The long awaited grand opening of KK Temptations will happen this Saturday at noon. Friends and lovers will be admitted at 11:00, by invitation–the general public at noon.
Kim and Kristina invite everyone to their store to see what all the fuss has been about.
Hopefully, denizens of Manassas and Prince William County will put on their best manners and welcome these new shopkeepers to our community.
A new shop is always exciting and good for our economy.
I wonder if the paparazzi will have their cameras out to take pictures of the patrons as the enter and exit the new store? Remember this was a tactic suggested by some.
Will HMI have their Prez. at the ribbon cutting next week? He seems to be in every other ribbon cutting picture of businesses in old town. I hope this store is no exception.
Remember to smile pretty for the cameras, then, Lafayette. I plan to 🙂
Tee hee, Emma. With any luck they will get us both in the same shot. I’ll be practicing my best OPWP wave today. 🙂
Lafayette asks a good question.
I would consider any picture taking to be harassment. I would expect the city to take every precaution to NOT allow that to happen.
I know exactly who all has suggested doing that and they need to expect it to follow them. No one should advocate the harassment of others by photographing them. That is just dead wrong. Why should anyone suggest intimidating shoppers or trying to harm someone’s business.
If anyone has their picture taken, they should get the photographer’s name or likeness.
What plans does the city have to prevent both shoppers and the shopkeepers from harassment?
I’ve taken many pictures of people in public places. Therefore, I don’t have a problem with my picture being taken. However, I DO have a problem with the intent that these pictures of patrons would be taken in. Anyways, what’s really the point of the pictures? The establishment is legal and shopping there is legal too. I would have to ask some of the “family” people of the city this question.. What part of LEGAL, don’t you understand?Moon, get names or likeness.LOL
I will just take my own picture of these paparazzi wannabes.
I have a problem with anyone’s picture being taken without their permission. It is one thing to take a pic at the Fall Festival, of the crowd (oh there’s Lafayette), quite another to capture people going in and out of a store (there’s Lafayette buying out the store). What will become of those pictures? Why would anyone want a picture of you going in and out of KK’s? What do they plan to do with the picture?
I agree with you about what part of legal to people not understand.
I expect the city to run off anyone taking pictures of people going in and out of the store. To allow this to happen is to almost participate in intimidation, because that is the clear intent. Did I not read something about streaming on the internet?
It might be worth it to pay some one to dress up as Mr. Condom or Mrs. Buzzy and to go tickle the picture-takers. Mr. Condom poses with Mrs. __________. snicker. You have seen clowns all pile out of a car? How about Condom car? Pile out and go bum rush the photographers? Just a few ideas.
I’m not sure what the City could or should do about it. I don’t believe people walking around in a public place have an expectation of privacy.
Now, what you *do* with the picture could be problematic legally. I can not, for instance, take MH’s picture and put it on the cover of my City Council Memoir (lol) without her permission……
Should we keep the newspaper from taking a picture for the paper?
That brings up an interesting question. What if we set up cameras out in front of the ABC store to see who was going in to buy booze? How about those going in and out of the Old Town Inn?
I would say intent has everything to do with it. I would hope that it would be considered loitering if a person was there taking pictures. Bear in mind, this isn’t something the ordinary person would think of…..and you know where I got it.
I have every intention of going there and I don’t care who knows it.
I just don’t think the good towns people and their friends from the county should be able to stand outside anyone’s business and harass customers.
I have very strong reactions to bullying techniques.
And Andy, I would give you permission. You wouldn’t be doing it to harass me (I don’t think).
Never know…;)
I can see the headlines now: “Local blogger confronts photographer at KK Temptations, breaks camera over his head. Embarrassed to discover later that he was a free-lancer working for the Washington Post.”
A little bird told me that channel 9 had been interviewing people about KK’s. I flipped on a few seconds late but I did see Mr. Way’s interview. I hope he didn’t think that he was doing the City of Manassas any favors. He sounded like some old moss back from out of the 50s. 🙄
Ms. Kim thanked the people for all the publicity. She said she would have never been able to afford it. Funny, that’s what the clinic owner also said. I guess protesting is more important than giving ‘the enemy’ the free advertising.
Assuming I don’t go into the PR of Maryland to get my Faire on before it closes I think I may just visit KK.
If someone wants to take a picture of me for shopping. Fine. I’m the guy with the wife I don’t deserve with a holstered .40 Glock. Anyone on here is welcome to say hi to me — even the flaming liberals. 🙂
I have not threatened anyone with violence so perhaps it might be another local blogger in the news.
I would probably be more likely to sue for harassment and intimidation. Who to sue? Not sure. The possibilities are endless. Lawsuits like that are best shotgunned. There are certain responsibilities here. The City has a responsibility to protect consumers. They have loitering laws. The police are supposed to protect the people. If they refuse (and I don’t see why they would.) that could be problematic.
All I know is that a minority simply cannot be allowed to destroy someone’s legitimate business.
I don’t think the press has the right to photograph individuals either, unless they are part of a crowd.
However, when local politicial suggests that pictures be streamed on the internet of customers, then I have a problem with that. A big problem.
We don’t have flaming liberals, marin, and I hope you get your wife you don’t deserve a wonderful gift.
When does the Ren Fest close? Maybe you could go to KK’s first and then to ren fest.
For the record, I am probably too cheap to sue anyone. I don’t want anyone’s money.
I know some troll will turn my sue statements into something I did not intend, so lets just clear that one up right now.
Lots of trolls stop by here that contribute nothing…they see something, their eyes light up, like a magpie’s, and they go off with some shiny bauble and spin a web of lies about it. Aren’t magpies known for their gossip?
Just saw the WUSA-9 piece at 7pm. Glad to see KK’s Temptations was also welcomed as a Charter Founding Member of the Prince William Chamber (October issue, Business Link). Best of luck to the owners for a peaceful and profitable first day of business.
http://www.wusa9.com/rss/local_article.aspx?storyid=115770
Thanks Cindy.
I think Mr. Way and I live in alternate universes. Manassas is a family friendly …what did he say? The first year I lived in Manassas my roommate and I had a peeping Tom no one would do anything about. Let’s see…some highlights: the sniper, the Bobbitts…oh I forgot. All of that was PWC. But who got the BPOL tax money off of all the Bobbitt souveniers?
How about O’Meara’s? What was that I heard about the school girl look? Was I not supposed to bring that up? Manassas has all sorts of dirty little secrets.
Sorry. Manassas good. PWC bad.
The Maryland Ren Fair’s last weekend is the 23/24th of Oct.
The Celtic Festival is the same weekend down here near Kings Dominion Amusement Park. Come watch big men in skirts throw things.
Will you go to either?
@Cargo?
I have never been to a celtic festival. I have just seen pics.
Can’t make it to the Renn. Fair this year. But I will go to the Highland Games at the Celtic Festival.
Take pictures, please, Cargo. Do they have lots of vendors there?
All seems well at KK Temptations this evening. Apparently there has been quite a bit of business. No parking places when I went by, on the street or in the parking lot.
I looked in the window. I saw nothing vulgar or obscene. That should be it. Time for everyone to calm down and stop stirring up trouble. I expect KK’s will bring some vitality to old town.
As Old Town’s niches increase, so will its capacity to support increased visits that have multiple purposes. Increased niches + multiple purpose visits = more customers for everyone.
Much ado about nothing. We went and while we didn’t find what we were looking for we did get something. My wife said the place was ‘pretty’. There was a camera in operation as we left but it may have been a media camera. Either way it got a GREAT shot of my Glock (pun intended). I should’ve waved. 🙂
The owners were super nice and if your planning a bachelorette party — I’d recommend you put it on your list to visit for supplies.
Marin thanks for your opinion. Glad your Glock smiled for the camera.
I don’t like the idea of photographing customers without their permisssion. (I don’t mean surveillance cameras.) I wish you had found out who was operating the camera.
I just find things like that an invasion of privacy.
There were “Bobbitt souvenirs” in PWC?!!! Well, I’ll be!! I am beginning to wonder about you folks over there. Hmmm, now just what would a “Bobbitt souvenir” look like? Oh, no, you’ve got to be kidding!!
I think all you PWC lady shoppers should, indeed, attend the Highland Games at the Celtic Festival. You know what they always ask. What does a true Scotsman have on under his kilt?
Many of us already know.
Cindy b, I agree that Old Town needs the spice that comes with a variety of shops. The main drag (rt. 28) isn’t very child friendly. Children may ice skate, go to the farmers’ market, eat at Subway or Foster’s, and attend some art classes or participate at festivals; but the primary spenders are adults. If one of my acquaintances had his way, he’d make the City a cook’s mecca – starting with the buildings next to the police department as a cooking school with trial restaurants, a Williams Sonoma or other supply house, speciality bakeries, a cuisine-centered bookstore, farmers’ market, micro-brewery, chocolatier, etc. – a concentration that no other locality in the metro area offered. Then use a shuttle into Old Town for a variety of restaurants and shopping. KK could supply a little spice for life as well.
Does anyone have the number to the newest store in OTM? 😉
I can’t wait until the “family folks” of the city see it.
@Censored bybvbl
I love the idea of a cooking school in Manassas. Sign me up! I would love to have my own eatery. Moon can vouche for my cooking.
Yes, yes, yes, Censored!!! Although I already had my dream use for that building by the police dept — the Manassas Writers Center, patterned after the one up in Bethesda:
http://www.writer.org/ I’d have to win the lottery, first.
Link to article in the Washington Post’s Prince William edition today:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/15/AR2010101506470.html
Jennifer Buske nailed it: “Skokan said she and her daughter have been trained to fit breast cancer survivors with prosthetics at the store, something that has been overlooked because of the stigma attached to the business.”
After talking to Kim and Kristina early on I understood that this is a place of openness and healing. They said they are modeling themselves after Lotus Blooms, which was started by two nurses in the Historic District of Alexandria and is thriving there.
There are people in our community, whether because of their age or medical conditions need a place like this to go (after their doctors’ recommendation). Someone with an HIV partner or a heart condition may not be able to have what most folks would call regular relations, and need to come up with alternatives. It isn’t just about “spicing up” a sex life or bachelorette parties. The Skokans weren’t allowed to open their store and then have people see and understand what they were about before the red flag went up.
The damage is that people who need to go to this store may not go there now because of the “stigma.” When you put the “P” word out there people stop looking at the reality. All they see is the “P.” To my knowledge, not one city council member or Del. Miller has spoken to these business owners. Yet the city council spent $3000 with a Richmond attorney/lobbyist and are spending $71K more! How difficult is it to visit and talk with the owners of KK’s, MVC and Fashion Fantasy before making major decisions like this?
The City Council and Delegate Miller could have saved a lot of money and promoted good will a lot more had they checked out the situation before Miller started screaming ‘PORN SHOP’ in that rather Republican booming voice.
He turned the entire situation into a Miller pep rally. I don’t like admitting I was wrong but I was…about him. Maybe the good Christians who want to pray over something can pray for Judge Thomas Wood who has been hospitalized for a long time. He was the judge that presided over the famous Staunton case members of the City Council are talking about. (that has nothing to do with Kim and Kristina’s shop.) Just a thought…..
Cindy, keep up the good work you do trying to make the community a better place to live in.
Every day you prove that hate and hysterics are not family values.
Heh, heh, heh. Can I take it then that Mr. Moonhowler has Scottish blood? If not, it sounds like there are some darned good stories out there. Morris Davis did his undergrad work not too far from Grandfather Mountain where they hold that big Highlander shindig. Maybe he has heard something?
Never have gotten to one of those local Celtic festivals myself. Guess I don’t need to since I once went to the top of the Highlander festive pinnacle. Many years ago, at a place called Braemar. Nothing like hearing the skirl of the pipes and the beat of the drums echoing off the bonny braes and through the glens. They came from all over Scotland and from Scottish communities all over the world. And those bands, all massed together in tartans as diversified as an artist’s pallet, marched and strutted before their Royal Mistress, who, with all her family, had come down from her vacation nesting place at Balmoral to give honor to her Scottish subjects. I still have a souvenir from that day over a quarter century ago: “The Book of the Braemar Gathering.”
@Wolverine Went to the Highlander Festival in the city of Radford just a few weeks ago. The games were a blast. And most of the men looked darned good in their kilts.
Cindy,
Now I am even more glad that I have supported KK’s opening. What wonderful services they provide, wholly separate from DVD’s.
I don’t even have a problem with DVD’s, as long as they’re fully legal, done with full consent of the participants and don’t involve kids. It’s not my cup of tea, but heck, that’s far preferable than some drug that elevates blood pressure and could potentially damage the heart.
I totally agree with Emma as long as *I* don’t have to look at them.
Wolverine, yes, he is part Scots. Also part English on the one side.
On his mother’s side he is off the boat Irish(m) and German(f). His grandfather died in the flu epidemic. The widow raised 4 daughters and somehow they all managed to put the youngest(his mother) through Smith College. Sort of an amazing story. He is so Irish he is eligible for citizenship.
According to my mom’s ancestry book, my dad descended from three hardheaded Irish brothers (by way of Scotland) who each took a different name when they emigrated to Donegal Parish near Harrisburg, PA: James Galbraith, John Gilbreath and Andrew Gailbreath.
But the only men in skirts I’ve seen are the ones at Glen Echo Park on square dance nights. Lordy, makes a woman’s head spin!
Well, heck, the Scots were actually Irish before they moved east across the Irish Sea and became Scots. Myself, not a drop of Scottish blood. But Mrs. W has a part of her family which descends from a chap in the ancient nobility who was 13th in line to the throne of the Lord of the Isles. Records show that he died in a battle somewhere up there. The family castle still stands on a hill in Scotland. Eventually most of the family became Jacobites and crossed swords with the English in circa 1715. Cost them their homeland. They were exiled to Virginia, where many of their direct descendants joined with a chap named Washington in a revolution. One of them was in the British navy and jumped ship in Boston. He was actually a participant in the original Tea Party.
And those are the types of experiences where one might expect to have the cameras turned on them….while at a Celtic festival. However, not so much going in to KK’s.
I am not sure how loitering laws would kick in in the downtown area. Hopefully everyone sees that the store is harmless and that their children are safe and the focus will be on other things.
Who are the main council men/woman who are still beating the drum over this shop?
I understand some are still trying to close it down. Does anyone have the scoop on this?
I just visited KKs and you know what??? It was lovely! Kim and Kristina have a lot to be proud of, IMHO. Very tasteful, very warm and friendly. I’m a resident of OTM, and now that I have been there, I’m REALLY left scratching my head wondering what the hell these people are so upset about? I never had a problem with the store, but now the “drumbeaters” look ridiculous. The only thing I’m upset about is that they don’t have a bigger space for more lingerie, novelties, whatever! I think they’ll find themselves the proud purveyors of a niche market. My only hope is that the City council doesn’t screw it up with their new zoning rules. That would be a travesty.
I just visited KKs and you know what??? It was lovely! Kim and Kristina have a lot to be proud of, IMHO. Very tasteful, very warm and friendly. I’m a resident of OTM, and now that I have been there, I’m REALLY left scratching my head wondering what the hell these people are so upset about? I never had a problem with the store, but now the “drumbeaters” look ridiculous. The only thing I’m upset about is that they don’t have a bigger space for more lingerie, novelties, whatever! I think they’ll find themselves the proud purveyors of a niche market. My only hope is that the City council doesn’t screw it up with their new zoning rules. That would be a travesty.
Welcome Christina! Glad you are here and hope you will come back often. Sorry it took me so long to release your comment from moderation. I thought I had. That only happens the first time.