Another storm headed our way,  another day of 90 plus degree weather, more killed by drunk driving, No BOCS meetings until Sept. 14.   I will pin this to the top for a couple of days.  That seemed to work out. 

Is everyone able to navigate this blog ok?

110 Thoughts to “Open Thread Week of August 16, 2010”

  1. marinm

    Moon-howler :Marin, you buy gold, don’t you?
    How do you buy gold buffalo?

    Gold buffalo? Wha? I’m lost. 🙂

  2. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    I think the gold buffalo is a particular coin. I could be wrong. I like Silver Eagles. I buy a bunch each year. Worst that could happen, I’ll give them to my boys. I like the ‘ting’ of silver better than gold.

  3. marinm

    Ahh.. Hard assets do appeal to me. But like Slow, I prefer the look of silver over that of gold. But my favorite is platinum.

  4. The gold buffalo coins. I just like buffalo.

    How much are the silver eagles a piece? Do you feel compelled to keep them in a safety deposit box?

  5. Moon,

    Here’s the info at http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/buffalo24k/?flash=yes

    However, if you are buying gold coins, be aware that the buffalo is 24 carat, very soft and easily scratched. If scratched the value drops. If you are buying coins for gold, there are other coins that are more durable and still contain .999 troy ounces of gold.

    Also, coins cost more than bullion. Higher premiums.

    Silver, compared to gold, is very low price.

  6. And savor these words, Slowpoke was right about the buffalo gold coin.

    Silver does ting better than gold. The gold in those buffalo coins is real soft anyway from what I can tell.

    So how do you buy them? How about a lesson?

  7. cargo, you just talked me out of a buffalo. I can buy a beanie baby buffalo.

    Don’t buy buffalo turquoise…it is fake. Usually howlite.

    So whata kind of silver coins to people buy? Is that a higher premium?

    I don’t want anything that is going to scratch up. 24 carat is way too soft. The buffalo might melt.

  8. Go to Kitco.com

    Go to the Gold forum and lurk for a while. They have gold, silver, platinum and rhodium threads.

    What type of gold and silver you buy depends upon your reasons for buying. Many like straight bullion. Gold is gold. silver is silver. Others like coins for the ease of purchase and selling. Others like “rounds.” The definitions are there.

    Another site: http://goldismoney2.com/forum.php

    Have fun. Don’t spend all your fiat in one place.

  9. Emma

    @Lafayette Caramel apple, please!

  10. @cargo, that is sure sensory overload. I am going to stick to just buying stocks.

    Do you buy silver and gold?

  11. Pat.Herve

    buying the actual commodity is the wrong thing to do. You have to receive it, care for it, secure it, etc. And then to sell it, you have to get it to the right person to evaluate it before you can sell it. You are much better off buying the ETF or the Miner, instead of the actual coin.

  12. Lafayette

    @Emma
    Love the new avatar!!
    You know I’d gladly get that for you. Ask Moon, I am famous to deliver treats. 🙂

  13. Lafayette

    Hit enter to quick and forgot this, Emma.
    Ask her about my fried green tomatoes or homemade lasagne.

  14. Morris Davis

    Palin – Gohmert 2012 …

    … or maybe a better campaign tag would be Screwy and Louie.

    The exchange between Anderson Cooper and Rep (R-TX) Louie Gohmert was a teabagger classic and it’s even funnier with Jon Stewart’s commentary on the Daily Show http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-17-2010/jon-stewart—anderson-cooper-look-at-gaping-holes—security

    I know, like most everyone else I thought Rep. (R-MN) Michelle Bachmann had locked up sole possession of the label “bat sh*t crazy,” but Louie is doing his best to knock her off the guano pile. If the nation is determined to refudiate intelligence and common sense then Palin – Gohmert is the 2012 dream ticket. And after just watching Dr. Laura make an a*s of herself on AC360 I think the dream team my have found a Secretary of State that lives down to their standards; Dr. L is eat up with diplomacy skills.

  15. I love the princess crown also–and not just any princess. An Over-Privileged White Princess.

    Did Disney make a movie about you?

  16. They were delicious, Chris. Also reindeer treats.

  17. Moe, definitely a dream team. Screwy and Louie? Bwaaahahahahahhaha I think that Ann Coulter should be secretary of defense. But then again, she is a professional girl.

    Louie is ….strange. Is he for real? I will do a Jon Stewart. I have been mad at him lately. Time for me to get over it.

  18. Starryflights

    GOP candidate rejects offers to quit Colo gov race

    By STEVEN K. PAULSON, Associated Press Writer Steven K. Paulson, Associated Press Writer – Wed Aug 18, 4:13 pm ET
    DENVER – The Republican gubernatorial candidate in Colorado rejected an offer on Wednesday from former GOP congressman Tom Tancredo for both men to get out of the race and let the party pick a new candidate.

    State Republican Party chairman Dick Wadhams said he delivered the offer to Republican nominee Dan Maes after Tancredo offered it as a compromise to give Republicans a chance to win back the governor’s office in November. Tancredo bolted from the party last month to run as an American Constitution Party candidate.

    “Tom Tancredo contacted me late Monday to indicate he would withdraw from the race for governor if Dan Maes did so as well,” Wadhams said. “I asked Tom for the opportunity to present this offer to Dan Maes, which I did do this morning. I felt it was my responsibility as state chairman to inform Dan of this offer since it held open the possibility of eliminating the current three-way race that gives the Democratic candidate a huge advantage.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_colorado_governor_s_race

    Gosh, I feel so bad that these conservatives are split in Colorado, allowing the Dem to retain the Governor’s office – not! Bwahah!

  19. Starryflights

    Palin a topic in Ariz. GOP face-off

    By KASIE HUNT | 8/18/10 8:50 PM EDT

    The tea party candidate in a close Arizona Republican congressional primary is taking aim at an unusual target: Sarah Palin.

    “I’ve been really, really disappointed by some of these endorsements and some of the things she’s done,” former Marine Sgt. Jesse Kelly said at a small gathering videotaped by former Kelly supporter and Tucson tea party activist Robert Mayer. “She’s got a lot of rehab on her image to do because we need independents to win it, and you don’t need to be less conservative to win independents, but you can’t have your image destroyed, and she needs to rehab that.”

    Kelly, now a project manager at a construction company, is running against GOP state Sen. Jonathan Paton for the right to challenge Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in November.

    Paton immediately slammed Kelly for his remarks. “Jesse sounds more like Keith Olbermann or Joy Behar than a Republican candidate for Congress,” Paton spokesman Daniel Scarpinato said, referring to the two outspoken, liberal talk show hosts

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41243.html#ixzz0x2WfmV00

    Hmm. Looks like the tea partiers are having some problems deciding who to vote for. Now I’m wondering whether they’ll win either house of congress back, bwahaha!

  20. The longer Palin is out there shooting off her mouth, the more she shoots herself in the foot, from eye-rolling at the woman who said she was a teacher to patting Dr. Laura on the back for saying the N word a dozen times in under 5 minutes….she is locking, loading and pointing at her foot.

    Anyone who can shoot a moose and field dress it (or so she says) should know not to aim at their foot.

  21. @Moon-howler
    Not yet. No available money. Should have bought in 2003. Hindsight..and all that….

  22. By the way, if you don’t hear from me for a week or so….I’m on a sooper sekret mission…….

    to Cambod….um, St Augustine, Fl for vacation,….yeah, that’s it….Florida……on uh….Friday! Yeah….Friday……not, uh……well, for sure, Friday……..to, um, Florida….

    Shhh…..don’t tell anyone…….its a secret……

  23. Emma

    @Lafayette Mmmmm–haven’t had time to make a homemade lasagne in months. Never tried fried green tomatoes, but I’m sure they’re awesome. Does that involve a particular type of tomato, or simply unripe tomatoes?

  24. More on Booze privitization: http://blogfromonhigh.blogspot.com/2010/08/oh-darn.html

    From the Washington Post – excerpt from above link:

    Add it all up — the operating efficiencies, the increased sales, the additional tax revenue — and it’s not hard to construct a scenario in which sales increase to $740 million, the state gets its $230 million, and the retailers and distributors earn $75 million to $100 million in after-tax profits. And for the right to earn that recession-proof stream of profits, or sell the license to someone else, a well-run auction should be able to generate bids of somewhere between $400 million and $500 million — money that the governor plans to earmark for badly needed transportation projects, particularly in Northern Virginia. [

  25. Lafayette

    @Emma
    Any unripe tomatoe will do. For the first time you might want to try one that is just starting turn. They are a favorite of mine.

    BTW-I drove by the Farmer’s Market today and the NO PETS ALLOWED signs are back. I’d been three weeks in a row and kept seeing dogs shopping with their owners. I love dogs, but I don’t want to shop with them unless they are someone’s service dog.

  26. I read that, Cargo. I am not sure his logic isn’t flawed. I also don’t think increased sales is a good thing. We just lost another bunch of people–kids this time–to drunk driving. 2 dead and 1 hanging on….

    I will continue to battle the liquor store privatization.

    You have fun in St. Augustine. Do you have family there? Take a laptop. We can’t be without Cargo for a week.

  27. Lafayette, service dogs are cleaner? Dogs don’t bother me in an outdoor market if they are well-behaved and leashed. Part of the reason for the farmers market is to socialize.

    I would rather see dogs at a farmers market than at the polls like at Herndon.

  28. Lafayette

    Service dogs serve a purpose more than a family pet. Frankly, I don’t want to see them there either. Furthermore, dogs are against Va. Health Dept. Rules and Regulations. I saw one girls screaming and yanking her dog on it’s leash for 15 minutes in front of food samples. EWWW!!

    Farmer’s Market is for people to socialize not dogs. If one wants their dog to socialize, they should take their dog to a dog park.

  29. Starryflights

    Primary losses blunt Palin’s ‘mama grizzly’ claws

    By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer – Thu Aug 19, 7:12 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – It’s been a summer of setbacks for Sarah Palin. Candidate “cubs” endorsed by the Mama Grizzly in Chief have been suffering a recent string of primary election losses.

    The Republicans’ 2008 vice presidential nominee promised a pack of “mama grizzly” candidates would rise up and defeat Democrats in this November’s elections. But office-seekers she supported in Kansas, Wyoming and Washington state lost their primaries despite her high-profile endorsements. And Karen Handel lost her runoff contest for Georgia governor a day after sharing an Atlanta stage with Palin.

    Now, Alaska’s Senate primary on Tuesday is shaping up as an embarrassing defeat in her own backyard. Sen. Lisa Murkowski is expected to dispatch the challenger Palin has endorsed in the Republican contest.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_el_se/us_palin_grizzly_declawed;_ylt=AlSb8I3qxIXqJdlKFDBihgSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTN0cG05MXMyBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwODE5L3VzX3BhbGluX2dyaXp6bHlfZGVjbGF3ZWQEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDcHJpbWFyeWxvc3Nl

    Looks like Mamma Grizzly’s more teddy than grizzly, bwahaha!

  30. Starryflights

    Election 2010: Arizona Republican Primary for Senate
    Arizona Republican Primary: McCain 54%, Hayworth 34%

    Monday, July 26, 2010

    Senator John McCain has opened a 20-point lead over former Congressman J.D. Hayworth in Arizona’s Republican Senate Primary race.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/arizona/election_2010_arizona_republican_primary_for_senate

    Looks like McCain will be back.

  31. Hopefully McCain will make better choices in the future. I am convinced that his selection of Palin for the VP ticket may have cost him the election. There were many independents out there who were luke warm about Obama. Grizzlies R not US.

  32. Lafayette, some people are very much into the dog/people thing.

    Has it been a problem in the past having dogs on leashes at the farmers market or is it that it is a rule? How close can the dogs come to the market?

    I always enjoyed seeing the various dogs. I wouldn’t take mine because they don’t know how to behave on a leash. They are unruly.

  33. Lafayette

    @Moon-howler
    It’s the law. Like I said it’s the Health Department’s Code. I’ve seen dogs not on leash. Dogs can be within 15′-20′ of the market, they can’t go into the area where the vendors are.

    I like dogs and seeing them out and about, but not where there’s food.

  34. Dogs not on a leash or in a portable kennel should be picked up by the dog catcher. I don’t like dogs on the loose in an urban area.

    You mentioned dog parks. Good concept. There aren’t any public ones. The only one I know about is at Merrifield.

    That would be another inexpensive way for the county and city to improve quality of life in our area.

    Is the dog ban a state or a city code? What about some of the these outdoor bistros that allow pets? Are those in violation?

  35. Is there a copy of that health code? I have been told things are ‘health code’ my whole life. I always like to check those things out for myself. The City of Manassas has every right to ban dogs from the farmers market. Not so sure the health dept should be involved. How about all those vendor cars where pedestrians walking pets stop for a drink or a hot dog? It happens all over the place: Williamsburg, Alexandria, Virginia Beach, Manassas during festivals, etc.

    I am going to pull a Marin on the health dept. They can’t handle their own business, much less anyone else’s.

    I would ban children first. I have seen many a kid poking, biting, and handling fruit and vegetables at the farmers market, often after a good nose picking. I have never seen dogs helping themselves or picking their nose. And actually, I have never seen one kicking anything it shouldn’t (butts, nads, etc) at the farmers market. They have probably sneaked and done it right before they got there though. 🙄

  36. Big Dog

    Kudos for Cindy Brookshire!

    From the 8-20-2010 edition of the Manassas Observer:

    Mayfield Principal Jeff Abt “lauded Cindy Brookshire of Manassas, who
    brought in teens working with Week of Hope to help
    get the school ready for the new school year. Abt noted the teens
    ” did in half a day what would taken us four days to complete. They
    really lowered our stress levels.”

    Mayfield, of course, experienced an unstable roof during a massive
    snow last winter with students having to be moved to the
    Manassas Assembly of God and Manassas Baptist Church buildings to
    finish their school year.

  37. Big Dog

    FYI: The “Health Code” and inspections are a state function.

  38. @ Big Dog

    If indeed the health dept is issuing dog bans, they need to do it universally through the state to include all farmers markets and all outdoor bistro and sidewalk cafes.

    It seems that Manassas has been singled out.

  39. Lafayette

    @Moon-howler
    Moon, it’s a state code. It’s up to each jurisdiction as to if they want to enforce the law or not. I’m not sure what the bistro health code is, but that too is disgusting. I look a little for the exact code regarding Farmers Markets and post it for all to see with their own two eyes.
    Rule of law! (I just couldn’t help myself) 😉

    BTW-Perhaps, here’s something we might be able to agree on. How would you feel about a a bright red horse trailer full of tires parked on your block? I know we’ve seen trucks loaded down with tires, but a horse trailer.

  40. Big Dog

    M-H,
    From briefly checking Google, this issue has also risen recently
    at Farmers Markets in Warrenton, Herndon and Williamsburg. The state
    regs note that only “assistance dogs” are allowed at the markets, but
    I imagine it normally only becomes an issue when someone complains
    to the market master or the Virginia Health Dept..

  41. Lafayette

    @Big Dog
    I definately complained to the Market Master after seeing dogs three weeks in a row. Not to mention signs have not been posted this season. The signs were up yesterday. I’m glad HMI, Inc. has replaced the signs that went missing over the winter.

  42. Big Dog, I saw a few complaints in Williamsburg.

    What does the code say? I don’t know that I agree or disagree with it. I am just not one to blindly accept ‘health dept…..’ because I have been told that way too often in my life. I have learned to question it. So it really isn’t a matter of agreement or disagreement.

    The dogs don’t bother me at places like that if they are leashed and under control. I always used to enjoy checking out the various pooches at farmers market. The kids who are not under control do bother me and they are unsanitary. I do think if there is some code it needs to be applied even handedly. I also feel it is up to the City to say whether or not it allows dogs.

    The health dept needs to make sure all food service workers are washing their hands and leave dogs alone. If anyone runs across the reg I would like to see it. I agree with Judge whoever. It it ain’t in writing it doesn’t exist.

  43. @ lafayette,

    I will call the cops faster than greased lightning if that freaking tire truck is back. Is it that red horse trailer that lives a few blocks up? Why would anyone put tires in a horse trailer? I am already in mouring because my good neighbor is losing his house. No telling who will come in. 2 investors are fighting over it so I guess I will just put the cops on speed dial now….in preparation.

  44. Is there deafening silence over relief aid for the horrible flood damage in Pakistan?

    I have not heard one word about relief to those people.

  45. Big Dog

    According to the website of the Nelson County Farmers Market, they
    “welcome pets to the market, but not under the tents”. Humm.

    The VDH site, from my reading, doesn’t really address the issue.

    Perhaps the Manassas Market Master and or HMI has a copy of the VDH regs.
    I will check next week.

  46. Big Dog

    Just read the Herndon Farmers Market website and they claim that dogs
    are not allowed due to VDACS (Virginia Dept. of Agriculture and Consumer
    Services) rules.

    We may need some bloodhounds to sniff the facts out on this issue.

  47. Big Dog, those Jeff Abt kudos should have gone to Kisha Wilson-Sogunro, the City’s Neighborhood Services Manager, who orchestrated the Week of Hope program for an third successful year, and Dwayne Lynch, Chris Johnson and Michael Sensale. They were out in the hot sun for hours each day, for seven weeks this summer, leading work crews at all seven school work sites (inside and outside). I just happened to be picking up something for Kisha at Mayfield, talked to Jeff Abt (he’s a fellow Leadership Prince William alumni), and he or the reporter thought I was in charge (I’d earlier sent some Week of Hope photos to the Manassas Observer).

    I don’t want to see animals at the Farmers’ Market. I’ve stood outside the market with my dog on a leash while my husband shopped there. It is a health regulation, from my understanding, and I talked to both someone from HMI and the animal warden earlier this summer. Glad to see they finally got the signs back up. I’m sure folks at the PWC Fair can explain the regulations to you — they’ve got to keep the animals and food apart, too.

    I do love banjo music at the Farmers’ Market!

  48. Formerly Anonymous

    Just a brief visit to make sure everyone is aware that this weekend is the 2010 Open House for the American Wartime Museum. (aka the Tank museum) The museum doesn’t open until 2014, so these open houses are the only way to see the exhibits until then.

    The tank farm is open Saturday and Sunday and is located on Aden Rd. in Nokesville.

    http://thewartimemuseum.org/registration/2010openhouse.php

    The open house is free as is parking.

  49. Big Dog

    FYI: The big draw this summer at Savannah(Ga.) Sand Gnat baseball games is a guy who, after the game, goes to home plate, sets himself
    on fire and runs the bases with flames shooting out all over and holding
    a large American flag (assume it is flame-proof). Now ain’t that
    something? Yahoo!

  50. Too much time on his hands?

    Maybe he could get charged with a felony like the bartenders at Jimmy’s.

    I would be interested in knowing about the dog health dept rule. I really do tend to go total jerk on those kinds of pronouncements without documentation. Dogs eat at bistros all the time. Chilis no longer allows them and throws out the ‘health dept’ excuse and that really isn’t it. Why would they be singled out?

    I am more concerned over-sized dogs being at the polls and unruly children who need to be on a leash at the farmers market.

    Let me know what you discover, Big Dog and thanks for inquiring. As I said, I would think the City would have the final say.

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