From State Line Daily:

The National Labor Relations Board has moved to stop Boeing from building airplanes at a nonunion plant in South Carolina. The Board suggests that a unionized American company cannot, without violating federal labor law, expand its operations into one of the 22 states with right-to-work laws, which protect a worker’s right to join or not join a union.

Here is the question:  Can a company in a right to work state move or open a branch in a state that is a union state?  Is it the existence of a union in that company that makes this a National Labor Relations Board issue?

I believe this decision is dead wrong.  I can’t tell you why I think blocking Boeing is wrong, I just feel it is.  Decisions like this one makes for bad feelings about organized labor.

14 Thoughts to “Boeing and the Union”

  1. marinm

    Well said, MH.

  2. Dan Cooper

    If it has to do with the NLRB you can bet on one thing… they will ALWAYS side with big labor. The entire department has been stacked with union bosses from SEIU and AFL-CIO.

    Wow Moon, we actually agree on something!

    1. Then who bosses the unions while their union bosses are busy sitting on the NLRB”?

      I have said all along I am not exactly what one might call a pro union person.

  3. Here is some information on NLRB:

    The Board
    The Board has five Members and primarily acts as a quasi-judicial body in deciding cases on the basis of formal records in administrative proceedings. Board Members are appointed by the President to 5-year terms, with Senate consent, the term of one Member expiring each year.
    Learn more >.The General Counsel

    The General Counsel, appointed by the President to a 4-year term, is independent from the Board and is responsible for the investigation and prosecution of unfair labor practice cases and for the general supervision of the NLRB field offices in the processing of cases.

    Considering the goals and objectives, the board doesn’t seem to out of line.

    DC, they aren’ t union bosses. They are mostly attorneys with strong background with unions.

    http://www.nlrb.gov/who-we-are/board

  4. Need to Know

    Here, here Moon, well said. Businesses have a right to locate anywhere in the U.S. they chose. These dimwitted union bosses and lawyers are going to cause Boeing to dump the U.S. altogether and move the plant to Mexico, India or China. I suppose the unions would prefer that move to non-union American workers in South Carolina getting the jobs.

    Here’s a suggestion that respects freedom of choice for all Americans. Boeing builds the plant wherever in the U.S. it wants. If Boeing choses a right to work state, the unions make a case to the workers, free from intimidation or threats, regarding unionizing. If the workers vote against the union, the union goes away.

  5. Censored bybvbl

    And who will be crying the blues when locating in a southern, non-union state isn’t enough and companies decide to locate to a cheaper area overseas? Where do you expect decent paying jobs in the US to be? If you’re an IT person thinking that you can’t be replaced by someone here on a VISA, think again. There’s always someone who will do your work for less. Give us another decade and we’ll all be flipping burgers (which will be made overseas) for minimum wage – if there is still such a thing. Overseas investment will be the only way to survive.

  6. @Censored bybvbl
    Then the goal of America should be to make THIS country attractive to business.

    Because if we don’t produce, if we can’t get used to a lower standard of living because we are unwilling to do so, we starve and freeze in the dark.

  7. marinm

    It’s also not in business best interest to move everything off shore. Business needs consumers and if we don’t have enough people here that want to work and toil for the things we want to buy and the time off to enjoy them.. they lose out.

    I echo Cargo. Keep it more attractive to set up and keep shop HERE than other countries. It may require compromise from employees who are used to getting their way.

    IIRC even with Boeing not expanding in Seattle with that additional line (factory) and instead going to South Carolina not one union employee lost his/her job. Boeing was doing their best to keep them all gainfully employed and working.

    The union here shot themselves in the foot and isn’t really looking out for the best interest of it’s membership.

  8. There is a component of all this that we have not discussed. Let’s take a successful, non-union company like Starbucks or another company, if you choose.

    Why is it not union? Companies where most employees are happy and feel they are being treated fairly don’t unionize. Another example would be Wegmans. Every talked to anyone who worked for Wegmans who didn’t love their job? I haven’t. The chance of them going union is totally remote. Why mess up a good thing. Wegmans is nationally known and one of the top companies to work for in the United States.

    On the other hand, Giant is union isn’t it? It sure used to be. Was Purdue a union company?

  9. Dan Cooper

    @Moon-howler
    Wegmans… man that place has a knack for just sucking about $50 to $150 extra out of me each time I go there. Two tricks to defend against it:

    1.) When entering DO NOT go all of the way to the right where the beautiful steaks, fish, breads, all sorts of kabobs, pastries, sides or sushi live.

    2.) When entering DO NOT go all of the way to the left where row upon row of fine wines hang out, or the far left back corner where there is a sinister beer cave. It’s full of evil sirens calling out to destroy the savings of any man who enters, she is truly Satans bitch.

  10. Dan Cooper

    Just a quick side not on just how evil SEIU can be…

    “Harris, who attends for her special needs son, receives a small stipend from the state will now be forced to give SEIU 880 union bosses a chunk of her stipend as result of Blogo’s deal.”

    http://www.nrtwc.org/?s=list+of+seiu+in+NLRB

    Isn’t it great to know that Andy Stern, president of SEIU at the time of this, is now a member of Obama’s “Fiscal Responsibility Commission”!!!

  11. Totally agree DC re wegmans. Don’t go near the cut flowers either. I have a fatal attraction for the sunflowers.

  12. Of course, we conservatives warned that things like this would happen if Obama was elected.

    And this Congress and an admin like this is who you want to run health care?

    Mr. Smith, I’m sorry to say….your operation is on hold for a while….by the way…did you pay those union dues yet?

  13. Kelly3406

    I would argue that the attempt to stop Boeing from building airplanes in South Carolina violates the right to move from one state to another under the “Privileges and Immunities Clause” in Article IV of the U.S. Constitution.

    Using Federal labor law to control where a company does business is a recipe for disaster. It would be another drag on the economy and could further postpone recovery.

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