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Emma, you need to check out Allman’s, but they aren’t open Sunday’s. They used to be closed on Monday’s too years ago. Whenever we’d travel to Spotsylvania for work we had to go on they were open. The people in our office would’ve hung us if we didn’t bring back some for everyone. My nephew lives down there asked me if I knew of the place. I said yes, and you MUST go there. He went and loved it.
I wish I knew about that place when my second kid was at UMW! Will have to check it out.@Lafayette
@Emma,
You wouldn’t have gone in it without someone telling you it was ok. I spent all 4 years at MWC and never went in until my husband (not a student) took me in as a senior. Never paid it a bit of attention. This was in the dark ages it it was a run down hole in the wall back then.
I might have to take a road trip down 17 real soon. I should have never started thinking about it.
@Moon-howler
Where I grew up, we didn’t have a huge BBQ culture. During the summer, backyard get togethers were held around tables of crawfish.
The best BBQ that I’ve ever eaten? Hawaiian. Hands down.
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk….all this talk of tomato based BBQ is making this East Virgninny & Eastern North Cackalaky boy shake his head!!!
all that red sauce junk makes me think its Texas…LOL!
Amazing things you find on the internet and the roundabout ways they come to your attention. I found this at a blog coming out of SW Lousiana:
This is the type of obituary I want.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/timesdispatch/obituary.aspx?n=frederic-arthur-clark-fred&pid=18382676
Frederic Arthur (Fred) Clark
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Frederic Arthur (Fred) Clark, who had tired of reading obituaries noting other’s courageous battles with this or that disease, wanted it known that he lost his battle as a result of an automobile accident on June 18, 2006. True to Fred’s personal style, his final hours were spent joking with medical personnel while he whimpered, cussed, begged for narcotics and bargained with God to look over his wife and kids. He loved his family. His heart beat faster when his wife of 37 years Alice Rennie Clark entered the room and saddened a little when she left. His legacy was the good works performed by his sons, Frederic Arthur Clark III and Andrew Douglas Clark MD, PhD., along with Andy’s wife, Sara Morgan Clark. Fred’s back straightened and chest puffed out when he heard the Star Spangled Banner and his eyes teared when he heard Amazing Grace. He wouldn’t abide self important tight *censored*. Always an interested observer of politics, particularly what the process does to its participants, he was amused by politician’s outrage when we lie to them and amazed at what the voters would tolerate. His final wishes were “throw the bums out and don’t elect lawyers” (though it seems to make little difference). During his life he excelled at mediocrity. He loved to hear and tell jokes, especially short ones due to his limited attention span. He had a life long love affair with bacon, butter, cigars and bourbon. You always knew what Fred was thinking much to the dismay of his friend and family. His sons said of Fred, “he was often wrong, but never in doubt”. When his family was asked what they remembered about Fred, they fondly recalled how Fred never peed in the shower – on purpose. He died at MCV Hospital and sadly was deprived of his final wish which was to be run over by a beer truck on the way to the liquor store to buy booze for a double date to include his wife, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter to crash an ACLU cocktail party. In lieu of flowers, Fred asks that you make a sizable purchase at your local ABC store or Virginia winery (please, nothing French – the *censored*) and get rip roaring drunk at home with someone you love or hope to make love to. Word of caution though, don’t go out in public to drink because of the alcohol related laws our elected officials have passed due to their inexplicable terror at the sight of a MADD lobbyist and overwhelming compulsion to meddle in our lives. No funeral or service is planned. However, a party will be held to celebrate Fred’s life. It will be held in Midlothian, Va. Email [email protected] for more information. Fred’s ashes will be fired from his favorite cannon at a private party on the Great Wicomico River where he had a home for 25 years. Additionally, all of Fred’s friend (sic) will be asked to gather in a phone booth, to be designated in the future, to have a drink and wonder, “Fred who?”
Published in Richmond Times-Dispatch on July 9, 2006
Trial of immigration activist accused in killings spotlights tense climate along border
By Krissah Thompson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 5, 2011; 9:49 PM
After Arizona rancher Robert Krentz was killed on his land last year by a man police believe was an illegal immigrant, television networks and more than 300 newspapers wrote about his death as an example of the dangers on the border.
Two months after Krentz was killed, 9-year-old Brisenia Flores and her father, Raul, were shot to death in their home, 150 miles from Krentz’s ranch. Their attackers were allegedly affiliated with an militia group opposed to illegal immigration that was conducting raids to steal money.
The Flores case is now being tried in Tucson, and immigrant rights activists contend that it deserves more attention. The reason why: The raid was allegedly organized by Shawna Forde, 43, head of a fringe border patrol group called Minutemen American Defense.
Forde’s murder trial, which has been marked by vivid testimony over the past two weeks, has become a cause celebre among proponents of overhauling U.S. immigration law, who cite the killings as an example of the risks of extremism in the immigration debate.
“There has been the prospect of people taking the law into their own hands for some time,” said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, which advocates a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. “The rhetoric, the hate mail. It’s unbelievable.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/05/AR2011020504164.html?hpid=topnews
Shooting a nine-year-old girl just because somebody thought she was an illegal alien is sickening, cowardly, barbaric and repulsive. Civilized peoples must condemn this pathetic act in the strongest possible terms.
We also need to tone down the heated rhetoric in our immigration debate.
Cargo, I almost feel like I know old Fred. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks STarry, for bringing this story to our attention. I have heard of this Shawna Forde. The website to free her is certainly charged with the usual rhetoric and I see she has called on the ACLU.
I don’t know if she is guilty or not but….vigilantism is never a good thing.
“We also need to tone down the heated rhetoric in our immigration debate.
No, we don’t. We should be yelling and screaming at our elected representatives for refusing to enforce existing laws. A little nine-year-old girl might still be alive if those representatives worried less about losing votes and more about upholding the law and securing the border.
@Emma, which laws do you feel aren’t being enforced and it is ok to use terms like vermin etc to speak of those people we believe to be in the country without proper documentation?
The secure our border rhetoric is just meaningless to me. Of course we want our borders secure but I remember the Berlin Wall and how many people and their offspring are living in this country now because they somehow escaped out of East Germany. No border can be totally secure. Where there is a will there is a way.
I see Sheriff Dupnik was involved in that one.
I expect he wouldn’t think alot of vigilantee killings.
Tomorrow, members of the House of Delegates will vote on HB 2147, an egregious abortion ban aimed to deny women full reproductive coverage in the State Health Benefits Exchange. This unnecessary legislation not only endangers women’s health but also takes away coverage most women currently have (87% of private health insurance plans cover abortion).
Ask your legislator to vote NO on HB 2147.
From Planned Parenthood
Well the Minutemen are distancing themselves rapidly from this woman as they should.
As I said when the Tucson shooting, he and his low paid public servants have been up to their necks in this stuff. We’re talking carnage here not just nasty…he’s probably had enough of 9 year olds killed in his jurisdiction.
The federal government has not done their job and has made local public servants pay for it. Illegal workers are good for business. What’s good for business wins.
@Moon-howler No, it’s not ok to describe any human being as vermin. But it’s also not ok for the federal government to fail in its duties and then threaten entire states with lawsuits when the influx of illegal immigrants becomes untenable and jurisdictions try to take action. Failure to enforce the law invites vigilantism; lawlessness breeds lawlessness.
…..and costs the taxpayer money.
Student at Ohio’s Youngstown State University killed, 11 others wounded in off-campus shooting, officials say.
That does not justify shooting a 9-year-old girl. Para-militaries taking the law into their own hands always ends very badly. This is the sort of story one might expect to read about warring tribes in Sudan or Rwanda, not the United States.
FYI:
Manassas City Town Hall meeting tomorrow night at Dean Elem School 7pm.
Primary focus is on the Dean area, but everyone is invited.
Agenda is on the city website.
Sarah Palin and Bristol Palin have applied to trademark their names, a step the Christian Science Monitor notes is “a legal action more typical of celebrity figures in sports, fashion, and entertainment.” The article says 20 year old high school grad and unwed single mom Bristol has “formed her own public relations and political consulting firm.” I suppose if sheepeople are willing to pay big bucks for her to regale them with her knowledge on “life choices” – giving speeches and appearing on panels regarding teen abstinence,” then there’s probably a market for her expert views on the American political process.
Speaking of expertise, Sarah recently demonstrated some of her foreign policy chops. Again, quoting from the Christian Science Monitor:
“Palin told the Christian Broadcasting Network over the weekend regarding how the Obama administration has handled Egypt’s political upheaval: ‘Nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and I’m not real enthused about what it is that that’s being done on a national level and from DC in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt.’ Explaining further, she said: ‘And in these areas that are so volatile right now because obviously it’s not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House.’ Surely that’s a depth of analysis worth trademarking.”
Cha-ching.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0206/Sarah-Palin-Inc.-Can-she-trademark-her-name
@Starryflights You are putting words in my mouth. It’s easier to debate when you stick to what is actually being said. Weren’t you one of the first early on to say that Jared Loughner was motivated by the tone of political speech? But you don’t think people could act out inappropriately when they feel harmed by the fact that their government selectively enforces its laws? That’s not the same as justifying the killing of a 9-year- old, and you know it.
@Moe, I heard their copyright was rejected because neither Sarah or Bristol remembered to sign the application. They will be allowed to apply again.
You are blaming the victim, a nine-year-old girl, in this case. “They came here illegally–but the law isn’t hard enough on them–so we’re gonna rob them to raise money to deal with them on our own terms–which means it’s their own fault if they get hurt.”
Well, I think that attitude is sick, cowardly and disgusting. Not only that, but that attitude will turn this country very quickly into a state like Rwanda where everyone believes violence is justified.
@Emma, it would be easier for me to buy in to ‘enforce the laws’ if we had specifics. What is it exactly we want the federal government to do.
What are they NOT doing?
What do we want them TO do?
@Starryflights No, Starry, your attitude is what’s sick, cowardly and disgusting. You would rather be complicit in denying that there is even a problem on the border, and letting more 9-year-olds die at the hands of vigilantes. And where exactly did you get that quote?
Nobody can butcher a sentence quite like $arah.
@Cato the Elder OMG, did she say “corpse-man” again?
Okay, I’m ticked about this. Who thinks the Feds are doing anything except telling everyone they’re in charge of immigration? Name three things the Feds ARE doing.
1) Catch and release
2) Eric Holder stomps on State’s rights
3) Hold press conferences to remind us THEY’RE in charge of Immigration.
Name three more.
@Juturna
Putting at least 6,000 border agents on the southern border.
Building structures to provide a barrier.
@Emma
Ha Ha I had forgotten about that.. 🙂
Cato – Maybe that will persuade her to limit interviews to the safely scripted Fox News and avoid those tough “gotcha” questions liberal lamestream media like the Christian Broadcasting Network pull out of left field to try and make her appear airheaded.
Did anyone but Ron Reagan Jr. attend the ceremonies at Simi Valley, CA? I didn’t see Patty or Michael–just Nancy who spoke briefly and Ron who was beaming with pride while his mother spoke.
Corpse-man…OMG. I had forgotten too.
When did the Reagans sell that ranch? I guess the kids didn’t want it?
Well, MH it’s not working and that was only two. Besides, border agents make a whopping $32k a year. Guess that’s okay for public servants. Real people have standards and need to make more. 🙂
“Name three things the Feds ARE doing.”
Here’s one: Inciting vigilantism through their own inaction, so that they can continue to pretend to hang their electoral hats on “incivility” that leads to “extremism.”
Well, that’s a little creative! But politicizing crime is what we have allowed this country has come to in order to achieve the ‘gotcha’. I don’t recall “gotcha’ in the Constitution.
Go away ‘gotcha’. Who cares as long as there is real outcome.
third thing–sorry I got side tracked. They are working the ss#s and cyberly looking at companies for violations.
No one has told me what they are not doing and what you want them to do.
What are the feds doing? I don’t know…perhaps steamlining the services for deportation at the Farmville facility. Expanding the dormitory capacity at Farmville since arrests are up. The feds are also keeping up with reimbursing various localities under 287g in VA, and removing eligible members of the illegal population in a timely manner to the civil detention facility where they are eligible for expedited deportation. The feds have been very, very busy here in VA.
Yea, no room for gotcha. I just go nuts when I hear slogans and FAIR-generated sound bytes.
What is it that we want the feds to do they aren’t doing?
Additionally, are we willing to pay border agents a decent salary and hire more ice agents and federal judges to process deportations? Are we willing to make a huge investment in border states so that they can put their national guards on the border? Are we willing to allow them to do this? (I believe if you are a certain number of miles from the border, a deportation trial doesn’t have to take place…you just do it)
On the other hand, the people I hear complaining the loudest about immigration are those that are also screaming cut spending. The money isn’t endless.
I heard the same crap put of the anti-immigration crowd in PWC. [big blow hard voice] Increase my taxes…I am willing to pay whatever it costs…blah blah blah.
Then those were the first SOBs out there saying cut my taxes. Meanwhile county emplyees will be facing 3 years of no raise and doing the work of 2 people. The school system is horribly overcrowded and needed 100 new teachers. The cheap -ass BOCS refused to even approve stimulus money to hire them. This is the same bunch who gives away rural crescent property to the developers. So they build 400 new houses. Did it ever occur to anyone that those 400 new houses will all have kids who need to go to school living in them? How about the non-roads? Libraries?
This entire subject makes me sick.
You want to do something about illegal immigration some of you folks had better be ready to pay the piper. There are something like 40 ICE agents in Virginia. Who will pay for the number needed?
Yes, thank you. I feel better. I just didn’t use enough profanity.
okay MH – I found this. This is my kind of thinking. I still think there’s a problem at the Az/Ca border- While audits may replace gatekeeping, some gatekeeping is needed. People are dying.
And, I still stand by States rights to enact or reject legislation. Remember NCLB.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703951704576092381196958362.html
Ugh, hated that flubbed caterwauling that was supposed to be the Star Spangled Banner. At least get the words right!
it requires more talent to sing it the way it was written.
Well, Moon, let me opine that the Feds do not seem to be doing very well with regard to the border or the investigative mechanisms for keeping tabs on illegal immgration. Here in Loudoun we are currently in somewhat of a brouhaha over an illegal immigrant who raped an eight-year-old girl in Centerville a couple of weeks ago. He was in our local slammer on a drunk in public charge not long ago and prior to the rape. The request forwarded at that time by our sheriff’s office to the Federal database to verify legal status came back “No match.” Well, it turns out the guy was actually deported in 2003. The federal electronic database apparently had not been updated to include deportations prior to 2005. Now our sheriff is being lambasted in a political year for not having followed what looks to be a state-mandated requirement to follow up “No match” answers with a request for a manual check of the Federal files — in other words, not asking the Feds to do the job they should be doing in the first place since it is their own database which is at fault. Frank Wolf is asking for an investigation of this failure at the Federal level. Good on him. As someone who once ran a Federal trace response mechanism responding to queries on terrorist suspects from four continents in the transition era between computers and paper files, I had a gap as well (much, much larger), and I would never have dreamed of leaving it to the requester to come back a second time and ask me to do the job I should have done in the first place.
To top that off, our sheriff’s office gang unit has just busted up a major document forgery ring in Sterling and arested a number of Salvadorans involved in that operation. Turns out that two of them were also deported previously. My, my, my, when you have a leaky border, you have a leaky border.
With results like that, the Feds get no pass from me. Well, I will hold back just a little bit to see whether the recent raids on employers like Chipotle are genuine or just another paper tiger effort to make it look like the “system” is serious. There is a lot at stake here, including the future of things like the Dream Act. I’m willing to go to the dance, but the Feds had better realize that, per the old adage, it takes two to tango.
The Black Eyed Peas sounded terrible. Not good.
And why do we think Chipotle needs raiding? Are they more at risk than other companies because they are a ‘Mexican Grille?’ The fact that it is a successful American company probably has nothing to do with it.
You have said what you want them to do. Update their records. That is fair. However, it is going to take a lot more money dumped into the entire immigration force than we are putting now. How does that play out with ‘stop spending?’
Illegal immigration has a huge headstart. I don’t even know that doubling resources would even help. Would 80 ICE agents help rather than 40?
I hope people committing crime like forgeries aren’t just being sent home through deportation. I would hope they would be sent to prison for a long time. That too, costs money. I am all about getting criminals off the streets.
Twinad, I agree. And I missed the Star Spangled Banner. Who sang it?
No more touchdowns for Rapist Roethlisberger, please. At least Michael Vick paid his legal price. Why do these guys still get to be heroes? Big Ben, indeed.
Michael Vick got to be one by turning his life around. In addition to torturing dogs, he was a horrible sport when at Tech. Remember that video of him stomping someone?
As long as he lives a sterling life, I will not hate him.
I thought Chipotle was owned by the same corp as McDonalds.
Roethlisberger got his goons to delay police while he was allegedly raping a woman in a bar bathroom. Then he bought the victim’s silence. No legal repercussion, nothing but a 6-game suspension. And it wasn’t the first time he’s been accused of rape.
Maybe he will get gored in the nads during a game…and that might be the end of his rape career.