Its that sacred time of year–that high holy day of football–Super Bowl XLV!

Who will rule?  The Green Bay Packers or the Pittsburg Steelers?

Will you watch for the football or the commercials?

168 Thoughts to “Open Thread………Super Bowl XLV Weekend…….February 4”

  1. McDonalds owned a majority interest. They divested about 5 years ago. The company went public about 2006. In 2010 they had a problem in Minnesota with employees with fraudulent documents. They fired those people and were the subject of protests. Oh and McDonalds is owned by McDonalds.

    Here are the highs and lows.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipotle_Mexican_Grill

  2. marinm

    Chipotle’s is YUM. The game has gotten good. 😉

  3. Hmmm, only 40 ICE agents….

    Know what would help? Allowing the local LEO to enforce immigration law, like AZ wanted to do. Then you have all sorts of help. And all without having to increase spending.

  4. @cargo, then who is going to do the work that law enforcement is supposed to be doing?

    I don’t know about Richmond, but we need more LEOs, not less. If someone is off doing the job the feds should be doing, then they aren’t doing what the local tax payers are paying for.

  5. Emma, lafayette, Juturna, did you all watch Big Love? I recorded.

    Watched the Super Bowl and my favorite jewelry designer on the computer. Recorded Big Love.

  6. Cato the Elder

    @marinm

    Try Qdoba. I love Chipolte, but Qdoba has hot queso, and after 4PM on Tuesday it’s 2 for 1 at the Liberia location. The drawback is that the “hot” sauce isn’t close to the hot sauce at Chipolte. I don’t know about you, but when I eat a burrito I want to sweat at the very least, and if the lips get numb so much the better. However, Cato is cheap and always looking for a deal so the buy one get one free gets me going.

  7. @Cato, go stock up on the hot sauce from Chipotle. Then take it to Qdoba. Don’t shout and wave it about. You must have a stomach of steel.

  8. @Moon-howler
    They are doing the job that they ARE supposed to be doing. Remember, immigration checks would only be on those BREAKING THE LAW.

  9. Then if they are breaking the law, local LEOs are already arresting them.

    What is this about? That’s what 287G does. Checks immigration status.

  10. Emma,

    The post has that horrible rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. It was shrieking. You are right. Inexcusable botch job.

  11. And on another note:

    NEW YORK — Online company AOL Inc. says it is buying highly trafficked news website Huffington Post for $315 million in a deal that will put co-founder Ariana Huffington in charge of all AOL content.

    Founded in 2005, Huffington Post now claims 25 million unique visitors a day. It is owned by Ariana Huffington, Kenneth Lerer and a group of other investors.

  12. Starryflights

    Posted at 10:05 AM ET, 02/ 6/2011
    Palin event canceled due to ‘an onslaught of personal attacks’
    By Emi Kolawole
    Former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin was scheduled to speak at an event for a Colorado nonprofit group May 2, but the event was canceled the day after it was announced due to “an onslaught of personal attacks” against Palin.

    Palin was to speak at the Patriots & Warriors Gala at the Infinity Park Event Center in Glendale, Colo., which was billed as an awards banquet and fundraiser for military families in need and for a grief camp for children who had lost loved ones in combat.

    But the event, sponsored by the Sharon K. Pacheco Foundation, was canceled Saturday, a day after it had been announced to the media. A press release posted on the sponsoring organization’s Facebook page reads, “Due to an onslaught of personal attacks against Gov. Palin and others associated with her appearance, it is with deep sadness and disappointment that, in the best interest of all, we cancel the event for safety concerns.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/02/palin-event-cancelled-due-to-a.html

  13. Starryflights

    Palin blasts Obama administration’s handling of Egypt unrest

    The Associated Press
    Sunday, February 6, 2011; 2:50 AM

    WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin says the Obama administration must tell Americans what it knows about who will be Egypt’s next leader.

    In a Christian Broadcasting Network interview released Saturday, the 2008 vice presidential candidate says the administration should level with the American people on what it knows about the Egyptian crisis.

    Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak wants to rule until September elections.

    Palin said the U.S. must find out who is “behind all the turmoil” and that “we should not stand” for a government led by the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Referencing a 2008 campaign ad, Palin said Egypt was the White House’s “3 a.m. phone call” but it “went right to the answering machine.”

    She says the U.S. must say whom it stands with, “and we do not have all that information yet.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/05/AR2011020503745.html

    Can somebody explain what the hell she’s talking about? To think she wants to be President!

  14. Wolverine

    Is there an echo in this room? Seems to me I’ve heard #117 before — somewhere around here.

  15. Emma

    @Moon-howler Nope, missed Big Love last night but it’s recorded.

  16. Rick Bentley

    I’ve been watching Big Love too. Last week was pretty good stuff.

    I’ve got a feeling they’re all going to be one big happy family at the end, which rings false to me.

  17. #117

    I think it bears repeating. What is she talking about? Why would she be sitting on the sidelines criticizing very delicate diplomacy? Every time she opens her mouth she shows that she is simply not presidential material.

  18. @Rick, did you get my message about Wall St: Money never sleeps? I enjoyed it. Thanks for the recommendation.

    Got my Big Love fix for the week. I might have to watch it again. Not sure I concentrated like I should.

  19. @Moon-howler
    You mean like the President?

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/02/a-day-in-the-life-of-the-obama-white-house-mubarak-must-go-stay-go-we-dont-want-any-games/

    I understood what she said. She was saying that the administration should be upfront about what it knows about who is controlling or organizing this “revolution.” Why did the President throw his support behind the Muslim Brotherhood and abandon his support for an American ally? This is Carter all over again.

  20. Rick Bentley

    I didn’t like Wall Street 2 much. Very preachy instead of being a good story. The first one is a great example of characters and a human story that illustrates something, indirectly. Gordan Gecko is INTERESTING in that one. The second one has unreal characters and situations and is just an excuse for Stone to get on a high horse.

  21. Juturna

    Give it up. Sarah Palin is attractive and a sensation. She says all the things that you hear in a local coffee shop where grumbeling is an American pastime. She has very few solutions except some rhetorical gettiup and go phraseology that’s supposed to ‘fire me up’…..

    I’m glad you understand her. Few do. The Tea Party (although more Puritan-esque than Founding Father-esque) won’t survive with her as a leader. It will “sputter out of rhetoric” due to the lack of solutions.

  22. marinm

    @Cato the Elder

    Thanks for the tip about Qdoba. I think I’ll check it out! 🙂 At Chipotle’s they cringe whenever I ask for two scoops of the hot sauce. My wife thinks it can peel paint but I usually am still begging for a little bit more of a kick.

    Cato, any opinions on NASDAQ getting h4x0r’d?

  23. Cato the Elder

    @marinm

    Probably someone looking for material non-public information that they could trade off of. They didn’t get to the trading network, but they compromised a web service that’s used by company executives to share information before it goes public in an SEC filing.

    It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that some scummy hedge fund is behind it. 🙂

  24. Rick Bentley

    Qdabo isn’t so great IMO, it’s like a less impressive copy of Chipotle.

    Speaking of Chipotle, apparently ICE is pressuring them to stop hiring illegal immigrants, in the Northern Virginia area – http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110204/ts_nm/us_chipotle

  25. marinm

    Wouldn’t be poetic justice if Chipotle’s responded back with: We’ll respect the law as soon as the govt does, too.

    🙂

  26. @Cargosquid

    He has not thrown his weight behind the Muslim brotherhood. And no one but a fool would start shooting off their mouth about everything they know at this point. Palin needs to learn that is she is ever going to move past running for dog catcher at this point.

    God she is just nasty.

  27. Chipotle has had a bunch of fraudulent ss#s etc in Minnesota. They fired them and then got demonstrated on.

    Interesting that all the restaurants are corporate. I seriously doubt that they have any worse of a track record than anyone else. The franchise guys with McDonalds, KFC, YUM, etc are just harder to lump together. Chipotle’s corporate structure seems to make them an easier target. Visual inspection tells me they are definitely not the most egregious offenders.

    I am waiting to see how e-verify picks out fraudelent paper work.

  28. @Rick, I don’t disagree with you re Wall Street. I enjoyed it though. I liked the first one better. Gekko is an interesting character.

    If Stone wanted to get on a high horse, I think he picked the wrong horse. He missed the mark on pointing out abuses on Wall St.

  29. Pat.Herve

    all this talk about Chipolte, and how bad they the company is because of them hiring illegals, yet we still give them our business….

    we do not need any laws to fix the situation – we just have to stop giving our dollars to the businesses that hire illegals. We have groups that tried to organize an anti-grope day with TSA, why don’t one of those groups have a national boycott Chipolte Day because they employed these illegals aliens – that would let management know that the tax paying citizens do not like the business practice – but alas, we will not, we will continue to go there…

  30. Juturna

    People don’t have enough convictions to join together and DO anything. If there was that conviction, we wouldn’t have half the mess that we have in Washington. We have dumbed ourselves down and “lazied” our way out…….

  31. Juturna

    Maybe Mrs. Obama is on to something regarding fast food…..

  32. marinm

    Pat, have you tried the barbacoa bowl w/ black beans, rice, hot sauce, cheese and lettuce? It’s divine.

    I can’t really blame Chipotle’s because I doubt that Corporate *wants* to hire illegals. I think that some get through at the local store level using false documents or because some store manager looks the other way for whatever reason. Now, if you can point to a memo that says “Hire illegals because they are cheaper and if they need healthcare we’ll just fire them” I think you’ll have more people jump into the boycott wagon.

  33. Need to Know

    @Juturna

    I watched the linked show on Book TV this weekend (I know, my home is not the most exciting place to be on a weekend). The speaker is much too far to the left for me, but I agree with and and share his concerns about the death of independent book stores and newspapers, and the consolidation of media for corporate profit in the US. It’s a scary discussion. I’m conservative but favor wide availability of books, newpapers, magazines, blogs, etc. spanning from the left to the right, and vigorous discussion and debate.

    Talking about dumbing ourselves down and lazying our way out . . . .

    http://www.booktv.org/Program/12085/Words+Money.aspx

  34. Juturna

    Probably because the store manager has fewer resources with the same or higher expectations. It could be called ‘suffer and permit’.

  35. Varealest

    Vick was a product of the thug culture. Dog fignting with pit bulls occurs to this day in hampton Roads as well as PWC. Do you think the punishment fit the crime? Big Ben “sexually assults” Women (human being type) and he does not get charged in exchange for a four game suspension at his day job, Ben gets a pass on the criminal aspect of his behavior. Ray Lewis was at the least, an uncooperative witness to a murder and most, likely a party to a murder of a man. (human being type). He is, as one commentator put it, “destined” for the Hall of Fame. Vick’s criminal enterprise was foul but did he really deserve to be sent to federal prison? If so check into the horse racing and dog racing industry as they currently operate and we can fill the remaining prison cells with cruel people.

  36. Varealest

    Moon-howler :@Cargosquid
    He has not thrown his weight behind the Muslim brotherhood. And no one but a fool would start shooting off their mouth about everything they know at this point. Palin needs to learn that is she is ever going to move past running for dog catcher at this point.
    God she is just nasty.

    She would have to come up some to get to “nasty”.
    @Moon-howler

  37. Juturna

    NTK – given that the intellectual decline well into it’s second decade in the US and the fact that the word liberal can be defined as “open to progress and reform” you may find that you are comfortable being liberal in some areas and won’t feel the need to so quickly clarify that you’re ‘really’ a conservative. 🙂

    The number of independant bookstores has declined nationally to just under 2,000. It’s not just a place to pick up a book – it’s a culture of discussion, listening and occasional surprise at what is gleaned or even an ephiphany of sorts. That’s what the independant’s bring to us. That’s what we’ve willingly forsaken. Book signings, author series even readings are an art that is fading into the past.

    Such a shame….

  38. @Pat, If they have filled out an I-9 and have been given paperwork that indicates they are documented, it seems to me that we are jumping the gun. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty.

    I don’t know that they are knowingly hiring undocumented workers.

    Additionally, I have read some information recently that I KNOW isn’t true and I don’t have to go real far to find it. Just the touch of the keyboard……

    I think there is a great deal of leap to judgement going on and I know where the source is.

  39. @Varealest

    I agree with you re Vick. I am no fan of Vick. I thought he was a thug when he was at Tech. He thought he was a hot shot who was above the rules. However, he seems to have come out of prison a changed man and has earned the respect of his team mates. For this he is to be commended. I hope the new man continues. I will never forget that video of him stomping on someone who was down.

    As for Big Ben, someone needs to ring his chimes so they stop working. He got off with a slap on the wrist as far as I am concerned.

  40. Come on NTK, admit that some aspects of being a conservative just embarrass you now. What would happen if you woke up and discovered you were a moderate? OMG!!! :mrgreen:

  41. Need to Know

    @Moon-howler

    In the sense of the Ronald Reagan/William F. Buckley conservatism that I grew up with and that prevailed during my formative intellectual years, I still proudly wear the moniker. In the sense of opportunistic buffoons such as Palin and Corey Stewart who say whatever occurs whenever a couple of neurons manage to flash in their heads, and then describe that manifestation as “conservatism,” I cringe.

    I remember fondly the days of watching shows like “Firing Line” and hearing intelligent discussions between people like Buckley and Galbraith. Reagan’s diaries and other materials are now proving what I’ve known all along. He was far more intelligent and thoughtful than people gave him credit for at the time.

    Now we have Palin the reality TV star, and Glen Beck, who often just makes up stuff. Neither has any background in or has done any serious study of any of the topics they purport to know something about. I don’t see them as part of conservatism. They are just members of the entertainment industry.

    Reference my post above about the BookTV program. I have no doubt that I could have an enjoyable conversation with that speaker even though we are at different ends of the political spectrum. However much I might disagree with much of what he says, he would be saying it sincerely and based on a reasonable amount of thought and deliberation. Trying to have an intelligent conversation with Stewart but knowing that whatever is coming out of his mouth is nothing more than whatever he thinks will forward his personal agenda of the moment and get more developer money into his campaign coffers would be a traumatic experience.

    1. @NTK

      Probably Reagan would be considered a moderate by today’s standards.

  42. Juturna

    It’s safe to say that most thinking/thoughtful people are conservative in most of their thoughts, words and actions. I have some friends that think the label provides a certain style or appearance they so badly need to show the world. I find that masks great insecurity.

    I’ll take intellectual, kind, sincere and/or thoughful thinker over a meaningless political label. Not so limiting.

  43. Juturna

    It’s safe to say that most thinking/thoughtful people are conservative in most of their thoughts, words and actions. I have some friends that think the label provides a certain style or appearance they so badly need to show the world. I find that masks great insecurity.

    I’ll take intellectual, kind, sincere and/or thoughful thinker over a meaningless political label. Not so limiting.

    Try not to find so much fault all the time – don’t notice everything. That too can be limiting.

  44. Rick Bentley

    I’m starting a new political movement – http://antiparty.wordpress.com/

  45. Let’s hope there is a follow up on this story:

    http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/feb/07/ice-probes-chipotle-restaurants-woodbridge-manassa-ar-826370/

    Myguess is that restaurant chain is not the only one in question.

  46. Juturna

    RB – I checked out the link. 🙂

  47. Juturna

    MH – Chipotle is probably one of many being investigated through audits. I posted the link to that article somewhere here.

  48. Wolverine

    I am highly amused by the frequent focus here on Palin and Beck. They have both discovered the old fire bell syndrome as a way to keep things hopping and their personas up front and center. For a long while I thought this tactic would be reserved only to a few like Rush Limbaugh and Al Sharpton, both of whom perfected it. They discovered how to use the resulting attacks to build an empathy vote in their favor.

    What is the old fire bell syndrome? It harkens back to the days when fire companies changed from horse-drawn equipment to motorized vehicles. Some of the fire fighters did not like the idea of selling off the horses to the proverbial glue factory or to be used as common drudges in dray or farm service. So they kept the stables intact and let the horses live out their lives in honorable retirement at the fire house. As an old timer once explained it to me, whenever the fire bell went off in the fire house, the horses would start to snort and stomp around in anticipation of being harnessed to the engines and run through the streets at top speed once again, just like the old days. The horses never seemed to get past it. The old fire bell syndrome. Pavlovian, I would say.

    Beck and Palin have gotten it. It seems never to fail. They have only to say a few choice words, and the claws come out. The attacks come exactly as anticipated, accompanied by downright nasty “I hate them” invective and all kinds of denigration of character, ability, and veracity. And the watchers of this begin to think that the opposition, always just itching to leap to the attack when the fire bell rings, are a bunch of haters, having nothing better to do than lie in wait for Beck and Palin, grinding their teeth and sharpening their claws. Palin is stupid and uninformed! Beck is a hatemonger! How dare they question the “Leader”? Meanwhile, Beck and Palin are laughing all the way to bank. What is that old adage? Isn’t it something like: “Those whom you would defeat you first drive mad”?

    So, Palin, as an American and someone with access to media, apparently is wrong to raise questions about the policies of our elected POTUS or to demand that the Oval Office level with the rest of us? Truly then, could not the same be said about a blog that goes after a certain head of a county board of supervisors on a regular basis? Au contraire, mes amis. It seems to me that both are allowed in this great country of ours. Both, in my opinion, are at the very center point of our freedoms. Neither party should be told simply to shut up just because others do not like their message. Tough luck. Deal with the issues, not the personalities. And especially stop this business about how much smarter you are than they are. Really?

  49. Juturna

    So MH – I haven’t watched BL yet. Has anyone figured out how many episodes there are this year? It seemed like five last year!!

  50. Pat.Herve

    when hundreds of employees in Minnesota alone are undocumented workers – http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/07/us-usa-immigration-fastfood-idUSTRE71664T20110207 – more than half of their employees in that state – then, Yes, it is a corporate problem. There is no way that this could be going on, and the home office not know anything about it – who in management was fired? Chipotle restaurants in NOVA are now being audited, I wonder what they will find here….

    Note – Chipotle restaurants are not franchises – they are all corporate owned.

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