103 Thoughts to “Wed. Sept. 1 Open Thread”

  1. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Well, turns out the speech wasn’t all that long. And yes, the talking heads analysis are a bit much.

  2. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    I was trying to take that last sentence in two different directions, and screwed up the grammar….nuts.

  3. I will fix it for you if you tell me what you want. I have Mr. Cyber Eraser.

    I agree with you that the talking heads were too much. It wasn’t complicated. The speech said what it said, he said nothing controversial that I could see and there was really nothing to analyze. My kind of speech.

  4. marinm

    U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska conceded defeat to Republican primary challenger Joe Miller, becoming the latest candidate to fall to a Tea Party- backed newcomer.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-01/tea-party-backed-joe-miller-beats-alaska-s-murkowski-to-senate-nomination.html

  5. Morris Davis

    Jerry Springer, Kim Kardashian, Lil’ Kim, Kate Gosslin, Pamela Anderson and now Bristol Palin … that’s right, Dancing with the Stars is coming back. I guess the regular American Hokey Mom’s little bear cub is going to take a break from her abstinence lecture tour to shake her money maker on national TV like most regular American unwed teen moms do to make a few bucks to buy Pampers and a good car seat. Let’s see, that’s $125k base pay, plus $10k per week if she makes it to weeks 3 and 4, then $20k per week in weeks 5 through 7, $30k per week for weeks 8 and 9, and $50k a week for weeks 10 and 11. Make it to the end and that’s $365k for 3-4 months in the spotlight. A college education, hard work, and integrity are grossly overrated.

  6. Wolverine

    Next thing you know Bristol Palin might be making as much as a lawyer. Let’s see now. X number of dollars for answering a phone call from a client, another nice pile of cash for writing a simple, one paragraph letter to the opposing attorney, etc., etc., etc., etc.

  7. Morris Davis

    @Wolverine

    Where do I sign up? Working for the military and for the government a pile of cash was never an option … and those who measure their success by it are using the wrong yardstick.

  8. Wolverine

    Enlighten me, Morris. Are you not now in private practice? Agree completely about that yardstick. Just had a family member go through divorce proceedings. Never saw so much cash flow out of client pockets on both sides in all my life. I was beginning to think that both kids got charged if the attorneys needed to blow their noses. As for government attorneys, I went through almost thirty years of having that kind of lawyer attached to my leg like a deer tick. Kept me out of trouble though. I have to admit that. Except for that time the Clinton administration changed the rules and tried to nail me ex post facto for something that was entirely legal and permissable at the time it was done — or so the lawyers told me it was at the time. Anyway, I kind of liked government lawyers. JAG, DOJ — not bad all in all. And, I will admit, underpaid compared to their buddies in private practice.

  9. Didn’t Tom Delay also dance? I never knew he had it in him. Bristol Palin is getting tiresome. Is there a way to make her stay home and take care of her child?

  10. Marin, my question is what will they (tea party candidates) do when they get in there and really have to accomplish something? I think they are going to see that the job isn’t quite as easy as they thought it was and that there are no easy answers. I also want to know what they are going to do when their whip starts putting pressure on them.

    Scott Brown seems to be a great tea party person. NOT. I like those down home values…when you are broke, pose nude. Easy money. He’s so damn good looking he could be forgiven for most anything. 🙄

  11. marinm

    For Brown I don’t have an issue with his photo spread and him profiting on it (himself). As to him being good lookin’, I’ll take your word for it. 🙂

    I think that’s an interesting question MH and it’s one that I’ve love to see play out. How true to the TP will these new candidates be? Will they shift to the left to help out the GOP? Will they hold on to the mantle of the right? Personally I’d love to see a candidate to the right of Cuccinilli get elected. I’d have to dig into the wallet to support that.

    It’s a good question and I’m curious myself. I have hope that they’ll stay strong but power does tend to corrupt. If they can stop a few GOP/DNC compromises for the sake of ‘passing something’ then it’ll be worth it as my personal view is that the citizenry is best served by Congressional gridlock.

  12. I don’t have an issue either, it just doesn’t make him Mr. Family Values.

    I am laughing at “Will they shift to the left to help out the GOP?” Too funny. Shifting to the left to help out the GOP slays me. To the right of Kook just seems mentally ill and contributing to your own oppression.

    He is too far right for a libertarian guy like you. That dude wants in your bedroom and your blood stream.

  13. Morris Davis

    Wolverine : Enlighten me, Morris. Are you not now in private practice?P>

    No, I’ve never been in private practice.

  14. George S. Harris

    Watched the speech but not the talking heads. It was OK, but now the proof of the pudding will be…

  15. marinm

    MH, I hear ya on the ‘moving left to help the GOP’ but I think that is a possible outcome. At the local or even at the state level (for some states) I think the GOP is at a good place in the Right but at the national level I’d say it’s too far to the left. I think the TP is less a frustration over current Administration policies and more so a backlash at the GOP establishment to ‘return to its roots’. But, as we’ve seen with our current President — it’s interesting to see the campaigner and then the office holder because they aren’t always the same thing.

    Cooch is an interesting guy. I won’t say that I agree with everything he’ll do but I think on the whole he’s on the right track. I get his newsletter, am a FB friend and would attend a local event if invited to it. He got a lot of brownie points with me on the healthcare lawsuit as I do see it as an unconstitutional infringement upon my civil rights.

    I’d love to have a beer with the guy and just listen to him talk. It’d be interesting.

    Right now I’m concerned about the federales wanting in my bedroom and my bloodstream.

  16. I think the state already might be in there.

    I am clutching my throat. You might have more fun drinking with Corey. I hear he is fun to drink with and he doesn’t really believe half of what he says and does…..unlike kook.

  17. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Were we talking about the hate-filled rhetoric of the right?

    http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrities/2010/08/31/15203446.html

  18. No one ever said ‘the right’ owned hate speech. Ever heard Alex Baldwin? He can sure go to town. It isn’t right if anyone does it.

    Fox News is over the top daily. Many of their hosts are snotty, snide and opinionated. However, it is their right to do it. Until the Left gets smart and counters them, neutralizes them, it will continue and Faux will remain a place for the perpetuation of ignorance.
    Too bad some of the other cable channels are buying in to some of this crap rather than becoming their own voice.

    They will eventually learn. Murdoch isn’t the only person with a brain, a vision, and money. He has just put his to better use manipulating the public.

  19. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    @Moon-howler
    Aww, there will be plenty more where this came from. Listen to the message left at Dick Armey’s HQ the other day. It’s a doozy! The evidence that the left is always most guilty of what they accuse others of will just pile up and pile up as the “hope and change” dream slowly dies off.

  20. The Obama Administration has submitted a Report on Human Rights to the UN Human Rights Council. The Report makes a small but specific mention of Arizona’s SB 1070 Immigration Law.

    http://news-public.com/index.php/united-states/2508-obama-un-human-rights-council-arizona-immigration-law

  21. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    @Posting as Pinko

    Yep, it’s beautiful! The report cites the Arizona law in addition to “the difficulties associated with forming unions and labor organizations” in the US. This they put in a report about human rights violations, like genocide, rapes in Africa, beheadings, stoning people to death. I don’t see any difference, do y’all?

  22. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Al gore has a groupie in the Discovery Channel building!

  23. Not even funny. Another person off the deep end. He feels he hasn’t done enough for the environment. That situation is still going on and there is one hostage. There may be others.

  24. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Doh! It’s not a tea partier!

  25. WHO isn’t a tea partier? The Discovery invader? Who said he was? And how do you know what his political affiliations are? It sounds like he just had a political epiphany. (sp?)

  26. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Starryflights has been quiet lately…maybe busy at the Discovery Channel?

  27. marinm

    I have my personal belief on who I think this guy voted for but I don’t think you’ll win any sympathy by taking hostages and posting a manifesto that includes:

    An angry manifesto posted on a website called SaveThePlanetProtest.com repeatedly refers to humans as “filth” and demands that the Discovery Channel “stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants.”

  28. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    I like his immigration ideas.

  29. “According to a story in The Gazette, which covers Montgomery County, Lee was arrested there in 2008 after throwing thousands of dollars in the air outside the building.”

    Since when is it a crime to throw money around, so long as it’s yours?

  30. Slowpoke!

    Starry might be out of town. Wolverine is back, finally.

    Marin, I think this guy is too nuts to know who he voted for. His brother in law was interviewed and indicated that he was pretty much …nutso. He told his relatives he needed money for a disease he had…fatal…theygave him money and he threw it around at a protest. I haven’t figured out if he is a leftist or a nutist. Someone is definitely off his meds.

    The human filth and vermin comments reminded me of you know where and the save the planet reminded me of left…so…maybe he is a hybrid.

  31. Elena

    Sounds like he has never been properly diagnosed and THAT is the problem, he hasn’t been on medication.

  32. George S. Harris

    @marinm
    I’m curious. Do you have health coverage? Is is privately provided or provided by your employer? Is your employer private or government (federal, state, county, city/town? If you don’t have coverage, then you are a potential leach on the public rump. If you have employer provided coverage, you may or may not be footing the whole bill for coverage. If you are a federal employee, you have excellent coverage. In any instance, if you have coverage,why is the new health care reform infringing on your constitutional righrts? And BTW, what constitutional right?

  33. Stand off over. Hostage shot. Condition unknown.

    Pinko, the money wasn’t really his. He was out of control then.

    George asks a good question. I would like to also throw in that those who work for defense contractors are getting govt money and are only 1 degree of seperation like the scabs who actually worked for the govt. (like me)

  34. Beck has a new websiteL http://www.theblaze.com

    Beck used to work for wpgc dc. Imagine that.

  35. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Moon-howler :
    Stand off over. Hostage shot. Condition unknown.

    Condition, bad day for squirrel-bait! Now, in accordance with this dude’s wishes, his carcass should be burned, and the ashes used to fertilize a tree! Everyone wins!

  36. I suppose he has a family who is sad.

  37. RingDangDoo

    @Elena

    Read his ‘manifesto’ here….

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/36763699/James-Lee-Manifesto

    … where he talks about…

    “stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants ”

    “encouraging human sterilization and infertility”

    “Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration
    pollution and the anchor baby filth”

    He got his proper ‘medication’ today, and it worked!

  38. RingDangDoo

    @Moon-howler
    > I suppose he has a family who is sad.

    Boo hoo.

  39. Ring, what did his family do to you? Did you hear his brother in law on TV?

    I think it is appropriate to feel sorry for them for their loss. You can dislike what someone does and still feel sadness because your brother had to be shot down like a dog because he was so nuts.

    Slow, was he one of your guys or one of Elena’s? I hear that anchor baby talk….hmmmm…which one gets to claim him?

  40. Morris Davis

    McCain’s Monster … I mean Saint Sarah of Wasilla: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010

  41. Very interesting article, Moe. It sure doesn’t paint a consistent picture of Saint Sarah. She sounds like a holy terror. Chicago politics have nothing on the Palins.

    That’s some temper she has. I expect she will run out of steam.

  42. Morris Davis

    Apparently I was in the right ballpark, but I got her titles wrong. In an op-ed in today’s Washington Post conservative commentator Kathleen Parker calls her “Sister Sarah” and “Mother Superior” who she says was personally sainted by Glenn Beck. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/31/AR2010083104879.html

  43. Thanks for the link. I continue to be underwhelmed.

    I keep asking people what it is about her that impresses them so. No one has answered with anything substanitive. I keep waiting. I honestly think they like her sound bytes.

  44. @RingDangDoo
    Makes GL and company look like girls scouts.

  45. marinm

    George, the fundamental question is to what extent the government can have in control of my body and my actions. If the govt, under the commerce clause, has the ability to require citizens to take actions based on commerce could they not then mandate who can be allowed to breed? Can they match up citizens based on an underlying desire to breed hardworking, taxpaying citizens? What choice is left to me if I must buy something upon penalty of being put in jail for refusing?

    It’s a huge stretch to say that by my opting out of buying health insurance that I have a material effect upon the cost of healthcare. The government tried to use the arguement that the ‘cost of crime’ was pushed up if they couldn’t maintain gun free zones around elementary schools and the SCOTUS rejected that arguement (Lopez) as well.

    The idea that I’m not in control of my body and that some federal employee can pick and choose how I am to live or die is against every notion of this nation’s founding.

    To answer your other question. I have coverage under BCBS/Maryland as an employee of an IT consulting/manufacturing company. They do contract to the federal govt and I am employed under a contract to the military. MH would say that I’m 1 step removed.

  46. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    It’s vital to your cause that you continue to focus on Sarah Palin. Keep the insults going folks, you’re doing great! Remember, it’s all about Sarah Palin.

  47. marinm

    Slow, don’t forget calling us racists. My independant friends that voted for BHO LOVE being called a racist and will demonstrate such in November.

    We’re winning the hearts and minds with all the hate being tossed over by the Left.

  48. George S. Harris

    @marinm
    The black helicopters are coming, the black helicopters are coming!!!! Obama is a non-citizen Muslim! The bike paths are there so the CIA can take over. DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! OMG–the Rusians are coming, the Russians are coming! Everybody is to get from streets!! Batten down the hatches, there’s gonna be a blow!

  49. marinm

    George, yup. Black helo’s and from our dear SCOTUS in 1927.

    “We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.”

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