Jon Stewart might just be the Tea Party’s new BFF.
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Why is it ok to make sweeping generalizations about Liberals? Democrats? The Left? The FAR Left?
What is that about removing the plank from thy own eye?
And on to the Tea Party Rally….was Stewart’s coverage fair?
That was good. Funny.
And many of the “generalizations” about the liberals came from direct statements made by liberal leaders, Congressmen and Senators. But some were over the top.
The generalizations about the Tea Party were demonstrably false. So, now, instead of ignorant rednecks, the spin is going to be that they’re rich hypocrites. They use Medicare!….
Which they’ve already paid for. It’s the coming taxes that we don’t want. It’s the spending. Tax revenues are down because of the depression. Of course my family paid less taxes. I made $0 last year. Heck, one problem is that 40% of the population pays NO taxes.
But, other than that, Stewart was good on this one. Not my BFF, but, fair, especially for him.
Agree with Cargosquid. That was a pretty good piece by Jon. As I said before, he can make me laugh in spite of myself. His hand and facial gestures are truly a comedic gem.
Now for another view, heard yesterday on a tape on the radio. It seems that an African-American participant at one of the 15 April rallies was approached by a reporter and asked a racially loaded question. She wanted to know if the man felt “uncomfortable” at a demonstration like this, implying, of course, that the rally seemed to have far more Whites than minorities. The man’s simple response: “Why should I feel uncomfortable? We’re all Americans here.”
Just remember that it only takes a few jerks to give people a mind set. Look what some people think about non-conservatives.
We all take extemes out of the general population of people and form our opinions. It is human nature.
I still go back to last last summer. That really left a bad taste in my mouth.
@Wolverine NewsBusters is one of my favorite Facebook sites now, because it cuts through all of the BS. Here’s the video to that NBC report you referred to. That was an unbelievably loaded, prejudicial question the reporter asked. Journalism as we thought we knew it is truly dead. If you’re not on Facebook, here’s the link through the Media Research Center:
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100416091249.aspx
Would you all like it posted as a permanent page up top? I am glad to do it.
Newsbusters.org has been posted under political daily news tab up top.
Ok, here’s my problem. I am going to try to be fair. If I listened to Fox News I need to balance it with another station and somehow meet in the middle. If I read Huffington Post all the time, I need to balance it out with a different electronic paper. When you say something cuts through all the BS, all you will get it what you want to hear. I don’t care if you are listening to liberal or conservative.
As for the reporter asking the black man if he feels uncomfortable…whnat donkey brain would walk up to anyone and ask something like that. What that segment proves is that the reporter is stupid. Nothing more.
Haven’t seen the video(es) as I’m having an issue with my video software.. I’ll fix it tommorow but thought that this was an interesting take. I don’t agree with it 100% but figured it’d be fun fodder for the peanut gallary.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/16/clinton.okc/index.html?hpt=T2
(CNN) — Former President Clinton said he sees parallels in the mood of the country now and on April 19, 1995, when the bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City killed 168 people while he was in the White House.
That would be great. NewsBusters also has a weekly spoof newscast.@Moon-howler
Let me know if it doesn’t work. Any time you have a site you want posted permanently, let me know. I find it easier just to have them up there. I have 2 categories….regular news (post, TD, N&M etc) and the political news stuff. @ Emma.
Making Generalizations: Making generalizations about an entire group based on our experience with a few is natural, I find. The trick is to be conscious of our natural tendency to do that and resist it.
Mrs. Guapo has a positive experience her first encounter with a black man. She dropped her wallet in the Rosslyn metro station, and a young black man chased her down to return it to her. To this day I think that affects her view of black people. Now when she has a negative encounter with a black person, she views it as a dispute with just that one person, not the entire group. Would she react differently if her first few encounters with black folks were negative? Maybe.
Wasn’t it just last week there was a discussion about making generalizations about tea partiers because one person may have used the N-word? Even if someone did use the N-word, it’s still illogical to draw a conclusion about thousands of people just because of the actions of one.
All generalizations are false.
Yes there was discussion. The premise of the thread was there are a few jerks everywhere in all crowds and it is counter-productive to dwell on them.
I think it is a totally ridiculous fight to be having. Some dude on the street corner can ruin it for any group. Not everyone agrees with my premise. Oh well. That’s what makes horse races, according to Mark Twain.
I learned early on not to say ‘my child would never….’ because I knew they would do whatever to spite me.
It’s interesting to me. I believe that the TEA party, from the beginning, with their metaphors of socialism, nazis, and being the “real patriots” is what created their distasteful image to many of us. I recall, very recently, sitting with someone who shared they believed the TEA party was dangerous to the future of his country. I thought that was a little strong at the time, but certainly he had a right to feel concerned with the intolerance of the message that was coming from the TEA party. Does this ring a bell?@El Guapo
Moon, I think we may have to agree to disagree on that Newsbusters.org video. “Donkey brain” may be valid with regard to this particular reporter; but the whole incident struck me as yet another episode in an effort by some in the media to try to dig up a negative racial tag to stick on the entire Tea Party movement. This particular episode struck me as an act of desperation on the part of the reporter, who was apparently in disbelief that an African-American could possibly be part of the crowd.
BTW, are you still getting laid low by this wind-blown pollen deluge? I tell you, I and Mrs. W having been dragging around here like a pair of zombies the last couple of days. An I’ve never been allergic to anything in my entire life!!
She was definitely a donkey brain. I don’t have the greatest love in the world for reporters of any persuassion. I find that they can ask real lame brain questions. Even donkey brained ones. I would rather just watch and see for myself and draw my own conclusions.
Someone is always trying to get something on someone else. The reporter in question ‘like it or not.’ arrgghhh so what. Its an expression. Same kind of donkey brains generating both.
And yes. I was zombied after being out 5 minutes this evening. Never seen anything like it. I cant see, smell or taste.
And now we know the cause of the coming zombie apocalypse…….
Brrrraaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnsssaaaggggghhhh……CHOOOO!
@cargosquid I’ve laid in my supply of Twinkies for the coming zombie apocalypse–have you?
I hope you both have a bad pollen attack this week 😉
That was funny. The Tea Partiers bitch and whine about being unfairly steroptypes, but then do the same damn thing themselves.
Aaaahhh, but the Liberal stereotype does have some basis in fact, while the stereotype for the TEA Party was being manufactured out of whole cloth…….
Of course, I realize, you won’t accept that……
@Starryflights Where were you when the movie “Death of a President came out in 2006, a thinly-veiled attempt to depict the assassination of George W. Bush? Were you outraged at the idea of such a movie, or were you in the front row, cheering so hard you spilled your Raisinets?
All of this fake “fear” of TEA party “violence” is so ridiculously self-righteous from liberals who had no problems with the previous President being burned in effigy and depicted in a movie designed to incite violence against him.
And once again, I am forced to correct Cargosquid peddled nonsense. Medicare is not paid for – read and learn from today’s WaPost:
The perils of the value-added tax
By George F. Will
Sunday, April 18,
And, as will happen for two decades, every day 10,000 more baby boomers are joining the ranks of recipients of Medicare and Social Security, two programs with unfunded liabilities of nearly $107 trillion.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/16/AR2010041603993.html
Paid for? $107 trillion in unfunded debt isn’t paid for, dude.
The Tea Party stereotypes also has basis in facts, such as when the Tea Parties called a black congressman a “ni**er” and a gay congressmen a “fa**ot” [editor notation: I doctored a few words left here that had gotten hung up in moderation. Not trying to squelch your opinion Starry but would prefer those words not be standing out here on ‘howlings. Not everyone is our friend.]
@Starryflights
All of those taxes that come out of your paycheck for Medicare don’t pay for it? Why thank you. You just made the Tea Party very happy.
THAT is the problem. We are taxed enough. The liberals like you want to spend more of the money we don’t haveon additional programs, even though, the government hasn’t handled one competently. Obama, et all, state that Obama Care will cut costs etc, yet CAN’T FUND MEDICARE with the taxes they ALREADY TAKE OUT. They are lying to us.
Your point that its NOT PAID FOR is the point. But the people using it are paying for it through taxes. We pay for it and we’re not using it. Yet, its horribly, horribly in the red.
So, its being paid for or purchase, or….whatever you want to call it, but, its not “paid for.” People expect to be able to use it because their taxes have paid for it their entire lives. If you can’t understand….never mind. I forgot who I was discussing this with…….go ahead Starry….show more willful ignorance……
Don’t go all apoplectic on us, Cargo – quit, somebody get this man his pills!
Social Security and Medicare are what are known as “unfunded liabilities”, meaning that participants withdraw more in benefits than they pay in – even after allowing for a reasonable rate of return.
The taxes withdrawn from your biweekly paychecks are used to pay the benefits for those who are already retired.
In 2003, George W Bush and the Republican Congress expanded Medicare to include prescription drugs, thus ballooning the deficit more than ever.
So if you’re serious about deficit reduction, you need to recognize that social security and, especially, medicare, are the two largest deficit drivers of anything else in the federal budget.
Once you have recognzied that fact, then you have to make a choice of either 1) reducing benefits or 2) controlling costs, particularly healthcare costs. And that’s where healthcare reform comes in.
Some conservatives, such as Mr George Will above, would just as soon cut benefits and eventually do away with both social security and medicare altogether. This leads us to the old maxim, “Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it.”
Starry, you are absolutely correct. Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are ponzi schemes. And the government implies that the citizens are paying for it, especially SS. When the gov’t sends me that “account” status, it shows me how much I’ve paid into SS, and implies that I have an actual account. Every SS check comes from the general fund, because Congress uses the money from your SS tax to pay for other things. And Congress does not want to change that because it would force them to lock in SS taxes into SS. If we must have SS taxes, let the taxes buy government bonds with them under our names. The return would be better. But the accounts would be transferable after death. And the gov’t would have a fiduciary responsibility to pay us.
I have no problem with privatizing SS. Reforming the other system will take years to get away from the government mismanagement. Too many citizens are dependent upon the largess of the government. As I said before, put EVERYTHING on the table and prioritize it. No more omnibus bills. Defense to Medicare, nothing is sacred. Nothing is AN ENTITLEMENT.
I actually wasn’t opposed to privatizing SS over a period of time, until the crash of 2008 happened. However, what on earth would you do with those people who refused to contribute to something on their own?
Would we hear the same howling over having to ‘buy’ a product? I don’t see the difference.