See the latest squirrel. Jon Stewart reflects on the mosque near ground zero, Imam Rauf, and Preacher Jones.
Hear Imam Rauf’s words. Evaluate for yourself before the special ears of Fox News translate for you.
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Is Imam Rauf being maligned by the conservative press? Was he threatening or was he interpretting what he thinks will happen?
The earth may be beginning to turn counterclockwise. There is a slight chance I might be in agreement with Corey Stewart, who just returned home from his trip to NYC where he was on the MTV panel regarding illegal immigration. He joined Annabel Park, Eric Byler, Paul Rodriguez, John Quiones, and others in a discussion led by Times Reporter Fernanda Santos.
The panel discussion was a prelude to the premiere of 9500 Liberty, the award winning documentary directed by Byler and Parks. According to the News and Messenger, Corey was nervous about going and felt that he might be getting set up. He was afraid of MTV using footage to cast him in an unflattering light, completely out of context.
The first showing of 9500 Liberty will be Sunday, Sept. 26 at 8:00 p.m. on MTV2, MTVU and Tr3s MTV.
Stewart obviously was pleasantly surprised:
“I didn’t expect there to be much common ground,” Stewart said. “But there at the end, much to my surprise, some of the panelists and I believe most of the audience agreed that if you are here illegally and then commit a crime and pose a danger to society, you should be deported.”
What’s to not agree with? I don’t think any of us want to be rubbing elbows with criminals. That is why we here at moonhowlings.net have supported the 287(g) program as well as the physical arrest resolution. So if we are to take Corey at his word in the above statement, then yes, today the earth reverses its spin. I agree with the above quote made by Corey Stewart. I have always felt that way.
Stewart doesn’t think that the MTV experience will garner him votes from young people. I don’t agree there. Young people are all over the political spectrum. Perhaps if that panel discussion is shown and Corey illustrates that he is reaching out for common ground rather than crushing his opposition, he might pull in more votes than he thinks.
Open threads get unpinned from the the first position when they reach 100 comments (or thereabouts). Also, I have set wordpress to reset at 50 comments so a thread doesn’t get too unwieldy.
The stock market has been fun today. I took some time to buy a few more winners and to shed some more of a loser. September is often the cruelest month and I don’t just mean in 2008. Historically, September usually stinks. Perhaps it is because all the fat cats come back in from the Hamptons and decide to clean house. Or maybe the end of the govt’s fiscal year is in sight. At any rate, not many of us have found our fortunes in September.
Does anyone have anything wise and profound to say about the market(s)?
I didn’t know that Greg Letiecq sent Eric and Annabel to Mr. Fernandez and that sign. I never asked. I assumed they had just stumbled on it.
In the radio, Eric asks the people to not be judgemental of the people of Prince William. He explains his position and presents himself as a moderate. Having talked to Eric at length, many times, he isn’t too far off the mark.
See what you think. It is a totally different perspective from that which you have been led to believe.
Meanwhile, those in Manassas City who continue to blame Eric and Annabel might want to send a thank you note to Mr. L. It seems he got things going.
As we prepare for this film to go national, into millions of households, it is good to know these things.
[note: this thread is about 9500 Liberty and not about other organizations. ]
From Americans United for Separation of Church and State:
On Sept. 12, 1960, presidential candidate John F. Kennedy gave one of the most important speeches on church and state in American history. Refuting charges that his Catholic religious affiliation would interfere with his presidential duties, Kennedy outlined the proper constitutional relationship between religion and government.
A half century later, Americans are still struggling with issues of faith and politics. Some candidates trumpet their personal religous affiliations in a crass attempt to secure votes. Others attacks Islam or other minority faiths in a divisive and destructive maneuver to win elections.
The speech you just heard was given 2 months before the 1960 election day. At the time JFK spoke, no Catholic had ever been elected president. To date, he is still the only Catholic to be elected president, even though the Supreme Court is made up of three Jews and 6 Catholics. It is the first time in history that there has been no protestant on the high court.
The same abuses are going on today that Kennedy addressed, only I believe those abuses are worse. Americans are still trying to get money from the public coffers to support religious based schools. Priests and Bishops are denying politicians the sacraments because they have labeled themselves pro-choice. Houses of worship are being vandalized and at times denied permission to build because of who they are.
Some Americans continue to deny that the Founders built in some protections in our Constitution. These same folks seem to think that the establishment clause was to protect churches from government only. Some people still want to hang their own doctrine in classrooms and endoctrinate school children because they are a captive audience. The call for prayer in schools is loud and clear, even though it has been almost 50 years since Madalyn Murray O’Hair won her famous case before the Supreme Court.
There is a call for ministers to preach who the ‘good’ Christian candidates are from the pulpit and to defy IRS rulesthat forbid this type of behavior. The Air Force Academy was under the microscope for harassing cadets who weren’t evangelical and for requiring attendance at certain functions. Mikey Weinstein’s organization Military Religious Freedom Foundation. Wiccans at Fort Hood gained the right to practice their religion only to have it snatched away because of community pressure.
Some Americans were highly insulted at the reference to the ‘Guns and God’ vote by President Obama. No thought was given to what is said about him on a daily basis regarding his country of birth and his religion, of course. Many Americans very want religion to be a part of their government, just as long as it is THEIR religion and not someone else’s. Sharia Law is unacceptable but a Christian version of the same thing would be perfectly acceptable to some folks.
I am not sure Kennedy’s dream wasn’t far too illusive for the last part of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century.
Link to full text of speech (for those who want to read it for themselves)
Rachel Maddow interviews Major Micheal Almy who was dismissed from duty because of DADT laws and examines his role in the the ruling that was just handed down.
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While Judge Virginia Phillips has remarked, The logic defies description” regarding currect DADT policy, an appeal is expected in many circles. This very well might be a case of ‘be careful what you wish for.’ Regardless, this is a huge decision that has the potential for huge impact on our military.
Do you think DADT is unconstitutional? What will the outcome be? Will we revert back to a nation that prohibits gays and lesbians from legally serving in the military? Will the military now actively begin a witch hunt to weed out all gays and lesbians or will there be new legislation that allows gays and lesbians to serve?
Much has changed in a post 9-11 world, yet very little has changed. We still go about our daily lives as though little has changed. Flying is a huge pain. Getting a drivers’ license is more involved. We have codes and security measures but on the whole, not much has changed for most of us. Oh yes, we have been involved in 2 wars. But, like most modern wars, they don’t really impact your every day American.
I renew my anger and rage on 9-11. I need to not be complacent. I need to feel how I felt on 9-11-2001, just for a while. It is all too easy, because I haven’t been impacted by 9-11 on any real and personal level, to just let it drift off like those horrible national events that have gone before it….blurred by the annals of time.
Film footage is a good stimulus to bring all my rage roaring back.
We cannot let new debates, wars, and politics change the real message of 9-11. We were an innocent people just going about our daily lives when evil took over for the day; when zealtory, in a flash, wiped out the lives of over 3,000 people and left their families and friends without fathers, mothers, children, aunts, uncles, grandparents, girl friends and boyfriends. We must remain vigilant. We must restoke our rage when it starts to diminish. On 9-11-2001 we were all Americans. We seem to forget about that also.
Islamophobia-hatred or fear of Muslims or of their politics or culture
Hispanophobia-an aversion to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries or peoples.
I have heard these words on TV but thought they were just made up. Apparently not. Here they are. I always thought that phobias were fears with deep psychological roots. Apparently not. We have used the word ‘homophobia’ for years to indicate those who dislike gays. Perhaps the word implies discomfort with gays as much as it does dislike.
Now we have all of these issues confronting the American people, perhaps we need to discuss the use of these words. Are they legitimate words? Do they really convey how some people feel? Are they politically ‘loaded’ words?
Are there other words that are recently ‘invented’ to describe social conditions? Are these words insulting when used at a person or group of people?
Are these words just more specific examples of a legitimate word, ‘xenophobia,’ which seems to have been around much longer than these other words?
Xenophobia- undue fear or contempt of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips has ruled that the current military ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional. The judge has said she will issue an order to stop the practice nationwide.
According to msnbc.com:
U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips said the ban violates the First Amendment rights of gays and lesbians. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” prohibits the military from asking about the sexual orientation of service members but requires discharge of those who acknowledge being gay or are discovered engaging in homosexual activity, even in the privacy of their own homes off base.
In her ruling, Phillips said the policy doesn’t help military readiness and instead has a “direct and deleterious effect” on the armed services.
The Log Cabin Republicans, a 19,000 member group of predominantly gay Republicans sought the lawsuit in 2004. Judge Phillips will issue an injunction later on in the week. More than 13,500 members of the military have been drummed out since it was first enacted in 1994. It is unknown what will happen to those people.
President Clinton had hoped to permit gays in the military. As soon as he became president Congress fought him tooth and nail and a compromise of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was reached. Many gays felt Clinton had sold them out. The political reality was that had Clinton pushed his agenda through, he might have been faced with more restrictions like a bill that outlawed gays in the military.
A Hazleton, PA law that targeted illegal immigrants was struck down by a federal appeals court today. The law wass actually passed in 2006 but has been held up in the courts. The Hazleton, PA law also severed as a model for various laws, ordinances and resolutions around the country.
The Hazleton Law allowed for pulling the business licenses of those who hired illegal aliends. Additionally, landlords could be fined if they rented to people out of status.
The 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia ruled that the law infringed on the federal government’s exclusive power to regulate immigration. Once again the supremacy clause is the underlying cause for state and local laws to be voided.
According to the NY Times:
The appeals court in Pennsylvania found that Hazleton had clearly overstepped its bounds.
“It is of course not our job to sit in judgment of whether state and local frustration about federal immigration policy is warranted,” the judges wrote. “We are, however, required to intervene when states and localities directly undermine the federal objectives embodied in statutes enacted by Congress.”
Hazleton “has attempted to usurp authority the Constitution has placed beyond the vicissitudes of local governments,” the panel of three judges concluded unanimously.
Another appeal is planned by the city.
L’Shana Tova, translated in English……for a good year
My hope for this new year is that people will recognize, in each other, their common humanity.
For me, the 10 days are an opportunity to simply reflect upon what I would like to do better. At dinner tonight, which by the way, my 8 year old son made (it was fabulous), we shared at least one personal flaw that we would like to change within ourselves. We listened to the horn of the Shofar on the internet, gotta love Google search, said our prayers, and then for desert, had apples dipped in honey.
Why the apples and honey you may ask? They symobolize the hope for a sweet year.
Why the blowing of Shofar (rams horn)? In a nutshell, the sound of the horn brings in the New Year and gets people workin’ on redemption and the end of the new year, Yom Kippur, it is blown again, to signal the end of the 10 days of Awe.
Rosh Hashanah is one of two High Holidays in the Jewish religion, the other being Yom Kippur, which occurs 10 days after Rosh Hashanah begins. These two holidays form the High Holiday period, arguably the most significant time in the Jewish year, as it marks the chance for repentance and forgiveness in the eyes of God. During the High Holidays, Jews cleanse their soul and get the chance to start fresh with an unburdened conscience and the intention of doing better in the coming year.
To recognize the tragedy of 9-11, that class act, Mr. Family Values himself, Newt Gingrich, plans to show a film entitled America at Risk: The War With No Name.
The trailer:
It appears that this endeavor is really a war on President Obama. From Newt’s website:
Together with Dave Bossie, Kevin Knoblock and the team at Citizens United, we made this movie because we believe America IS at risk. We believe the dangers facing our country ARE real and growing.
In fact, we believe that if our enemies acquire nuclear, chemical or biological weapons from Iran or North Korea, they will attempt to kill millions of Americans and destroy entire cities.
Guest Post by Cindy Brookshire.
Cindy was one of the speakers at citizen time last night in the City of Manassas. She shares her reflections.
Disclaimer: All guest posts are the opinion of the poster and do not necessarily represent the views of moonhowlings.net administration. M-H
I was there for the full time of citizen comment. I was in the minority – only four of us spoke in defense of this shop owner: the attorney for KK Temptations, a patron of the MVC store near Kindercare on Mathis Ave, the owner of the Manassas Junction Bed & Breakfast and me, another woman-owned small business owner in the City of Manassas. I was the only one of the four who stayed for the whole 3+ hours.
And despite that, it didn’t have the feel of a pitchfork and torches event. I knew a good many people in the room – longtime residents of the City, parishioners of local churches, parents involved in their schools. There were counselors and doctors and those with careers in law enforcement. There were business owners in Old Town. There were people from my neighborhood watch, and the Chief of Police, Doug Keen.
I found many of the comments very eloquent – one elderly man spoke so beautifully about the love between a man and a woman, and he addressed the gathering more than to the council, that when Mayor Parrish had to interrupt him to tell him he was going over time, we didn’t want him to stop. Another young man got up and spoke and anyone would have been proud of him.
There is already howling over no convenient open thread. I spoil some people. 😉
“9500 LIBERTY” TO PREMIERE ON MTV NETWORKS, PRESS SCREENING TONIGHT
Award-winning film on SB 1070 precursor will reach 100 million homes starting Sept. 26
9500 LIBERTY is directed by Annabel Park and Eric Byler, founders of the Coffee Party, which holds its first national convention in Louisville, KY Sept. 24-26, the same weekend as the film’s cable premiere.
Park will speak on tonight’s panel along side Tea Party favorite Corey Stewart, a leading figure in 9500 LIBERTY. This will provide an opportunity for the two to reconcile conflicting accounts of events portrayed in the film. For instance, Stewart has publicly denied the vote on April 29, 2008 that removed the most controversial aspect of the law (a key scene in the film), and made claims about immigration and crime that contradict statistics cited in the film.
As Chairman of the Prince William County Board of County Supervisors, Stewart used “The Immigration Resolution” as the center of his reelection campaign in 2007. Implemented on March 6, 2008, Stewart’s law required police officers to question people they had “probable cause” to suspect may be in the country illegally. With Arizona’s version pending in federal court and other jurisdictions around the country considering similar measures, Prince William County remains the only jurisdiction in the United States to implement such a mandate. Stewart is now lobbying to revive the law, this time throughout Virginia.
The cable debut of 9500 LIBERTY will be on Sunday, September 26th at 8pm (ET/PT) on MTV2, mtvU (MTV’s 24-hour college network), and Tr3s: MTV, Música y Más (formerly MTV Tr3s) as part of Hispanic Heritage Month.
“The decisions our elected representatives make on immigration reform now will impact our audience for generations,” said Stephen Friedman, EVP & GM of MTV Networks. “As the national debate rages, MTV is committed to engaging America’s youth as informed and active participants – and sharing this powerful film is a great way to start that process.”
“To compete in the 21st century, America needs a new generation of leaders who have grown up thriving in the richness of diversity,” Park said. “People under 30 know intuitively where we need to go as a nation. We need to hear from them more often.”
