Rick Perry arrives in Iowa and immediately stepped in it by speaking ill of the Fed, an independent, non-political agency. He continued his offensiveness by suggesting that Fed chairman Ben Bernanke would be treasonous if he printed more money. He furthered his comments by saying:
“If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I dunno what y’all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treasonous in my opinion.”
Eeeewwwwwww….Rick Perry. Just swagger that smart-ass mouth right on back down to Texas. He must have had one too many corn dogs once he got off the plane to start up talk like that. Mr. Shock Jock himself needs to learn that stuff doesn’t fly once he leaves Texas.
Perry didn’t stop there. He went on to say he’s running to restore military ‘respect’ for the presidency. He should know better, as a veteran, that one doesn’t speak ill of the commander in chief while uniform. There are clear rules about that sort of thing, speaking of treason.
10 of Rick Perry’s weirdest ideas:
http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/08/15/295427/295427/
Wait a minute. Perry suggested that Texas should secede from the Union.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1891829,00.html
Now, he wants to be President of the very same Union? How is this going to work? Does he plan to kick Texas out of the Union before or after he becomes President? If after, how will his former constituents in Texas react when he gives them the boot?
The Republicans can do better than this guy. Oh, how I wish Kay Bailey Hutchison had beaten him in the primary in Texas.
I wish that also, Theseus. He got off the plane making a fool of himself. I have no clue how he is going to back-pedal the secession proclamation.
It’s gotta be tough to be one of these Republican candidates. In order to get the nomination, one has to repeat the crap heard on talk radio as Rick Perry does so eloquent in this clip. But then if he gets the nomination he has to start talking like a moderate conservative and hope that people forget comments like this so as not to alienate the 95% of Americans who aren’t hard core right wing tea partiers. It’s a tough tightrope to walk.
@El Guapo
It sounds like it would be easier to be a cat burglar.
I just listened to the clip. What an idiot. I enjoy listening to Ron Paul speak about the economy, even though I don’t agree with a lot of what he says. I don’t think we should abolish the Fed, as Ron Paul advocates, but at least Ron Paul has studied these issues, knows something about the subjects he discusses and puts forward an intelligent argument.
Moon – you are correct. Perry is just parroting stuff he’s heard on talk radio, and not doing a good job of that.
@Theseus
Good comment by Theseus. Ron Paul and some others do have knowledge of these issues. Many of the others are just repeating what they hear on talk radio and what they see on bumper stickers.
Ron Paul has said countless times that there would be no plans to “abolish the fed”. He knows that cannot be done overnight. He also knows that it most likely could not be done by him alone. No doubt he would like to do it, but he knows he can’t just snap his fingers and have it abolished. He has said that at least more light could and should be shed on what the Fed does. What he doesn’t like is an organization that hold so much power and does not answer to the people. Look at it this way. Obama would like to grant all illegals amnesty with a snap of his fingers, and when he gets in front of La Raza, he tells them he wants amnesty, but he knows he can’t just snap his fingers and do it.
Slowpoke – that’s good to hear. If Ron Paul shows a practical sense, rather than purely ideological, it makes him much more acceptable to me.
Slow – what are you talking about (re Ron Paul and the Fed) – He very much wants to end the fed – http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-01-06/its-time-to-abolish-the-fed-and-the-sec/ – and the SEC and go back to the Gold Standard, even though there is not enough gold to dig out of the ground to go back to that. Paul even wrote a book called ‘End The Fed’.
I also dispute what you say about Obama and amnesty.
As with many situations, you can find plenty of online videos, articles, and the like that say Paul just wants to snap his fingers and end the fed. I know, he says it all the time. If you listen to paul’s speeches and read what he’s written (this is stuff you have to look for, and not what the media is going to feed you), you would see that yes, he would love to abolish the fed, but he knows it can’t be done with a snap of his fingers. I can’t remember if it was during this last debate, or an interview after it, but he acknowledges that abolishing the fed overnight would likely cause some economic turmoil. He outlined an approach that first involves finding out what they are hiding (which may be nothing! But we don’t know!). I am acutely aware that these statements he makes are shocking (even I wanted to hear more about the Iran thing). But if you look for interviews with Paul where he can explain things in more detail than two minutes on a stage, he actually makes sense. I guess what I don’t like about Paul is that he at times seems to bring EVERY little thing back to the Fed. If there’s a lizard going extinct in New Mexico, it’s the Fed’s fault. Regarding Obama and amnesty….we’re never going to agree on that, and thankfully it’s somewhat in the background these days. I don’t feel like wasting ammunition on it until the legislative push for amnesty comes up again. I really believe we’ve got bigger issues to deal with.
Secure Communities program began under Bush with 14 jurisdictions.. under Obama it was expanded to 1,210.
@SlowpokeRodriguez
I don’t think he wants to grant amnesty. Perhaps you and I disagree on what amnesty means.
Pokie, do you think NCLR is any different than the NAACP, function-wise?
We disagree, won’t argue the point. Maybe when they try to push the DREAM act or CIR again, we can pick it back up.
yea, that saves energy. @pokie
Right now there really isn’t much to debate. Nothing going on.
The double standard in this country is breathtaking. During the past month or so, the Tea Party and its adherents have been called terrorists, Taliban, and jihadists and described as always ready to put party above country, just to mention a few choice labels applied by the Left and the media and even by some high level Democrats, right up to the Vice-President of the United States. They are all in one way or another euphemisms for traitor. But, let one Republican slip with the word “treasonous” concerning monetary policy by the Fed, and he becomes a swaggering smart-ass mouth who ought to be exiled back to Texas. Either the political rule book in this country is askew, or there are two sets of rules.
The thread comment on “respect” for the C-in-C and the prohibition against speaking out against the C-in-C while in uniform does not, in my opinion, have a real connect. If you do not see that, then you have never been really close to a very hotly debated and contentious war, especially one in which so many of the combattants are unhappy conscripts. Silence for fear of punishment under the military code of conduct does not necessarily equate to respect for one’s commander.
And the president has been called a Muslim when he isn’t one, a terrorist, incompetent, a socialist, a traitor, etc.
I have a lot of other reasons why I would want to send him back to Texas.
He is also speaking of a agency that is not supposed to be partisan. Bernanke was appointed by a Republican. Most presidents keep whoever is in there when they take office. Alan Greenspan is an example.
Remember Patton? Perfect example of why you don’t show disrespect for C in C or anyone else’s. Whether the disrespect is shown or not, an officer can be disciplined for offenses.
And yes…I have been around during hotly contested wars. However, I wasn’t in the field. Hanging around the bar comes a little closer to it.
MH said: “…. He went on to say he’s running to restore military ‘respect’ for the presidency. He should know better, as a veteran, that one doesn’t speak ill of the commander in chief while uniform.”
I do not understand this statement since he left the military in 1977. How did Perry speak ill of the president while in uniform?
He didn’t. It was about his comment about wanting to restore honor and respect to the military. He should remember.
Actually, let me give you a little agreement on your specific point. Obama HAS expanded the Secure Communities program. And, in fact, Latinos were demonstrating in front of Obama’s re-election HQ about that very thing today or yesterday. I was saying Obama would LIKE to grant them all amnesty. He has not. I absolutely grant you your point. You are quite correct about Obama expanding the Secure Communities program.
Folks, this was Perry’s first gaffe. Let’s see if it happens again. My bet is no. If he does it again, then he has shown he can’t learn a lesson….then that’s bad.
@Pokie, I counted three gaffes. 1. the fed 2. restoring honor to the military 3. Cant remember. I will think of it.
Even Karl Rove said he acted like a jerk. Holy cow! Now that is an indictment.
One “tough” simply talkin’ Texan as President was enough for me.
Mind-read much?
Obama said almost the same thing as Pokie regarding Perry’s comments. O said something like ‘he’s only been at this a short while’.
You two are on the same page 🙂
Were you speaking of LBJ or Bush or Daddy Bush, Elena?
At least Paul can articulate why he opposes the Fed, unlike this good-haired fool.
Funny how almost everyone has something decent to say about Ron Paul, even if his politics greatly differ from their own. He doesn’t try to put down or ridicule like the good haired fool for starters. I generally listen.
Yes, MH – sometimes and most time, what isn’t done is important to note!!
I think that Rick Perry has about six good speeches in him, we haven’t seen him interact with any real contender yet. That will be interesting.
For conservatives these days, an indictment by Rove is a plus in your arsenal. As you young ones sometimes put it: “Rove is soooo yesterday.”
When they start to call you names, you know you are on the move and having an impact.
@Wolverine, Rove might be yesterday but he is one smart dude. I wouldn’t bury him yet.
As for conservatives today….from my vantage point, Rove has a track record, they do not. I never thought I would be out there defending Rove. He did what I never thought possible and that was to get Bush re-elected to another term.
So what has changed?
Perry is one arrogant dud.
If he keeps it up, he’ll implode.
Meant to write “dude”, but what the heck, “dud” will do just as well 🙂
I would fix it for you but I like ‘dud’ better.
If Perry gets the nomination, that will make two arrogant dudes facing off.
Amen.
And let’s all not forget Perry’s little pray-in by decree of the Governor’s office a week or so ago…
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-people/rick-perry/perry-releases-proclamation-on-prayer-and-fasting/
His proclamation as Governor of Texas August 13 (?) was to be a statewide day of prayer and Texans are commanded to by their governor PRAY. Somehow the fact that a Presidential candidate doesn’t know what the Separation of Church and State means is an immediate disqulaifier, but hey – some people want the “Christian” version of Iran….