the local store had left
was Keystone and people give you the evil eye when you bring that to a
party.
It looks like the snow is cranking back up again in the county.
@Poor Richard
Tough luck Poor Richard, I have not had Keystone since college. I would rather run out of gas!
You are right M-H, a little break keyed wishful thinking
on my part. Alas, snow is still coming down.
We just got back from sledding at the Bull Run hill. It was fun! I don’t think I’ve been on a snow sled in about 30 years! This was our first time we’ve taken our 8 year old sledding although he’s done it before with his cousins in NY. Now he is sitting in a warm bath because his “butt is freezing”!
@JustinT
>>> I suggest that all deniers of climate change science write letters to your grandchildren, right now, today,….
Won’t work. Fortunately my progeny can think, and have the common sense to see through the bullshit your shoveling.
Is there no ‘weather event’ you won’t blame on
global warmingclimate change?It’s so beautiful outside!!! Spent the whole day shoveling and re-shoveling, then walking in the park as it got dark (definitely howled, MH, as I was alone). I wasn’t cold at all, as there was no wind. Hope it’s still snowing tomorrow.
Super Sky Mart had some Yueng Ling Beer. If you drink enough Ying Ling, then you won’t notice the cold in your yueng yang.
I broke down and had a beer tonight even though I don’t like beer. Must be the virtual peer pressure! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Since there is no place to go, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
Snowing pretty hard again in Woodbridge.
Check out the live “snow” cam in Old Town Manassas now. Beautiful at night! http://www.visitmanassas.org/camera/
Thank God for blogs, twitter, facebook, hulu.com, etc. I would have gone stir crazy today!
Ring, what are you trying to imply, that I’m blaming the snow on global warming? No. I was reacting to a couple of yahoos who said the snow is proof that there is not global warming. You read the last of the exchange. Warning: your progeny will go to college one day and develop the capacity for free thought. It’s what college is for, so that the minds of our youth are not confined by the limits of their parents’.
Justin, methinks you have a grand sense of self. Yahoos? There are many scientists that also dispute things. Not sure your tone is capable of discussion it appears.
Snow check. Report in please. Is it still snowing out there?
Does anyone else think about luggage and such when they see the word ‘denier?’
Still snowing in WestGate!
Snow still falling in the City. Some people in my community are having a problem with the snow plowing by our contractor in our neighborhood. I guess they think this type of storm is a regular occurance around here.