WHAT? Who is Brit Hume to tell anyone that their faith is basically inferior and that Christianity is the only religion with REAL forgiveness and redemption. How self righteous and pompous can one person be?
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Tiger would be better off consulting the Dalai Lama.
Well, well, well, Mr. Hume. This is total BS on Hume’s part. He should not pass judgment on others. First of all this a man that found religion after his is son’s unfortunate suicide in February 1998. Then he himself had rumors flying around of him having an affair with one of his Fox coworkers.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/01/axed-fox-newser-behind-brit-hume-affair-rumor.php
Religion is a personal issue. One that is between a person and their God. I have absolutely NO desire to be deal with anyone that sees fit to question another person’s religion. Hello, people have you ever heard of Freedom of Religion. Hume has made a tee-total ass of himself. The same goes for anyone that feels that self-riteous.
Does anyone wait
Brit just doesn’t get it and Bill OReilly makes me ill, I wonder, if someone had suggested Tiger find faith in Islam, would Bill still be as sweet and syrupy, I HIGHLY doubt it!
http://www.newser.com/story/77491/brit-hume-tiger-woods-advice-not-proselytizing.html
I think that Hume is an idiot and his beliefs childish, but I do think that people should generally have a right to say what they mean. So he remains a biased imbecile of a journalist to me, but no hard feelings about him expressing his faith.
He doesn’t understand why people were so turned off. He thinks it is because he mentioned Jesus Christ. I saw him being interviewed by Bill O’Reilly on this subject.
No Brit, it is because you are a self serving ass! What has worked for him might not work for anyone else. The arrogance he showed by blaming Jesus for people’s contempt of what he said really topped it all off.
Lafayette, you saved me a lot of time. Thanks. Funny how he left out that he was rumored to be having a fling with Meghan Kelly or however she spells her name. He just needs a hypocrite stamp so he can hit his forehead on an hourly basis.
Rick I don’t mind that he expressed his faith. He didn’t need to take a shot at the Buddist faith. What does he know about Buddists and redemption? I didn’t even bristle at above video. He was just a pompous ass when being interviewed by O’Reilly though. He felt the public tore him up because he mentioned Jesus Christ. He missed the point.
“No Brit, it is because you are a self serving ass! What has worked for him might not work for anyone else.”
Tell that to the Pope, and to every preacher out there “saving souls”.
“He didn’t need to take a shot at the Buddist faith.”
It’s a mild shot. Buddhism came up because Woods is Buddhist. I myself bash Christians when a prominent Christian does something bad, so I don’t begrudge Hume this train of thought.
I don’t think it’s so much important as it is just silly – Hume looks very silly in the original clip. Haven’t seen the O’Reilly interview, but why get worked up about it? You know what to expect.
It wasn’t Meghan Kelly he supposedly had an affair with … she’s far too hot for that … she’s considered a “babe” by many lonely men who watch FOX and start web sites like this one – http://www.foxnewsgirls.com/
Not worked up. Just responding to the post. Yea it was Meghan Kelly that the rumor was about. Now I am not saying that either one of them was fooling around. I am just saying he and she were the rumored couple. I can’t imagine why she would fool around with him either. Her name was something else then.
I don’t think Tiger Woods has ever made a big deal out of his religion, therefore I wouldn’t take a swipe at it. I would take a swipe at someone who set themselves up as better or more righteous than the next guy. Fair game then when they fall off their self-imposed pedestal.
Rick, you need to a look at the link I left above. That MOST certainly is Meghan Kelly. I can’t imagine any of Fox New’s Foxes would want anything to do with Brit.
Oh, it WAS her, thank you … I have a hard time believing that one.
They used to have even better looking female anchors and commentators. The cutest one IMO is the human pit bull Michelle Malkin.
Here’s someone’s 11 hottest FOX News Anchors – http://nextround.net/2009/04/15/the-11-hottest-fox-news-reporters/
And some fine galleries up at http://www.cameroncole.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=News_Babes/Fox_News – if I were to pick one to round-table with I’d go with Lauren Green or Dari Alexander.
I recall from web browsing years ago that there are various Yahoo Newsgroups and places for picture trading of these women. They’re bona fide sex symbols to a niche crowd of angry white men.
And if I were a horn dog, I know which news station I would watch.
Rick, one more thing, I am not sure if they became sex symbols to a group of angry white men or if the white men became angry because the sex symbols kept telling them to be angry, if you get my drift.
I think that old Rupert Murdoch knew what sold to his own gender and decided it was time for the cavemen to start knuckledragging. Just call it endoctrination by testosterone.
Luk 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;
To an obedient Christian, this is a command. To anyone else, sage advice. I thought this was forum was supposed to be a place where opinions could be expressed without fear of attack by a mob. Afterall, isn’t that what you complained about regarding the “Dark Site” Such Hypocrisy. Brit Hume expressed his opinion, based on his Christian beliefs. The #1 tenent of Christianity is that it is that once someone has heard the “word”, the only was to salvation, redemption etc. is through Christ. The O’riley Factor is an analysis & opinion show.
I thought this was supposed to be the “Anti-BVBL site”, where civility reigns. Where “we can disagree, without being disagreeable”. No, the level of discussion here has devolved to an attack on Brit Hume, because of his faith, the fact that he came to it late in life after a personal tragedy, and some unsubstantiated rumors of a supposed affair with a female anchor. Next, it has become a discussion on the relative attractiveness of the rumored parties, and eventually an attack on all male FNC viewers.
I am a Christian. I pray for Tiger and his family. I don’t condone what he did, but I cannot condemn him for it. I hope he comes to realize that no matter your faith, a husband should not dishonor his wife, and a wife should not dishonor her husband. I don’t condemn you all here either…”my log, your speck”. I pray that you all come to understand that the opposite of “Judgement” is not “Tolerance”. The opposite of “Judgement” is “Mercy”.
Oh, I wouldn’t blame the women of FOX News for making the angry men angry. They are the kinder, gentler side of right-wing news. I am sure their presence only placates the viewers, who get their anger from the Becks and the Hannitys.
With the exception of Malkin. That woman has spirit. She used to fill in for Bill O’Reilly, and really go fire-and-brimstone.
I can’t stand her. The only one I dislike worse is Ann Coulter. Shudder.
Well, Murdoch is no dummy. He knows sex sells. i just think it is sort of hypocritical.
Thanks Brit, now the Buddists are going to consider it a sacred duty to
blast us “infidels” to smitherens! Good grief!
Saved, we try to be polite to one another. We did not say we were vying for sainthood.
No one attacked Brit Hume for his Christianity. That was explained.
Obviously this blog is a little too rough for you. You seem to be one of those Christians who believe that your version of Christianity is the only way to fly. That feeling mandates judgement, by definition. Perhaps if Mr. Hume had not judged, he would not now be in the position of being judged. He missed the point about why his words were objectionable to some. He must not have been the only one.
I’ve NEVER seen anyone here claim sainthood.
Saved, in case you haven’t noticed the world is full of hypocrites. My guess is many of them are Christians. I sure didn’t attack his religion or judge him. I stated my opinion that is my First Amendment right. Good for him for finding at some point in his life. It’s really kind of sad that it took a personal tragedy for him to find religion, but I guess late is better than never. Looks like you’re doing a fine job of casting your judgment of hypocrites and this site.
@Saved
>>> I thought this was forum was supposed to be a place where opinions could be expressed without fear of attack by a mob.
You’re new here. You’ll catch on. [cheshire cat grin]
As much as I’d love to defend the guy…..can’t do it. Hume’s comments are nothing short of bone-headed.
Bone-headed, but at least my tax dollars don’t pay his salary. He’s entitled to his opinion, and viewers are entitled to channel-surf at will.
Emma,
You are absolutely right on! That is what I love about satellite, lots of choices, not like the old days when we had five channels (uh oh, did I date myself)!
Welcome Saved,
No one here has “attacked” Brit Hume for his belief in Christianity. But as person of Jewish faith, I am personally offended that he would suggest HIS belief is the only way to climb out of a deep pit of pain. I listened to him talk on WTOP about his beliefs and I am glad he has found such personal peace. However, what he suggested was the Christianity reigned above all the other religions. I would NEVER suggest that MY religion was superior, in ANY way, to another religion.
Ann Coulter is the worst of the worst.
“I would NEVER suggest that MY religion was superior, in ANY way, to another religion.”
Then why bother believing in the fairy tale in the first place?
Ring, if you ever feel like you are being swarmed by a mob here, please email me. I don’t know of anyone being attacked by a mob here.
Emma, how do you feel about YOUR tax dollars paying for a war that many people oppose?
I do have one question here. If the Brit Hume and Meghan Kelly thing is only an unproven rumor, why are WE helping to spread it?
Apples and oranges, Moon. Government isn’t supposed to proselytize, but it is empowered to provide for the common defense, whether I agree with that defense or not.—which, in the case of Iraq, I never supported.
“A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker.
A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.”
Buddha
Ok, except on Foxy “news”?
Wolverine, I believe each person who has discussed it has said it was a rumor. For that matter, much of the Tiger Woods ‘allegation’ are rumor also, at least as far as the public goes. Mr. Hume is not without controversy in his life. The other reason is, we have the human condition. No sainthood on Anti.
Emma, I don’t know why we would be called on to pay for Mr. Hume to proselytize in the first place. Let Murdoch foot that bill. I don’t think we get a line item veto on what we pay for and what we don’t. I don’t know how these things are decided.
Any time there are articles like this for people to comment on, we put ourselves in the position of judging and evaluating, even if we don’t voice our conclusions.
In fact, the person who admonished us(actually I think it was I who got judged) for judging was judging us. It is another human condition.
Well, Moon, every time one brings up the existence of an unproven rumor, even if one states it is a rumor, one just serves to spread it further without having the least bit of evidence as to its veracity. Given the way things go these days, that line about “There is a rumor that Brit and Meghan. had..” soon becomes “I heard that Brit and Meghanhad..” and eventually winds up being “Brit and Meghan had…” Better in my book to lay off the rumors. That includes anything regarding Tiger Woods. Just sayin’
Hopefully no one will repeat as fact something that has clearly been stated is a rumor. If they do that, they probably aren’t beneath making it up in the first place.
And on the subject of rumors, I think we try hard here not to spread rumors or intentionally tell things as fact that aren’t substantiated. If it happens, we correct. I think rumor here was germane to the discussion…perhaps not for everyone, but clearly stated as rumor, not fact.
Well Rick, I am not a bible thumper for sure, but I believe in the tenants that religion offers, the tenets of believing that life is more than just what makes you feel good, and that there is something (even I don’t believe that there is one right way to worship, I really don’t)bigger than one human being. What is more important is that people utilized the basic human respect that I believe Reglion promotes. It’s human beings that have twisted and DEmoralized what I believe religion was intended to do. For that, I am very sad.@Rick Bentley
Wolverine,
My intent was NOT to spread rumors it was to point out that Mr. Hume is flawed just like any other human being and was not squeeky clean himself. That was all. Get over it. Thanks, for sharing YOUR opinion on the rumor issue. Furthermore, you writing about is still helping to “spread” it. It was always clearly stated…he had RUMORS(key word) flying around about him.
Go look at some other blogs. One reported a local school being on lock down with no reason why it was. They stated a rumor that mabe it was custody issue. A serious stabbing happened blocks from the school last Friday night. The child of the victim probably attends Sudley Elementary in Sudley. When you live in the WG/Sudley as some of do, the first thing that I would think would come to one’s mind would be that were looking for the stabbing suspect. However, that was even listed as a possibility. I found it very odd that such a violent crime wasn’t even mentioned on that blog when it happened a stone’s throw from that blogs HQ. Meanwhile, there is still a woman fighting for her life and thug that should’ve been behind bars years ago for their laundry list of crimes is running loose.
oops..was NOT even listed as a possibility.
Saved, if you want to pray for someone. I hope you have my “neighbor” in your prayers that she survives this violent attack.
The fact that there is still a violent criminal loose in that neighborhood is very troubling. Lafayette, is there any reverse phoning going out to those in that neighborhood to warn people of danger?
Moon, I’m sorry to say that there have been NO reverse 911 calls that went out on this one. This happened the next block over me. But last year we got them when Lexie Glover went missing and that was two neighborhoods away or about a mile. My husband and I were both discussing this very topic last night. I’m just not sure what the protocol is for the reverse phoning, but it is the opinion of this household that this stabbing incident would warrant the calls to go out to those in the immediate area at the very least.
Saved,
I have a question for you. What if Bit Hume, had instead said “Although I know that Tiger was raised as a Christian, I believe, that only Islam has the ability to offer him real forgiveness and redemption and I hope he becomes a muslim” How would you feel about THAT suggestion?
O’Reilly asked Hume if he thought he was proselytizing. Hume said no. I don’t think people realize they are doing it, but yea he was. I am not sure at this point there is a difference in evangelizing and proselytizing.
Is it wrong to do? No, not necessarily. But if you do either to too wide of an audience, you will be criticized. I think those kinds of statements need to be corralled in, especially in a plural society.
People assume that Christians are all alike. We are just as different, if not more so, than the various sects in the religion of Islam.
“I believe in the tenants that religion offers, the tenets of believing that life is more than just what makes you feel good, and that there is something (even I don’t believe that there is one right way to worship, I really don’t)bigger than one human being. ”
A. Religion itself is, paradoxically, undertaken because “it makes you feel good”
B. Beleif in a larger cause obviously can lead to horrific things
“What is more important is that people utilized the basic human respect that I believe Reglion promotes. ”
I understand your arguement and have nothing snide to say for once.
“It’s human beings that have twisted and DEmoralized what I believe religion was intended to do. For that, I am very sad.”
As it says on the back of Jethro Tull’s “Aqualung” LP – “In the beginnning Man created God; and in the image of Man created he him”.
Thanks Rick, very sincere response and I appreciate that.
Lafayette, my comments were addressed to action, possibly unintended, not intent. But I did get the sense from some of the posts that the rumors about Brit Hume and Meghan Kelly were being used as a way to imply that Hume might be a hypocrite with regard to his statements about religion. Now, I’ve got no quarrel with those who were put off by the nature of what Hume said. I didn’t think too much of his statements either. But I do have to question the logic of implying that a person is a hyprocrite on the basis of unsubstantiated rumors.
Elena,
Thanks for the welcome. I have read this blog for some time, but this is the first time I have felt moved to post.
As someone who has accepted a Jew as his savior (people seem to forget that Jesus was born, lived, and died as a Jew), I appreciate your Jewish faith, and I believe that we worship the same God. My comments were not intended to offend, and if offense was taken, then I appologize. As to the responses of the various contributors to this discussion, I take no offense from them. My faith needs no defense, as I do believe that Christ died for my sins, and the sins of every person who ever lived, or who is yet to live. I judge no one here. I am in no position to judge, nor have I been given the authority to judge. There is a difference between delivering judgement, and delivering a rebuke. Even Christ said only the Father can judge, but he would deliver a rebuke when people needed it, and he did so to beter his neighbor, not tear him down. I think some non-Christians (one who follows a non-Christian faith, Athiests, Agnostics) and marginal Christians (those who identify as Christians, but don’t live by the most basic gospel teachings) often cannot distinguish between the two. For example, if I were to tell the world I am a Christian, yet dishonor my spouse in a malicious manner, and a brother or sister in the faith said “you need to go read this piece of scripture, pray, ask your spouse to forgive you, and set about being a better help-mate, this could be interpreted either way. If the brother telling me to do this was a cheater, then he would be a hypocrite. If he was doing this to raise himself above me, he would be judging me. But, if he was someone who honored his marriage and his sole desire was peace and joy in my marriage, then he would be delivering a rebuke. I think this is what Mr. Hume intended, but then again, I don’t know his heart.
To your point of would I be offended if Mr. Hume was a Muslim, and made the statement you suggest, the answer is, most definitely I would not be offended, nor would I be offended if it were presented in a Hindu, Jewish, or other faith-based context. I would not because I am not the subject, and therefore cannot take offense. Now, had Mr. Hume said “I am a Christian. I believe that Woods is a sinner, and should be cast into a lake of fire and tormented for eternity for his sins”, I would be drafting a strong rebuke to Mr. Hume. While the punishment for sin may be eternal damnation, it would be wrong for Mr. Hume to A) Condemn Tiger as a sinner & B) to ascribe a punishment for that sin.
I can’t force someone to believe what I believe. I can only try to live by His example, and will continue to fall short of His glory. I can only live by grace, and try to love my neighbor, as I was commanded to do. I pray for everyone here, Jew, Gentile, Christian and Agnostic.
Wolverine,
I didn’t ever imply he was a hypocrite. My point was he was not perfect and had rumors of an affair surrounding him[Hume] as well as Tiger did. I don’t care who sleeps with who that’s their private business as is religion. I’ve have NOT listened to the Tiger situation because it doesn’t concern me or anyone other than his wife and children. I just think Hume was out of line implying his religion was superior to that of another.
Marginal Christian, to me, is an offensive term. I think those people prefer the term ‘mainstream Christian.’ It is almost impossible to hide that fundamentalist Christians consider themselves to be of the one true faith and that those who are not fundamentalist are apostates.
Had Mr. Hume suggested that he found comfort in turning to Jesus Christ and perhaps Tiger Woods would also, that sounds a little different. I also saw Hume on several different shows. He appeared to be exclusionary in his definition of ‘Christian.’
Moon Howler,
I think there is a world of difference between “marginal” and “mainstream”, but that is my opinion. What exactly is a “fundamentalist” Christian, and how would one differentiate between that and the “mainstream”? I know many marginal Christians. I don’t think I have ever met a fundamentalist or a mainstream Christian. The marginal Christians I know admit that while they identify themselves as Christians, ie. they believe that Christ was the son of God and died for their sins, they haven’t yet accepted Christ as their savior, confessed to their savior that they are indeed sinners, accepted foregivness for those sins…even as they continue to sin. I was once a “marginal Christian”. Does that mean all of a sudden I ceased to be a sinner? No. What it means is I have committed to a daily walk with Christ. When I sin (daily), I ask for forgiveness (daily). This isn’t a “sprinkle vs. dunk” debate. It’s not a “did you get your weekly church attendance checked off” or how many passages of scripture they have memorized… or did you “convert an unbeliever” debate. All are wordly measures.
Marginal means just that: on the margin. Not a measure of someones place in line to get into heaven. Not a measure of one’s worldly worthiness. More a measure of where someone is in their relationship with Jesus. Go to the Book. It says what you need to do to be a Christian, and a follower of Christ:
1. Faith that He is who He says he is, that He died to attone for our sins, and he rose from the grave, and accept that He did that for YOU.
2. Love your neighbor, as He loves you.
3. Forgive as you have been forgiven.
That’s pretty much it according to my understanding of the scripture. Simple to achieve salvation, according to the Christian faith (not intending to be exclusionary to all those of different faiths and traditions). Tough to do #2 & #3 in practice. Not saying I’ve got them down. Maybe Mother Theresa did, don’t know. Not my place to say either way. However, I am pretty sure on #1. Jesus said so.
Saved,
I appreciate your sincerity, you are speaking from your heart. However, what Mr. Hume did was NOT simply talk about how HE personally found peace and forgiveness in Christ, What he said was that and this is almost verbatum, that he believed Tiger buddist, not sure how much he practiced, but that he did not believe Buddism could off the kind of healing that ONLY Christianity could offer, he also gave the same reasons as you , Christ died for our sins, etc. My point is that Mr. Hume has absolutely no place in suggesting that someones faith is inferior for healing. I find that extremely offensive, as do many other people apparently. This discussion is NOT about Christianity, it is about respecting other peoples faiths or EVEN lack thereof.
You sound like you are judging who is and who is not a “real” Christian. It isn’t your place to interpret the bible and suggest you know who is and who is not Christian.
My personal belief is that I could care less if you believe in G-d or how you “prove” your faith, if you live by the most important rule, the golden rule, you are on the best path in life.
Saved, I echo Elena’s sentiments.
Many Christians do not use the same criteria as you do in determining who is Christian and who is not. Many good, decent and devout Christian people who are protestant and Catholic do not use the born-again test as a benchmark. Others do and this is fine, as long as they understand that not everyone comes to Christianity as Paul did.
Those same people generally find it offensive to imply that they are marginal Christians, especially when the common definition of ‘marginal’ is ‘barely or lower standard.’
Here’s a whole update about the Brit Hume story and a fun Photoshop image for you to download and pass around if you want.
Have fun.
http://www.thatguitarman.com
Here’s the image!!!
http://www.thatguitarman.com/images/brit-the-baptist.jpg
PEACE
– David