MoonHowler

O’Reilly thinks some in the Republican Party are overdoing it with the hateful rhetoric.

9 Thoughts to “O’Reilly calls for moderation”

  1. Kelly3406
    July 30, 2011 at 8:35 am

    You had to plow an awfully long wat through this before getting to the part about hateful rhetoric. The main point in the video was Obama’s lack of leadership.

    Speaking of leadership, Boehner did an excellent job in unifying a fractious GOP caucus. Now that a plan has passed the House, where is the compromise to get a measure passed in the Senate that the House will accept? It is to give up the balanced budget amendment. The Senate should pass the original Boehner plan, minus the balanced budget amendment. A few House democrats should then be able to vote for the plan (since it would have been approved by the Senate) to make up for Republicans who will never vote for it without the balanced budget amendment.

  2. Moon-howler
    July 30, 2011 at 11:57 am

    So after you plowed, do you agree or disagree with O’Reilly on this subject? There is just no telling what stance O’Reilly is going to take, now is there?

    Boehner might just come out of all this being a hero. I wouldn’t have wanted to be him, for sure.

    There has been compromise all along. I don’t think that the BBA will ever make it through the senate though. I don’t believe there is revenue in the House Bill either.

  3. Cargosquid
    July 30, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Moon,

    If Reid actually presents a bill, he’s stated that there’s no revenue in his either. All tax cuts BUT it extends the debt limit for two years. Or until we spend the over 2 trillion in his bill, whichever comes first.

    The problem is that Reid and Obama want any debt extension to go past election year.

    1. Moon-howler
      July 30, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      Whatever. There should be revenue in it. Those frigging cowards, and I mean all of them, need to cut off some of those millionaire tax breaks that the middle class doesn’t get.

      I am all for the debt limit being extended. 2 years works. Why would anyone want to go through this all over again? Seriously, Why would I want to lose another bunch of money while different ideologies duked it out over stupid and more stupid?

  4. Kelly3406
    July 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    I think conservatives could stand to ratchet down anti-Obama rhetoric somewhat. Their rhetoric is nowhere close to being as vicious as that directed toward Bush, but nevertheless they should engage in debate based on principle, which seems to be winning (at the moment). If they tone down the anti-Obama rhetoric, it will more difficult for Obama to change the subject, which he desperately wants to do. Conservatives have successfully focused the nation on the fact that spending is completely out of control and has to be reined in.

    1. Moon-howler
      July 30, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      Kelly, how do you measure who the recipient of the worst rhetoric was/is? I don’t think I could assess that. It was/is bad at both. It was horrible over Clinton also. I don’t recall it being that bad with any other pres. in my lifetime except maybe Carter. Not even close with Nixon.

  5. Emma
    July 30, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    The Republican party is on a death spiral. Their refusal to negotiate is just another nail in their coffin.

  6. Moon-howler
    July 30, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    They are too busy negotiating with each other. As I have said in other threads, when I start feeling sorry for John Boehner, it speaks volumes. I would not want to be him.

  7. Cargosquid
    July 30, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    The problem is that they are not conducting this like a bill. They want to make a deal. Well, that’s not how its supposed to work.

    Let the bills reach committee to hammer out a compromise. Don’t table them without a vote, like Reid did.

    And its the Democrats that are refusing to negotiate. The first compromise by the GOP was the agreement to actually raise that debt ceiling.

    After that, the Democrats have refused to consider any bill that was presented and Obama refuses to consider any bill that might affect his re-election.

    Apparently, the end of the debt ceiling isn’t THAT important to the Democrats. They WANT the markets to crash.

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