Although not mentioned, Virginia was one of those states.
According to the Richmond Times Dispatch:
Richmond, Va. —
Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli joined eight other states today in support of Arizona’s new immigration law.The amicus brief, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, defends Arizona’s and all states’ authority to enforce federal immigration laws along with the federal government. This is particularly true because of the selective and lack of enforcement by the federal government, the brief states.
“While much of border enforcement is left to the federal government, federal law expressly allows states to arrest people who are not legally present in the United States,” Cuccinelli said in a statement.
“Arizona’s law doesn’t change any of this. That’s why we are stunned that the government has sued Arizona.”
The Arizona, set to take effect July 29, requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to question a person’s immigration status if there’s a reasonable suspicion that the person is in the country illegally.
It also makes it a crime for legal immigrants not to carry documentation of their status in the U.S.
The Obama administration has filed suit against the Arizona law, contending that federal law pre-empts the Arizona statute. It seeks an injunction against its enforcement.
How many briefs and law suits has the AG files since his inauguration? More importantly, how much has all of this cost? Those $350 filing fees are going to add up.
That’s odd since that exact legislation was opposed in the only county where it was introduced.
By whose authority does Cuccinelli file this amicus brief? I thought the governor was leery of the AZ law.
Cuccinelli has never met a lawsuit he doesn’t like, apparently.
Mr. Howler just came through and reminded me that Virginia was one of 2 states in the entire union who did not file an amicus brief against Westboro Baptist for demonstating at military funerals and disasters. He refers to the AG as Cockamamy.
Notice the AG doesn’t mention anything about potential racial profiling or how demanding papers of suspected “illegals” would affect the Hispanic community.
And MH, your information on VA and Westboro is just discouraging. In my mind, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. Westboro is clearly a hate-group. What does that make our great state?
Does the AG need any permission to file anything?
Free speech – though disgusting in the Wesboro example – is a much different argument than Federal efforts to limit the State’s right to enforce the existing law, defend against unfunded mandates (social services for illegals) selective non-enforcement in the context of racial preferences for illegal immigrants and related political power and, oh, a Party overtly circumventing the law to seek political advantage by proimising no enforcement and amnesty for criminal tresspassers– not to mention the issues of crime, education…
I will grant you that join in filing agaisnt Westboro would have been politically expediant, but not good law or good for our Constitution. Sunk costs about the same – incremental costs $0
If this is Cockamamy – I want more of them in office.
Pulling in party members for political advantage is such overblown bull crap. Pure speculation and political rhetoric. No one has explained yet how non-citizens are going to be able to vote. Logical people will not buy in to that nonsense.
Take the Cockamamy to your birth state and let him embarrass it.
He will not be re-elected….my prediction.
Moon,
All I can say is……GO COOCH! My prediction is that, unless the Dems get a good candidate, Cooch will be re-elected AG or he may mess up the “succession” order and run against Bolling for Governor.
He snuck up on Virginia. That happens occassionally. I doubt if it will happen again. He is been too much of a firebrand as well as a loose cannon. That election had very low voter turn out.
I just wouldn’t bet the ranch that he will be re-elected to anything.
Agreed Cargo.
My prediction is that PWC and the vast majority of Americans see the Federal suit for what it is and will express that sentiment in the November elections. I mean, after all , even the Washington Post, that bastion of non ideological journalism, has noted that the Administration needs to push the panick buttom – and it has, it is bringing Clinton back in as surrogate.
Its tough when the law and the Constitution get in the way of a liberal progressive socialist agenda. Go Cooch!
By my definition, dumb is being ignorant about something once but stupid is being ignorant about the same thing twice. Are there really enough stupid people in the Commonwealth to get Cuccinelli reelected to AG much less governor?
It is possibile that this is part of a concerted conservative cabal to disrupt the operation of the DOJ to the point that it becomes dysfuntional. Worse yet, if the Arizona thing blows up and there are extensive riots, will it cause the president to nationalize the Arizona National Guard to put down the riots? Then what happens?
Actually, I secretly hope that the Feds win the case on a specific technical statutory basis – so that it can go to the Supreme Court – and that SCOTUS also rules in favor of the specifically statutory provision. The slippery slope to November will become a landslide.
I know, I kow, I am full of crap – right Moon? – sort of like the headeer that this is not your typical ideologue blog. No, it pretty much is.
Self realization is an important thing, tp.
PWC,
I wouldn’t call this your typical liberal ideologue blog. On those, they don’t post the conservative comments and just go “la la la la la la la la!” and put their fingers in their collective ears. After calling you a racist and telling you to shut up.
I agree with our AG on this. To me this essentially boils down to two things. The States ability to defend it’s borders ‘n lands and basic property rights.
For example, if Demmy the Democrat had a home invader that went into his home, slept on his bed, ate from his pantry and used his privy facilities Demmy (unarmed of course {chuckle}) would contact the local constables and have the person removed off his land/property. Demmy owns his house and can decide who or who may not enter it.
As a nation we collectively own the United States of America. We are it’s landowners, it’s deedholder, the King of our castle. Someone that doesn’t have our permission to be here is entering it and is eating at our table, sleeping in our bed and watching our tv.. We have every right as a soverign nation to boot that person out and/or allow those that we deem worthy in.
I side with the anti-illegal arguement on the whole and only break with them on some of the finer details.
I think on the whole AZ is right. Some things may need to be tweaked but as an American that happens to be latino, I think AZ is doing the right thing.
I will vote for Cuccinilli again in a heartbeat. He’s only disappointed me once and that’s a good track record for someone that doesn’t mind getting in the mix.
What does it get him? How does filing an amicus brief help Virginia?
Cuccinelli is a loose cannon. Who asked him to do this or did he just take it upon himself?
Why can’t Arizona do like Rhode Island and participate in a 287(g) program? (It would probably be Secure Communities program if they joined now.) @marin
As a constitutional officer of the Commonwealth he’s required to uphold and defend the constitution. As the chief law enforcer of the Commonwealth he’s charged with protecting the state from lawbreakers and bringing them to justice.
I think this would be less of an issue if the feds followed the laws they made instead of leaving an unfilled vacuum. People start losing respect for the law when they see it being doled out with such bias.
Is Cuccinelli completely ignorant of what happend in his own state? Is he not aware that FAIR already tried this in PWC and it failed, MISERABLY? Is he not aware that a Republican led BOCS RESCINDED the probable cause portion, unanimously, and would not even ENACT, from the very beginning, many of the other tenants of the origin resolutions. For instance, the one component that would hava allowed citizens to sue ANY government employee, like teachers, school counselors, etc. if they had knowledge of someone being out of status. Why has no one informed of these very relevant issues?
Marimn,
How many billions are willing to invest, how high to you want your taxes raised to have zero tolerance policy on out of status immigrants?
Elena, that’s a great question. Can you provide the financial breakdown across all 95 counties as to increase in cost/services required and what the outlay will be required to meet it?
I think what you meant to say was that cost on the county level will go up – no doubt. Each police officer that arrests a person for being an illegal (or the time to investigate) is a cost. The time to shuttle that person to the magistrate, the cost of housing him in the ADC, the cost of processing his information, the cost of the prisoner’s healthcare, his housing, etc.
But, then I could make the same arguement about…. any other class 1 or class 2 misdemenor.
So, while I think your question on the whole is a fair one – what will be the cost to the taxpayers for action vice the cost of inaction – I say if we have that discussion let’s figure out the real numbers and not just toss out the “b” word.
Cuccinelli knows. He used to hang out with HSM.
Marin, how is what’s happening in AZ protecting Virginia from lawbreakers?
Do I have to post another video about the concept of ‘criminal’ as it relates to illegal immigrants.
@George S. Harris
By my definition, dumb is being ignorant about something once but stupid is being ignorant about the same thing twice.
What if it works the second time? Is it still stupid?
Are there really enough stupid people in the Commonwealth to get Cuccinelli reelected to AG much less governor?
I certainly hope so.
It is possibile that this is part of a concerted conservative cabal to disrupt the operation of the DOJ to the point that it becomes dysfuntional. Worse yet, if the Arizona thing blows up and there are extensive riots, will it cause the president to nationalize the Arizona National Guard to put down the riots? Then what happens?
Depends on who riots. Knowing Obamao, if the supporters of the law riot, then, yea, he’d probably come down hard. If those opposed to the law riot, he’d probably ignore the rioting like he does border security, and national sovereignty, in general.
Anyone can wear a tin-foil hat, my friend.
I would think the states of the old Confederacy would love the Arizona stance. It’s very Calhoun-ian. But I thought this had all been settled at swordpoint in favor of the Webster-ian view.
Maybe the old Confederacy relocated in AZ.