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Delegate Lingamfelter stated after his bill went down in defeat:

“Sadly we were defeated by apologists for unlawfully present people who have actually committed serious crimes.”

I am not quite sure what he is saying.   What are apologists for unlawfully present people?   

Like most folks here, I  support our 287g  program,.  The problem with Del. Lingamfelter’s bill was that it forced every locality into buying in to 287g.  Prince William is a wealthy county compared to many jurisdicitons in Virginia.  Many areas are already strapped for cash.  The program is not free. 

If states are howling and suing about having their citizens buy health care, how are localities going to feel about PWC dictating that they have to have 287g?  It sounded like an unfunded mandate to me.   Prince William County does not need to look like the big bully on the block. 

Having said that, is ‘unlawfully present people’ the new PC for undocumented?  I guess I applaud his efforts for trying.  I am glad he didn’t say ‘illegals.’  I just want to make sure I understand the expression. 

 

 

 

8 Thoughts to “Apologists for unlawfully present people?”

  1. George S. Harris

    This is the same Lingamfelter who doesn’t want red light cameras although they have been shown to save lives. This is the same Lingamfelter who wants to invade the uterus of every woman in the Commonwealth by denying them access to abortions. This is the same Lingamfelter who said he was going to save the Commonwealth millions of dollars by not having legislative “stuff” printed–turned out to be much ado about nothing.

  2. Elena

    Go George!!!!!

    It’s funny, Republicans want to keep the federal government out of the business of the states, but Linginfelter promotes putting the states rules into every locality? I think they call that an “unfunded mandate” ? Someone, anyone please, tell me why this isn’t hyprocrisy!

  3. IVAN

    I believe Lingamfelter’s bill gave police the right to question the status of any one they come in contact with, similiar to PWC’s original resolution. This of course brings up the question of profiling.
    The 287G bill was Jackson(“My town is in flames”) Miller’s. He’s been beating this drum for a few years now. If you lived in a rural area(Pulaski,Botetot,Highland county,etc.) that did not have a “problem”, you would be compelled to join anyway. The question is who would pay for the ICE training for all these Detention Center personnel? The State has it’s budget problems already. My guess is that the cost would be dumped on the local jurisdictions as an “unfunded” mandate. Up go your taxes so Miller and a few others could score political points.

  4. George S. Harris

    Two years ago, Lingamfelter hinted that his proposal, which came as the result of an “ephiphany” at home, to have legislative material put on-line instead of printed would be saving the Commonwealth $8 MILLION. Funny, we never heard any more about it. I think the “true”savings was perhaps less than $1 MILLION. So much for an epiphany!

    Do you suppose it was a similar “epiphany” that caused him to sponsor anti-abortion legislature? Did some golden coat hanger come down and touch him?

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    Delegate gets document cutback

    By Cheryl Chumley

    Published: January 21, 2009
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    Del. Scott Lingamfelter, R-Dist. 31, said he looked at the stack of papers in his home and epiphany hit.

    “There must have been a foot high stack of stuff that I’d been sent from people. It was all printed material, high gloss color, and it looked like a million bucks,” the Prince William delegate and House Appropriations Committee member said. “Turned out, that’s what it was.”

    Well, 8 million, really.

    One Freedom of Information Act request to the governor’s office later, and Lingamfelter said he discovered government offices were “spending more than $8 million a year in just printing stuff that frankly, nobody reads.”

    The documents ranged from annual reports to executive agency studies.

    But all, he said, shared one common factor: “They can all go online. There’s utterly no reason to print them,” Lingamfelter said.

    The response, when he shared these findings in December with the executive level, was immediate.

    “Thank you for bringing to my attention the information on state spending for publications,” Gov. Timothy M. Kaine wrote in a Jan. 6 letter. “I agree with you that the nearly $8 million executive branch agencies are spending on publications annually deserves greater scrutiny.”

    And in an e-mail to all cabinet and deputy secretaries, Kaine’s chief of staff, Wayne Turnage, directed that all agencies refrain immediately from printing documents, except those that are considered mission critical — tourism maps and Department of Motor Vehicle driving manuals, for example.

    “There shall be no further use of state resources, general and non-general fund, to pay for the printing of documents,” Turnage wrote. “Agencies are allowed to request business case exceptions for documents which must be printed in support of the organization’s mission … all other documents should be made available electronically, and this includes all annual reports.”

    Staff writer Cheryl Chumley can be reached at 703-670-1907.

  5. Unlawfully present? Would that be the same as trespassing?

  6. @Cargo, dunno. Isn’t that a strange expression.

  7. Apparently it is Lingamfelter’s attempt to appear intellectual–but turns out to be psuedointellectual. Can any of you point to one piece of legislation this session that does anything about taxes, decreasing government spending, or improving transportation? Or was it all male bovine merde like the stuff Lingamfelter, Marshall and Miller proposed?

  8. George….curses…I just spit my soda on the computer screen. You rascal!!! Totally funny. Male bovine merde indeed!

    Remind me to show you how to do that in sign language.

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