Now this is one smart dog. It isn’t as hot as it was in July but it is plenty warm out there.
Have we dodged the hurricane bullet?
To answer my own question–NO. See below
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My mother-in-law in Yorktown said the Great Dismal Swamp with its bogs have been on fire since early August, sending smoke everywhere. She said the only thing that’s going to drench the smoldering fires would be a tropical storm. Bad to wish for that kind of thing, but the smoke is hard for elderly and impaired breathers to deal with.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/DC-Swamp-Fire-Sends-Smoke-Across-Virginia-127317063.html
Just a suggestion, if you’re having a Long Island Iced Tea, please do not use THOSE ice cubes. Or if you have to, double items 1-4
1 part vodka
1 part tequila
1 part rum
1 part gin
1 part triple sec
1 1/2 parts sweet and sour mix
1 splash Coca-Cola® (Diet will work too)
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Too much dog hair or hair of the dog? @Bruce
Meanwhile, back in the City of Manassas, Jerry Carman has announced he is running for City Council in 2012…and aside from his webpage, have NO idea who he is.
http://jerrycarman2012.com/Home_Page.html
I looked at it Jerry Carman’s website. Why do local candidates tell us their stand on abortion? Do they plan to change the law in the City of Manassas or Prince William County?
For the record, I am not for abortion. It is legal but if it was reversed I wouldn’t lose sleep (ducking MH’s glare).
I agree. I actually don’t care about anyone’s personal stand on abortion. My person stand varies a great deal from my political stand.
So why do these men think we want or need to know their stand. Do they want to know how I feel about vasectomy? (early and often :mrgreen:)
Last time I looked at Roe, the local jurisdictions were not given any decision making powers on this deeply personal matter.
@Juturna
I think it get brought up for City council, since they are home to a clinic.
You NEED to contact me! MH might not be here, but I am. 👿
It looks like he’s running as an Independent? Did I get that right? I thinks it good he’s getting out there early. Since the city has elections in May, that candidates start when the rest of the area seems to be in “campaign/election” mode.
The anti abortion stuff is just code. Surely this dude is smart enough to know his position doesn’t really matter.
I fully expect someone to come along and slash my tires because I am public with my pro choice stance. I don’t put bumper stickers on now because some pig kept coming up in my yard in the dead of night and slicing the bumper stickers off. Wish I caught him or her. This was a while back before it got quite so militant.
The reality is, women who have even a little money will be able to get abortions. Poor women won’t. That is a reality some of the militant anti abortion folks really need to think about, especially during one of the ‘cut spending’ rants. Who will pay their fair share?
Okay – I’ll talk to the boss.
I met Jerry Carman and his family at the National Night Out Against Crime event in the Weems community earlier this month, and I talked to him again at the last Education Forward meeting at City Hall. He’s friendly and a good listener.
Weems is home to many who have served the city on council. Betcha can’t name five of them, Ray.
It doesn’t sound like Mr. Carman is all that familiar with school law. Let’s see, he proposes to isolate ELS students for a year and if they aren’t proficient then make the parents pay to educate them. Did I read that right?
How long would it take DOJ to come swooping in on that one? You existing City Council members ready to foot the bills for that one? Get those check books out because it is going to be costly.
Holy Cow!
Dy-NO-MITE!
No skin off Mr. Carman’s nose. His kids aren’t in public schools.
Cindy, I live on the “wrong” side of Weems area…LOL…you have the more active side. You got the side with a former and current Mayor, Xerk White, and if I recall right, our rep to PWC CSB.
Cindy, can you repost that aerial shot again please?
The aerial shot of the Grizzly football complex was published in the News & Messenger. You’d have to get the photo and permission from the photographer, Roger Snyder, RWS Aerial Photography, (703) 368-4021. I wish Roger would do a book of his photos, they are phenomenal at documenting the changes in this area.
Why do I need permission to look at the photograph? Hell, I don’t want to see it that badly. I thought it was in the News & Messenger.
I thought you had put up a link in the past. Did I dream that?
Ray, you’re right. Former residents of Weems also included two vice mayors (Payne and Harrover, if I’m not mistaken) and councilwoman Judy Hayes.
The aerial shot belongs to RWS Aerial Photography. You’d have to talk to Roger Snyder. His business is in the PW Chamber member directory online. His photography, documenting the phenomenal change in this area, is outstanding. He also took an aerial shot of the battle reenactment at Pageland Farm. I wish he would submit his work for a show at the Center for the Arts. Every time I see one of his photos it makes me think of O. Winston Link — an historian capturing our time and place in his unique bird’s eye perspective.
Plus, Former Mayor Doug Waldron lived in Weems during his term of office
and former Vice-Mayor Maury Gerson and Councilmember Col. Xerk White
still reside in the Weems area.
Weems has also provided numerous school board members and comm.
and board members to the city through the years. It has long been noted
as an active and civic minded neighborhood.
Moon, you need permission if you want to use the photo – it wasn’t published online in the News & Messenger. Sorry for the double post between computers. I thought I lost the first one.
Utility Commissioner Harry Bowman lived in Weems — I had a duh moment after realizing his son is our new Fire Chief. I understand at one time there was a civic association in Weems with hundreds of members back in the 1970s. We seem to live peacefully (and thankfully) without an HOA, but with a strong neighborhood watch.
Big Dog, you’re always pulling interesting history bits out of the archives of the Manassas newspapers – doesn’t the city turn 40 years old soon? Does the museum have any thoughts to document the last half of the 20th century with interviews and photos? People like Ron Knowles, another Weems resident, who have helped make this city what it is today?
And Ray, I am considered part of your Weems Community #1 though the Liberia River of Commuter Vehicles separates us and makes it seem like I’m in Weems Community #2.
Well, I knew I saw it somewhere. Now I cannot remember. Oh well. I will use my imagination. I don’t want to use it. I just wanted to see it.
Grizzly fields get no free press from this blog. I don’t approve of how they were gained. I don’t blame them…the grizzlies. They are just kids. I blame the politicians who used them.
There are plenty of pictures on FB of the Grizzly Sports Complex. I even saw a sign being held that read Surface Stadium. I don’t blame the kids either, but I do blame the politicians(insert usual suspects). I did ask the question on the other thread did we have any reports.
MH – using the county mapper enter 12217 Vint Hill Road. May not be the exact aerial you wanted but….
@Juturna
Thanks. If its free its for me.
It worked, sort of. Not sure which are the fields but I can see the lay of the land.
– The “party line” has its compensations. G.B. Faith, Nokesville,
called the J-M to order a classified ad “bull for sale”.
An hour later came another call to cancel.
Seems he sold the bull to a neighbor who heard him place
the ad on the “party line”.
– Winners at the PW Fair include Everett Kline for Hog Calling,
Carol Halsey for Cracker Eating, Tony Powell for Bubble Gum Blowing
and Greer Winthrop and Buddy Rhodes tied for first in the
Balloon Stampede.
– Dear Editor:
Our country is making a catastrophe turn to the left and if this
trend continues for another decade a man with a family will have
to earn around $20,000 a year in order for his family to have
the necessities of life.
Big government is being forced upon us and we are taxed to the
end of our endurance.
It is later than you you think!
John R. Clarke
(From the Manassas Journal-Messenger – 8-21-1958)
http://www.loudountimes.com/index.php/news/editorial/editorial_more_than_skin_deep/
Wow, sure glad we don’t have any people who judge people by race
or national origin in PWC and the two cities!
That really was an excellent editorial.
Yes, I am glad we don’t have people like THAT around these parts.
{sarcasm alert]
What a great comment in Loudoun Times!
Thanks for linking it.
Candidate Suzanne Miller has really shown both personal and political integrity on her facebook page, Citizens for Suzanne.
Ms. Miller defended her oponent Martha Hendley:
Miller also called for Candland to man up. Since when is stating a fact a negative attack?
Team Candland speaking publically about Elena with opinions based on untruths seems much more of a negative attack to me.
I also noticed that Mr. Candland is encouraging people to just walk in and vote on at the Office of Voter Registration on election day so they can get their vote counted first.
Mr. Candland might want to review voting rules. In order to do that, you have to certify that you meet the qualifications for voting ‘away from home.’
That office has to handle many special requests and help people with disabilities. Why add to their work load, especially when most people can just go to their regular polling place?
Cherry picking the Rule of Law?
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110821-704789.html
Good news for Verizon customers:
Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) and its unions each proclaimed triumph after hashing out an accord to send 45,000 employees back to work under a previous contract until a new one is negotiated, resetting nearly two months of negotiations and causing disappointment among some union members.
I chuckled when I saw the Verizon commercial of a family in a minivan driving and talking about how Verizon was taking away my benefits by making me pay for health insurance and her husband pointing out that in this economy that having a job was a blessing AND that employees at other companies were still paying more for healthcare than they we’re.. and how with a baby on the way they need health insurance.
Straight forward and to the point. Loved it.
@marin, I doubt that there are winners and losers in strikes. I didn’t follow the strike. I am a verison customer big time. Everytihing is Verizon and I own Verizon stock. However,, I am not celebrating. As I have said many times, I have mixed feelings about unions.
REbels enter Tripoli. I guess this is a “be careful what you wish for” moment. Political upheavel and unrest often have unintended circumstances.
Good and cautious thought, Moon. There was great rejoicing when Mobutu Sese Seko, long-time strongman of the Congo (Zaire), was finally removed from power. Didn’t turn out the way many had hoped. Moe still has Congo very much on the plate at the Crimes of War Project. Just the cast of characters has changed.
For whatever it’s worth, I’m in the Baldwin precinct. On the abortion stuff, we have people at almost every Council meeting asking us to do something about it. As others have mentioned, the authority of the Council where abortion is concerned is limited.
For my part, I don’t wonder so much why the abortion foes are speaking to Council, I wonder where everyone else is? Is nobody passionate about any other aspect of our City? Schools? Development? Economic Development? Anyone?
@AndyH
You bring up an excellent point about the other issues. I wish I had the answer. I wonder why more don’t speak at Citizens’ Time too. The county folks seems to address the BoS regularly for an array of reasons.
Is one of the most frequent speakers about abortion at council meetings, from the county? It doesn’t really matter, but I do think that’s an interesting aspect. I do appreciate that both the BoS and the CoM Council welcome residents to address them from the other jurisdiction.
@L: yes, the most frequent of the abortion opponents to speak is from the County. When we have a hot issue that’s mostly “moral” (KK’s, etc) a large percentage (but probably not a majority) appear to be from the county. As a council member it isn’t something I track closely but it does matter.
@AndyH
What an excellent point, Andy. So many people speak out on abortion. So many people vote based on abortion. So many things impact our daily lives so much more.
How this deeply divisive topic came to carry so much disproportionate weight is baffling.
There is little that any jurisdiction can do about abortion. Roe vs Wade is the law of the land. Somehow Rule of Law gets overlooked.
I vote for caring more about schools, crime, beautification, economic growth, and traffic flow. Nothing can ruin a day like poorly planned traffic patterns and traffic flow.
Public safety should be on every burner. No community is immune from issues there.
@AndyH
Its a good thing you have to listen to our zealots rather than your own.
You can always make the ‘guests’ wait until all city folks have spoken. If I lived in the city and wanted to talk about work trucks parking on my street and had to wait until all the county people finished whining about something you cannot change, I would be hot under the collar.
Are city council meetings televised normally?
Yes, you can watch them on Comcast or Verizon. You can watch them livestreaming on the city website media center. You can watch the parked videos of past council meetings in the media center and move the bar at the bottom to go to the segment you want to see.
Here’s the link to the Aug 8 council meeting.
http://www.manassascity.org/MediaCenter.aspx?VID=August-8%2c-2011-City-Council-Meeting-12
At 27 minutes in you can see the 3 minute slide show from the sesquicentennial events, put together by Old Town resident Jason Smith and photos by City resident Linda Hughes.
At 1 hour 30 minutes in, you can see the 6 min 1 By Youth video, followed by the neighborhood leaders talking about the effects of the community garden in Point of Woods. A 3-acre field that was once empty now has a memorial gazebo where a couple got married, outdoor movie nights each Friday, and a community garden. This weekend VCE Master Gardener Paul Gibson will be meeting with the residents to talk about winterizing their garden plots and planting for the fall season. What a great story the News & Messenger continues to miss.
Andy, if the city would engage citizens with better communication, you would see more folks attending and speaking at meetings. The Media Center is a fantastic leap — love it — but you have to get the word out that it’s even there. What happened to the PR consultant? The new communications plan?
@ Andy
If someone is killed in Georgetown South, people speak at citizens time. If Fernadez puts up a sign, people show up. Anything else, ” I’m too busy”. The abortion folks have an agenda and they are not going away.
I hope everyone gets out to vote tommorow.
@Cindy B
Cindy, if you and Andy do an article about the City media center I will feature it for you. I think everyone should know.
I think its even more important for the City to do this. You all are compact and you (hold your ears, Big Dog) also include us. We don’t pay much attention to boundaries.
Andy and Cindy, are the city meetings regularly televised in the county on fios and comcast live?
I am not sure if I even get city channels since I am in the county. I think I saw one of them but now I can’t remember.
Watching now.
I could sure do without invocations before public meetings. Do any jurisdictions NOT have invocations?
What’s going on with the Mathis Avenue 7-11? Is it being used as a day worker site? That used to be a serious problem when I was going over there. I used to always go to Sheetz to avoid it. There was never any of that going on over at Sheetz.
@Cindy: we’re going to have to agree to disagree. About the only thing I haven’t done to engage citizens is offer to come to their homes on an individual basis. I’ve got a full-time job and a life to lead, there really isn’t much more time in the day for this stuff. We also don’t have the staff to run some sort of prolonged community outreach program. We’re a small city and, past some point, those who are in the room are those who are going to be heard.
I’m sure we’ll discuss adding a full-time communications person this fall but judging from the absolute brawl we had to add 4 police officers, I don’t hold out much hope it will happen.
@AndyH
What is it they say about leading horses to water?
Abortion, shootings, and adult shops stir up our passions or something. They get the blood pumping. Those other less “glamorous” topics, not so much.
Maybe your volunteers could do communications.
What ever happened about that much needed f
irebrick?should be firetruck.
Oh, buddy!!! I remember a time not long ago when folks would be screaming “Racist!!” as loud as they could over that little line. Moon, they are only here trying to make a better life for themselves, doing the jobs Americans won’t do!
I didn’t call out anyone but day workers. Last time I checked day workers came in all colors. I don’t go places where day workers are congregating. They might be trying to make a better life for themselves. I am sure they are. I am trying to make a more pleasant 7-11 trip for myself so I go to Sheetz who doesn’t allow loitering by anyone. They call the cops on people faster than greased lightning if they hang out.
I don’t mind day worker sites even. I just don’t want the in front of stores or libraries, etc where normal egress is disrupted.
Ladies and Gents. You want a good indicator of the right candidate? Trial Lawyers (that group I like to refer to as the “scum of the Earth”) are mobilizing a PAC to go after Perry. Take a quick think to yourself about how many situations in life end up with lawyers running away with everyone’s money, leaving no winners or losers (your average divorce is a good place to start). If trial lawyers hate Perry, I suddenly like him. And full disclosure, I’ve never had to deal with a lawyer in my life, but I can see what joy they always bring to all the lives they touch.
firebrick?
Where is Cargo? Did he make it back from his sojourn to the south? He probably got eaten by a shark.
@AndyH
Thats what happens when vintage women try to use droid cell phones. I could have sworn I typed fireTRUCK.
I was wondering what YOU were talking about firebricks.
Well,, it looked like FIRETRUCK to me.
Andy/Big Dog/Cindy, did any citizens come out to speak about the “serial flasher” in Wellington? Seems as though he’s kept his flashing in the city limits.
I had to ask given Andy’s early question. I would think people would not want this going on for any period of time. Especially while kids are home and not in school.
http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/aug/22/4/fondling-man-strikes-again-ar-1254881/?referer=http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Fr5ZQ9l&h=TAQAdowpIAQAbJTsrPjbSg_UoF8091UuC94lLmTM1b9hUdQ&shorturl=http://bit.ly/r5ZQ9l
@Laf
Why aren’t people walking/running with cell phones since they know they have a willie wacker in the hood?
You know that my daughter has had 2 of them locked up. She started thinking she had a perv magnet on her forehead. She nailed 2 of them in a year. She memorized their faces. Then cops brought her books and she nailed them on both occassions.
@Moon-howler
Especially if they could take a snapshot with their phones and call the police asap!!
Good for your daughter. I can’t say what I would do if someone flashed me. I think I would laugh and then get out the handy dandy cell phone. I don’t forget a face. Where those incidents in the county, city or both?
Both cases the county, about 6 months apart. One of them had been quite a problem.
We haven’t received the fleet plan from the fire and rescue folks as of yet.
What is a fleet plan?
@AndyH
LOL! There has been only two Council sessions so far I have not spoken at: one back in March when I was out of town, and the other where Big Dog thought I must be ill and checked my forehead for a temp!
But your right, it is an uphill battle for getting folks to speak. In the neighborhood, when we gather outside and shoot the breeze, and somebody complains, I say “take it to Council”. Nada, nothing. Hard to fight the attitude the Council will do whatever it wants. I remind them I asked for six police in January, Council budgeted four – I think that is pretty good advocacy from a citizen!
@Lafayette
Serial flasher? Interesting term considering it is only the second time. But being 5′ 10″ tall, think I better give up wearing khaki???? 🙂
Just so folks know, that is a target by MCPD. Chief Keene has done several reports to the Council during his time saying the who/what/where/when. Active policing of loiters it is!
The day labor gathering only happens when it is allowed by the store owner.