Responding to Limbaugh’s criticism of Fox, Krauthammer retored, “As one of the three slobberers… I find it interesting that only the ruling class wants a president who is smart articulate and oratorical in delivering a funeral oration… It’s an odd and rather condescending view of what the rest of America is looking for in their president.
It looks like the Fox News Panel trots one out of the ball park for a change. Good for Krauthammer! Good self deprecating humor!
(Thanks to Juturna for bringing this gem to my attention.)
Heard it on the Mike Savage show today…. The elitists are evolving and coming back out of the closet. I might not agree with everything Krauthammer has to say, how he forms an opinion and articulates it is something good to watch. It is possible to disagree without becoming disagreeable…..
I certainly don’t agree with Krauthammer on a lot but he is articulate and tells you why he feels as he does, rather than blathering and ‘slobbering’ out a bunch of sound bites like so many of his colleagues do.
Great find Juturna! I also don’t often agree with Krauthammer, but I have not found him to be a bully or to denegrate the other side.
Remember, Rush is only right about 98.2% of the time. Just ask him…. 🙂 He misspoke there…. it happens.
As for the applause….Gibbs was lying. The jumbotron was ASKING for applause.
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/if-white-house-was-surprised-at-applause-at-tucson-pep-rally-why-did-they-ask-for-it-on-jumbotron/
It was a pep rally. A lot of people seemed to like it. They shouldn’t be embarrassed. They got what they wanted.
@Cargo
1. Who planned the event at the University of AZ?
2. That applause thing is the closed caption. Geez. I have that on my TV too.
3. Was Gibbs even there at the Memorial Service?
4. Do you honestly think that is an unbiased report of the event? I do not and therefore I dismiss it.
5. Did you check out the VA Tech Memorial Service?
6. Would the far right been less critical if the president by passed the entire service?
1) Apparently the U of AZ with coordination with the President.
2) If its closed caption, why did the photographer take down the photos when that was noticed and remarked upon? If it was just the “captioning,” they can say so.
3) Gibb’s is supposed to be informed. That’s his job.
4) Why do you dismiss reports of any sort? Do you actually think that there is an unbiased report of anything dealing with politics? Ever? The report wasn’t the reason I linked. I wanted to just show the picture. I’ve also read other reports of it.
To me, from what I’ve seen, the speech was very nice. Whoever planned it, planned it like a rally. Rallies and funeral memorials don’t mix, in my opinion, but hey! What ever works for them. I do think that the political handlers used it to their advantage to rally the troops. The governor was booed. Certain other speakers put a lot of politics into their speeches, the type of which we’ve already discussed.
If it had been a solemn occasion, as I feel it should have been, it would have been better.
1. No president goes anywhere without coordination with the site. It is not only a matter of manners but also security.
2. I have no idea. And who really cares if there was an applause sign. Anyway, it looked like all the closed captioning I have ever seen. I would be very surprised if they didn’t have it, especially on a university campus.
3. He was informed. You just called him a liar. I objected.
4. Striking through the word ‘memorial’ and inserting pep rally is just slanting a story. Why would I read something that hits me over the head with a baseball bat saying : I want to give you MY side of the story. I simply don’t. If I want bias I listen to Faux News and just tell myself that its probably worse a lot of other places. I really want things unfiltered. I figure I am of at least average intelligence and can figure most stuff like that out for myself. I have bunches of papers I cross check and head for the middle ground. It serves me well most of the time.
Apparently you still haven’t watched the VA Tech Memorial Service. I see very little difference in the tone and timbre of either memorial. It isn’t up for us to decide. It might not have been MY cup of tea but it wasn’t for me. I have every confidence that U of AZ arranged the service. It had that University touch. Watch the Tech one. This one will sit better.
As for booing the governor. This was a college campus. I expect the president was probably booed also by someone. It was a very mixed crowd. As we discussed earlier in the day, not everyone believes in good manners. It isn’t illegal to be rude, I am sorry to say.
thank you media matters, for once again enlightening us. sam neill playing the antichrist in omen III was also smart, articulate, and oratorical. while the ruling class of blathering idiots like david brooks and all the other talking heads on tv do indeed frolic in the superficial appearance of these qualities, the american public in general is more interested in results, the bottom line, and what are the president and his policies actually doing to improve our economy and country in general. and viewed in that light, obama is a most dismal failure, and frankly, his speeches are quite vapid as well; historians will be hard pressed to find the eloquence of a jfk or reagan, or anything really memorable, in any of them. this is what irritates all the pundits: the ability of limbaugh to stand up athwart the grain of the drive-by media conventional wisdom, and boldly proclaim: “the emperor has no clothes!”
although you protest, deep down in your hearts you know the truth
@ e: Just curious here but what was/is your opinion of George Bush the junior?
gwb was quite liberal when it came to illegal immigration, and he also inexplicably paved the way for obama’s socialism with his approval of tarp (had to abandon free market priciples to save the free market, or words to that effect). but he did lower taxes and gave the jihadis a black eye they weren’t expecting. although in hindsight going into iraq was a bad idea. but as a person he seems nice enough, could probably cook up a good barbecue and drink a beer with (if he drank)
@ e: Was he a dismal failure? Were his speeches quite vapid? Did he have no clothes?
not to mention out of control spending and creation of new entitlement program. and obviously in the oratorical arena, how to put it delicately, limited. not every leader is blessed with the rhetoric of cicero. but this adulation of obama with his god echo reverb chamber pumped into the audio is cloying and nauseating. don’t try to feed me turds and tell me it’s boston cream pie. no one ever heralded bush as the messiah or the one we’ve been waiting for, bush was who he was, for better or worse, no pretensions. in fact, his modesty, or class if you will, in refusing to respond vigorously to his critics, was a detriment to his presidency and the republican party
People who deal with finance on a national and global level have said time and time again that the TARP that came in under GWB HAD to happen. We have several threads on here addressing that issue.
(forgive me, self…I never thought I would be doing this) In defense of George Bush, he had the people in place to make the right decisions that needed to be made. Capitalism doesn’t really exist in a pure state. Sometimes it needs tweaking.
it’s very difficult to disprove a negative. i can say that if i had not gotten up this morning, a butterfly would have alighted on my windowsill, and through a cascading domino effect would have resulted three months later in a typhoon in taiwan. ditto three million jobs “saved” or created, ditto tarp, how convenient a strategy, if we had not done this or that, armageddon would have resulted
@e
A bad idea? You know, calling the invasion of Iraq a ‘bad idea’ shows a cavalier attitude not only about human life, American life, sovereignty of another country and all sorts of other things.
We have lost over 4,200 Americans in Iraq and over 30,000 have been wounded. Many of these wounds are life altering and life transfiguring. They will never lead normal lives.
Bad idea my ASS! It is an outrage. Furthermore, we invaded a sovereign nation.
ok, an outrage! and if i would’ve defended the iraq war, you would’ve gotten mad at me too and call me a kneejerk conservative! what am i supposed to say, it was a bad idea! but guess what, your democrats in congress approved it too! so get mad at them as well! and why are we still there if it’s such an outrage? get them the hell out now instead of piling on what limbaugh did or did not say or do. and guess what: tojo japan and nazi germany were sovereign nations too! so it’s not exactly unprecedented in the annals of our country’s esteemed history
@e,
Actually, no I wouldn’t have. I have mixed feelings about Iraq and always have. I don’t think that we should have gone in there. But, we did. So we do it right.
Americans never had the stomach for that war, I don’t think.
e, we didn’t invade Nazi German or Japan without provocation. We had a declared war. They can hardly say we snuck up on them.
yes, hitler was a dumbass and declared war on america after pearl harbor, but germany never attacked us. but taking down the nazis was the right thing to do. similiarly, for whatever reason every intel service in the world was of the opinion that saddam was developing wmd’s and was a growing menace, and refused to abide by the un resolutions and was taking potshots at coalition planes monitoring the no fly zones. in hindsight we know he was more bark than bite, and bush sr’s strategy of leaving him in power to counterweigh the madmen mullahs in iran was a good idea
@e
How about all those sunken merchant marine ships? That was going on before war was declared.
No point in second guessing the Iraq war at this point. It is like crying over spilt milk.
Germany? Japan? How about Kosovo? Why did we get involved there? Iraq was part of an all but declared war. The only reason that a declaration was not sought is that Congress thought, after WWII, that attaching all sorts of things to a Declaration was efficient, like automatic price controls….etc.
Personally, if I was Obama, upon taking office, I would have asked for a re-authorization. And if we don’t have a goal of winning in Afghanistan, get out now. NO waiting. I won’t go into all the opinions on Iraq, that was covered in this blog long ago.