Ireland Forever. 

And a green beer to to with it.

Will the government shut down?  Will the Japanese get the nuclear plant under control?  Will the stock market correct?  Will the middle east settle down?  These are uncertain times.

127 Thoughts to “Open Thread……………Erin Go Bragh………………………..3/17”

  1. Lafayette

    Juturna :Laf- you could be honorary either if you bake some of those up. I hear you’re quite the baker.

    I will get the recipes and give them a whirl. I baked 8 dozen cookies last night and spinach dip for the County Chorus Festival at Stonewall. Went to a banquet tonight and took bought food. I just didn’t have it in me to make something for tonight, on top of all of that last night.

  2. Juturna

    NTK – start a blog. Registered democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2:1 in West Virgina. All those coal miners that need Union protection from business….. Massachusetts is about 2.5:1 and they have the Red Sox 🙂

  3. Juturna

    Pleeeaaasssse do. Worth another lunch??!!!

  4. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Morris Davis :
    In a poll out yeterday, independent voters prefer Charlie Sheen over Sarah Palin. Does that hurt? You betcha. http://politi.co/fgKikZ Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker also scored high among republicans and there’s talk of him as a presidential candidate in 2012. Talk about going old school … every President in the 20th and so far 21st century earned a college degree. Sporting a high school diploma, Walker would break that trend, which goes back to the 1800s.

    Well, Obama has proven that a college degree doesn’t mean much anymore, but you’re focused in the right place! Sarah Palin is where you should focus. I’m behind your efforts 100%!

  5. @Slow

    And why is it exactly that you think SP should hold anyone’s focus? Did she go to college? Oh yea, 5 of them.

  6. marinm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muXovEBakag

    FWIW, she was nominated on a 6-4 vote but it was telling that she had to admit the Obama plan only added to the deficit. Oops.

    Good to know her Masters in Public Affairs landed her to as the Dep Dir of OMB.

  7. marin, are you proud that this smug, smirking son of a bitch senator kept interrupting this young woman? Nice game of gotcha. He won no points with me. Anyone can use that good ole boy southern drawl and play weasel words.

    If you buy a house for $200,000. depending on your interest rate, you will pay triple that over the years, if you are lucky. Yet you are in debt for $200,000 on your credit report.

    I used to try to see everyone’s point of view. That bad habit is rapidly vaporizing every day I spend on this blog.

    I have no idea what FWIW means. Is that some sort of conservative speak?

  8. Lafayette

    For What It’s Worth, it’s not conservative speak.

  9. marinm

    @Moon-howler

    Sort of. I wish Senators would do their jobs and grill everyone.

    @Lafayette, ty. 🙂

    1. @marin, you don’t see that was an acting job? I thought it was quite a performance.

  10. marinm

    @Moon-howler

    Of course it was. He also knew the vote would be in her favor so the entire thing was theatre. I point you to what I said above… “I wish Senators would do their jobs and grill everyone.”

    Yah, it wasn’t bad at all. I guess I’m also partial to the Southerns using the drawl…. that’s fine art.

  11. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Moon-howler :
    @Slow
    And why is it exactly that you think SP should hold anyone’s focus? Did she go to college? Oh yea, 5 of them.

    I’m telling ya’..Sarah Palin is under your bed at night!

    1. @Slowpoke, Then you should be green with envy.

  12. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Lafayette :
    @Need to Know
    We are going to WVa. for retirement too.

    You sure got a purty mouth!

  13. @marinm

    Does SHE have a name? It would be helpful if you are using acronymns to write it out once, then abbreviate. I need to remember to do that also.

  14. Second Alamo

    For What It’s Worth (FWIW I’m guessing)

  15. marinm

    She as the nominee? Her name is Heather A. Higginbottom. It’s subtitled and the name plate in front of her says Ms. Higgingbottom.

    FWIW is For What It’s Worth. Just standard blog/internet shorthand.

    1. @marin, so is ttfn and BTAIM. It is helpful to those of us who don’t use that terminology to see it once…then use it in acronym for as often as you would like. You are probably on more blogs in a day than I am. I don’t remember them all–not even close.

      I wasn’t sure who you were talking about. Actually, I am not even sure the point you are making about her. She seemed like an articulate woman who got interrupted every time she started to answer. Not all answers are dimensional.

  16. Big Dog

    http://www.coopercenter.org/demographics

    FYI: According to the 2010 census, PWC and the two cities rank in the top five
    of Virginia jurisdictions in percentage of:

    -under 18 year olds

    -Hispanics

    -bi-racial individuals

  17. Interesting stat, Big dog. I am venturing a guess that the bi-racial component there has nothing to do with hispanics.

  18. Juturna

    LOL Obama has proved that college degrees don’t mean too much any more. LOL LOL
    This isn’t even real conversation. Sound like a lot of compensation going on here. LOL LOL

  19. Second Alamo

    We definitely are no longer the overseer of the free world. Our POTUS is traveling while the world is heating up. Now that’s leadership in the best American tradition!

  20. Juturna

    Thank goodness we’re not anymore. Now we can save some bucks and take care of our own people….. America first.

  21. Big Dog

    M-H,
    Agree. Was simply underlining three areas where PWC and the two
    cities show the highest percentages in Virginia.

    1. What were the other areas?

      I think, judging from what I know about the area, that most bi-racial people/kids are black and white. At least that has been what I have experienced.

      Hispanics tend to not mingle in that department, generally speaking.

  22. Juturna

    PWC has had the third highest juvenile population for over a decade. Why schools and school officers were so valued at one time.

  23. Juturna

    Suffolk County was one. Will have to look up the other.

  24. Juturna

    M-H – I’d say that first and second generations immigrants do tend to marry within their ethnic groups….

  25. Big Dog

    – As you read the Weldon-Cooper website, you will note that nearly
    as many multi-racial individuals are Asian-White as Black-White.
    (Plus, over 19,000 Virginians report their heritage as three or more races).

    – Take away: PWC and the two cities, compared to the rest of the
    Commonwealth, have the highest % of young people, Hispanics and
    multiracial individuals. ( Also, PWC is home to over 30,000 Asians).

  26. Raymond Beverage

    The interesting thing about the Weldon Cooper Center was they were not far off from their population projections using the 2000 Census to the current one. For the County, if I recall, they were only off by about 150. US Census will not be releasing more demographics till October-November timeframe, so will be interesting to compare them with Weldon Cooper to see how close they got in terms of age breakouts and the rest of the demographics.

  27. Second Alamo

    Bush had his Iraq, and now Obama has Libya. Lets see if the media treats them the same. Had Bush not immediately returned to the states while this was taking place we would have never heard the end of it from the media.

  28. Juturna

    I hope not. Does this mean the Smithsonian will have to close? After all, it really only serves a small percent of the US population – everyone else has to get here and pay for hotels/resturants. All our $$ is going to help everyone else (:

  29. Big Dog

    Leaping jump shots.

    G.M.U., V.C.U., Richmond — the Commonwealth has game!
    (And without big boys VT or UVA).

  30. Juturna

    SA – even Fox&Friends decided to get off that …. the President is never off the clock. I think #43 was demonstrating the benefits of working from home. As for coming home because we’re swatting Gaddafi – it would send a message I hope is not necessary.

    “…The presidential vacation-time record holder is the late Ronald Reagan, who tallied 436 days in his two terms. At 418 days, and with 17 months to go in his presidency, Bush is going to beat that easily.” And I don’t blame them.

  31. Big Dog

    http://www.slate.com/id/2288514/

    So a disaster doesn’t always mean a new “free” TV? Wow.

  32. @Big Dog
    I think they are in the eastern end. I sure haven’t seen many here. Gainesville perhaps?

  33. @Second Alamo
    Technology changes alot in ten years. I am sure either president is capable of handling things from wherever he is. What is it you can do in the White House that you can’t do elsewhere?

  34. Why are we involved in yet another middle east conflict? Gaddafi has been around for decades. Why do we suddenly want to take a position on it?

    I hope this is a drive by and nothing else. I would vote for staying out of the middle east.

    If those people don’t like living under a dictator, take care of it.

  35. Second Alamo

    Well that settles it. No matter what, Obama can do no wrong, period. Maybe this proves that his ‘leadership’ isn’t required even though he is commander in chief of the armed forces about to engage a foreign country with offensive actions. Oh forget it, I’m speaking to deaf ears anyway when it comes to the subject of Obama. Come to think of it MH if he can run our military from anywhere as you say, then couldn’t he also carry on business with Brazil from anywhere? He had two choices the White House or Brazil, and he chose to go to Brazil and conduct the nation’s business remotely rather than the other way around. Poor choice!

    1. Tommy Franks ran the war in Iraq from Florida. Anything is possible.

      I am not sure why you say he made a poor choice. Please explain. The trip to Brazil was etched in stone weeks ago, maybe months. The vote to zap Libya was just voted on last week.

      Again, what is it that you want Obama to do? Wring his hands? He can do that from Brazil also.

  36. Why are WE attacking Qadaffi? Why are WE attacking Libya? Do the French, Germans, Italians, etc, not have enough weaponry just over that lake called the Mediterranean? Furthermore, what national interest is involved that makes it necessary for us to do this? Where is Obama’s request for authorization to attack another country from Congress? I thought that the Democrats were all about Congressional authority to do this? I haven’t heard any objections to this attack.

    1. I don’t know why we are even involved. @Cargo. I am certainly not sure we should be.

      I am scratching my head over this one.

  37. marinm

    In my uneducated opinion I think the Libyan decision is actually pretty consistent with Mr. Obama’s leadership and campaign promises. He doesn’t want the US to be seen as the World’s Police and be the leader of global diplomacy. He wanted the UN to make the call and the US would support the global consensus.

    This of course PO’d the Europeans who are used to us being in charge and in the lead. Well, the EU minus France who will use this situation to show that they still have a few gonads left. The UK is probably irked. Germany would probably care less what happens in Libya.

    The ME also can’t claim that the US is picking on them again… we swear..no ground troops. Just Clintonian missles from afar.

    Also the US not in the lead keeps that Peace Prize lookin’ good.

    Sarkozy is probably tickled pink that he gets to look like the white knight.

    But, I can’t find Libya on a map so take the above with a grain of salt. 🙂

  38. Cato the Elder

    You have to understand that area of the world to understand the problem.

    If you think our anti-immigrant sentiments are bad, you’ve never talked to French residents of places like Toulon or Marseilles. They hate North African immigrants (and Libyans in particular) with a fever our nativists can only dream about, so of course Sarkozy is going to act. To not do so would be to concede the entire south of France to his political opponents.

    Further, what do we really know about these Libyan “rebels?” The more we find out, the more it looks like this is a fight between the forces of Al Qaeda and those of a bloodthirsty despot, and but for the humanitarian consequences the smartest course of action is to foot-drag until they either wipe each other out or fight to a standstill. I’d rather deal with the devil I know than risk a mini Iran in North Africa.

  39. @Cato, so fill us in. Why do they hate them so much? Is it recent hate or old time hate dating back a century?

    @marin I am more than willing to not look like the biggest baddest mofo on the block to avoid getting the big bill at the end of the trip like we usually do.

  40. Second Alamo

    Birds of a feather flock together, and don’t come to my family reunion if you aren’t part of the family! Now what’s wrong with this statement? Common sense I’d say, but when it comes to a country’s populace everything gets reversed. Those entering a new country can have their cake and eat it too. They can form their own cultural enclave within the country, and yet demand the country treats them with indifference when they are clearly culturally different. Culture clashes are due to unacceptable differences, and that will always be the case, or at least it has been for all of recorded history. In the best of cases the different cultures work to remove those differences within their culture that the other cultures object to. When this doesn’t occur, then clashes are inevitable.

  41. Big sale on all Ken Burns video on PBS website.

  42. Juturna

    $64M spent in one evening. That’s just the cost of the missiles.

  43. punchak

    Moon-howler :I don’t know why we are even involved. @Cargo. I am certainly not sure we should be.
    I am scratching my head over this one.

    Why are we involved? We’re the “good guy in the white hat”. Democracy is to be spread around the world, and we are the ones to do it. When it suits us.

    You might be too young to remember Hungary 1956. There was an uprising against USSR, quite successful. US had promised to “stand by” and assist the Hungarians who wanted out from under the yoke of Russia. Well, we reneged. Russia won, of course.

    The Prague spring when Alexander Dubcek was on the cusp of overthrowing the Russian stronghold on the country. Everybody knew what was going on. Everybody knew that Russia was about to invade Czechoslovakia. We had troops right by the border in Germany. Did we do anything? No! In August 1968 Russian tanks rolled through the streets of Prague dismantling all communication facilities and squelching the uprising and muffling the voice of Alexander Dubcek, who was the leader of the uprising.

    The US did not do ANYthing. I don’t know what’s right or wrong on cases like this, but it seems other countries are determined to get of the insane Gadaffi.

  44. Punchak said:

    You might be too young to remember Hungary 1956.

    If only. I don’t remember much about it though, only seeing tanks on TV. Pretty scary for a kid.

    I don’t know what’s right or wrong either. I don’t know why we go bombing Libya and not some of these other rogue nations.

    I think in 56 we were just chicken. And I don’t mean that in a critical away. Perhaps someone was trying to draw us into a nuclear conflict.

  45. Wolverine

    The devil you know was, at a minimum, the inspiration for and most probably the hand directly behind the demise of Pan Am 103. This is, inter alia, a debt which remains unpaid. Time for him to ante up for his sins.

  46. Is that what this is all about? funny how that $$ and debt all of a sudden takes a back seat to retribution.

    There are lots of evil people in the world. How to we pick and chose who gets the ax? That’s the part I haven’t figured out.

    I am all in favor of someone else being king cop for a while.

  47. Emma

    Bye-bye, Big Love 🙁

  48. Lafayette

    Emma :Bye-bye, Big Love

    I’m ready to watch, but not ready for the show to come to an end. I hope HBO does better with this ending then they did with Oz, The Sopranos, and Six Feet Under.
    Sad Sunday on Lafayette. 🙁

  49. I don’t want it to end either. Wouldn’t it be neat if they came on at the end and announced that it was all a hoax about it being the last show of the last season.?????

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