Orionids tonight.  It is getting darn cold out there.  Is everyone getting ready for Halloween?

We are on the look out for those stealing political signs.  Sign stealing is the outward manefestation of how low political campaigning can go. 

102 Thoughts to “Open Thread…………………………………..Friday, October 21”

  1. Cargosquid

    Ouch?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=hxWpd0Vl7pc

    Now…just throw some artificial intelligence into it and…wait…never mind.

    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=17654421

  2. Obviously guy humor.

    Woman alert: crushed truck. Male humor.

  3. SlowpokeRodriguez

    Kudos to Obama to getting out of Iraq. He’s going to have more support for that than typical Republicans are going to admit to.

  4. George S. Harris

    @Cargosquid
    Is the turck thing supposed to be funny or just stupid?

  5. George S. Harris

    @SlowpokeRodriguez
    Now, if we can have the same sort of ephiphany about Afghanistan or do we have to wait until 3,000 more Americans are killed?

    Not everyone is coming home–there will still be some “liason” personnel and embassy guards. But at least most are coming home. The question remaining is, “What will we do with those folks?” The services have been drawing down,which is adding to the unemployed pool.

    I agree, this is a coup for President Obama–now there is one less thing for Re/Teapublicans to complain about. But employing all thes former service pesonnel may give them a new argument.

  6. George S. Harris

    Supposed to be “truck”.

  7. It might have been a turck. Something was sure wrong with it.

    !pokie, I agree.

    George brings up that thing which none of us want to talk about. Where will they go and what will they do. J-O-B-S.

  8. SlowpokeRodriguez

    Osama is gone…..time to finish up in Afghanistan.

  9. Second Alamo

    http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

    Um, isn’t this the hospital listed on Obama’s 1961 record of natural birth (or whatever it’s called)? Note the present hospital name wasn’t created until 1978. Interesting!

  10. Emma

    I was glad to hear the news, too. I just hope the troops aren’t then shunted off to Uganda or some other flavor-of-the-month that sparks our moral outrage while the Chinese buy our silence with their credit card.@SlowpokeRodriguez

  11. ACTS in Dumfries has collected $60,000 and 12,000 pounds of food in three days, allowing the pantry to reopen next week.

    This is good news.

  12. SA–don’t even think about starting birther stuff here. tin foil hats are not welcome.

  13. Cargosquid

    It was posted because I find it amazing that it was on the road. I think it was filmed in Russia. Here…that would have been towed. and scrapped.

  14. It was guy interest for sure, but that’s fine, Cargo. Women generally just roll their eyes.

  15. Morris Davis

    @Emma

    I certainly agree that getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan are good steps. If you look at the missions in both wars — eliminating Iraq’s WMD program (okay, there wasn’t one, but it was still part of the original mission) and removing Saddam Hussein and eliminating Osama bin Laden and disrupting his al Qaeda terror network’s base along the AF-Pak border — we accomplished our military objectives … and then we changed over to nation building, which we could keep doing until the cows come home. I also share your concern about where else we may get involved and why. I don’t agree that China buys our silence. We are the ones that go to them hat-in-hand because we have decided we want a very small segment of our population to go off and fight wars while the rest of us refuse to pay for it. I don’t fault China on this count.

  16. Emma

    @Morris Davis I don’t fault China on that count, either. I fault America’s selective outrage at human rights violations.

    1. If I started getting outraged at other countries over human rights violations, I could continue to go around the world and would never sleep.

  17. Big Dog

    Remember the year in the early 1990’s when the Manassas City
    “seemed like a good idea at the time” Council voted to
    move the celebration/trick-or-treating from a school night to a
    Sat. evening. It was chaos with numerous savy
    goblins on the streets for both nights and many people
    handing out twice as many goodies over two nights.

    To quote the Raven – “Nevermore”.

    1. I remember that Halloween as a double dipper, Big Dog.

  18. Emma

    @Big Dog I remember that well. My kids were all small at the time. It was kind of funny that the City tried to legislate when people could hand candy out to visiting children.

  19. Cargosquid

    http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2011/10/another-99-percenter.html

    I don’t care who ya are…that there’s funny raht there.

  20. Need to Know

    Kids are looking forward to Halloween. They’ve already been trying on their costumes. Their first year, they wanted to trick or treat again in November after eating all the candy. They’re still young enough to go, but now understand how it works.

  21. Need to Know

    By the way, where’s Cato been lately? I’m interested in his view of the declining pessimism regarding a double-dip recession (fewer people thinking it will happen). I’m still in the camp expecting sluggish growth but no recession.

  22. George S. Harris

    @Second Alamo
    When are you people gonna get over this thing about whether President Obama is a citizen or not? The “hospital” where I was born (my grandparents’ home” is no longer there. Does this mean I was never born or am not a citizen? The hospital where three of my children were born no longer exists–does that mean they are unborn or not citizens? Get a fuc*ing grip. You want to worry about something? Worry about all the service people coming home to no jobs. Worry about the tens of thousands of veterans who are having trouble getting proper care. But, at least for now, don’t worry about the world ending, that was supposed to happen yesterday.

  23. Big Dog

    http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/calculatorintro.htm

    – The average cost of raising a child 1 through 18 is now $226,920
    (doesn’t include college). A 40% increase in the last ten years.

    – Half of American workers now make less than $28,000 a year.

    – Do the math.

    1. This probably isn’t a real good time to have kids. I nearly flipped out dead over child care being $18k.

  24. Cargosquid

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/health/research/13alzheimers.html?_r=1

    Since my family has had experience with both, thought I’d point out this article.

    Insulin may delay early onset Alzheimers.

    1. Thanks for sharing that bit of good news, Cargo. I know several people who will be glad to hear it.

    1. I am not sure I get it but if she isn’t a multimillionaire, then she is one of the 99% for sure, as am I.

  25. Cargosquid

    She’s Agent 99 from the Get Smart show…..

    And you can tell that its a gun blog, most of the comments discuss what type of gun she’s holding….

  26. Cargosquid

    Time to decriminalize marijuana? How about just the plants, if not the possession of “processed” Mary Jane?

    http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/press_release.asp?article_id=976

    “The Rutherford Institute is defending a Virginia man charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession after a SWAT team, aided by military helicopter surveillance and acting without a search warrant, allegedly found two marijuana stalks growing among weeds on his 39-acre property.”

    SWAT and a helo….for two pot plants….. How many extra cops could we hire on that money alone….

    1. That happened to my parents when they were in their 70’s. The cops didnt get them but the electric company did. I think they reported it and my parents weren’t in trouble. That’s pretty smart of kids to just go plant it on old folk’s property. Was that Albemarle Co. cops, State or DEA who made that raid?

      The big thing now is hydroponic which is why the interest in the green house. Maybe if the state taps in to the VRS again I will be forced to become a gardner. Ah, who is reading this……where is that swat team?n [looking around]

      That poor guy is going to be let off. I hope he sues their pants off. He probably needs a little help caring for his mother anyway.

  27. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    Nice to see Chuckles Colgan back with his retarded “Rocky” commercial. It’s extra funny this time because it looks like he could keel over any second in the spot.

  28. punchak

    @George S. Harris
    Sending love your way!!!

  29. punchak

    @Cargosquid

    Loved that “Get Smart” show. Agent 99. Phone in a shoe!

  30. Margene is back!!!!! She is Snow White on Once Upon A Time on ABC right now.

  31. Morris Davis

    In November 2000, two months before Bush took office, economists in the Clinton administration drafted a report entitled “Life After Debt” that looked at what might happen when the entire federal debt was paid off and how it might impact the global economy when suddenly benchmark U.S. T-Bills simply ceased to exist because there was no longer any debt to finance. The report projected the entire federal debt would be eliminated not later than 2012. Instead of having to worry about the consequences of life after all U.S. debt ceased to exist, by November 2008, two month before Bush left office, we were in the midst of a financial meltdown and TARP and the question was whether skyrocketing federal debt had ended the American dream. What changed between November 2000 and November 2008 that completely flipped our financial outlook? Miss him yet?

    http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/10/20/LifeAfterDebt.pdf

  32. Cargosquid

    @Morris Davis
    So, doing more of the same is an improvement?

    1. Moe would probably not want to bring Bush back. I think I can speak for him that much.

  33. Cargosquid

    @Moon-howler
    I don’t want him back either….but I do feel that he would be an improvement.

    Your mileage may vary.

  34. Cargosquid

    Don’t know if this was covered by the news up there so:
    http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/newsdesk/2011/10/23/spotsylvania-sheriffs-detective-pursuing-tips-on-attempted-abduction/

    Attempted kidnaps of young girls in Spotsylvania.

    Keep an eye out.

  35. The new Steve Jobs book came out at midnight.

    I got mines.

    Unfortunately I can’t watch TV while I read.

  36. @Cargo,

    Holy cow. I was up in the middle of the night finishing up the Steve Job’s post and looked up at my TV. I had Faux News on and there was Geraldo, down in Z park talking to some ow(l)s–Cargo, one of your people stumbled in there by mistake. There was someone in 18th century dress and a 3 cornered hat.

    This is serious. You all need to send a search and rescue for that guy.

  37. Cargosquid

    @Moon-howler
    Nah. The Tea Party believes in personal responsibility. If he went down there looking to recruit the sane people, then its his fault if he gets stuck. I applaud his courage and question his judgment.

    1. I expect lots of those people demonstrating around the country believe in peresonal responsibility also. It is because you have closed your mind that you haven’t seen beyond the freak show part of this. Once you get past the camera attractions, some pretty interesting things are being said. it takes some digging to get there though.

  38. Starryflights

    Robert J. Samuelson
    Opinion Writer
    Where are the Clinton and Bush apologies for our budget crisis?

    As for Bush, he made a bad situation worse. His tax cuts, especially those of 2003, went overboard. His Medicare drug benefit, passed by Congress in 2003, was a shameless effort to buy support of the elderly in the 2004 election. Though costing less than expected, it’s still expensive: $269 billion from 2006 to 2010. His effort at Social Security “reform” was doomed from the start, because it included personal investment accounts that were bound to arouse ferocious opposition.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/where-are-the-clinton-and-bush-apologies-for-our-budget-crisis/2011/10/21/gIQAuv7eAM_story.html?hpid=z2

    George W. Bush is personally responsible for our nation’s public debt.

  39. Morris Davis

    @Starryflights

    It’s interesting that he totally ignores the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. According to a report in March by the Congressional Research Service, as of that point in time some eight months ago Congress had approved $1.283 trillion in spending related to our post-9/11 military and diplomatic GWOT efforts in OIF, OEF and ONE. [Recognizing the risk of doing math in public, I believe that’s about $4,275 for every man, woman and child in America]. Rather than asking Americans for some shared sacrifice to cover the tab, we cut taxes (which stimulates donors … I mean “job creators”) and started the debt climbing upwards like an F-16 at an airshow.

  40. Cargosquid

    Of course, the 1st stimulus bill’s cost was greater than Bush’s cost of both wars. Furthermore, was that 1.283 trillion for the theaters or for the military budget total? Also, was that cost over the total length of the war? Because that would be….math in public again….about 130 billion per year…..

    What was the cost of the unfunded stimulus again? The failed unfunded stimulus… 814 billion dollars.

    But, if you want to look at the total cost, with the continuing rise of costs….its 3.27 trillion.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2009/02/12/true-cost-of-stimulus-327-trillion/

    But again…all of this finger pointing is useless. You won’t believe my interpretations and I will suspect yours.

    The point is…..how is accelerating spending supposed to improve or fix your complaint of Bush’s spending?

    Oh, and GWB did not approve the last trillion dollar budget by Congress. THEY did not submit it until Obama took office. April 2009.

    And what do you considered “shared sacrifice”? Higher taxes? Or only higher taxes on certain people? Remember….Congress sets policy while the President signs it. Where was the Democratic Congress’s efforts to create that shared sacrifice when they took office?

    What’s the point of listing Bush’s supposed costs yet ignoring the current spendthrifts?

    Was Bush “spendy?” Yes. Did he create expensive programs? Yes. Did his tax cuts help the economy? Yes.

    Now, tell me how Obama has improved the situation. How has all of HIS spending improved the outlook for the nation? What exactly has improved with all of this spending?

    1. If I had a garage, I would definitely love to have those wolves on it.

  41. Morris Davis

    There is a connection between your comment in #52 about the Bush tax cuts helping the economy and your comment in #33 about decriminalizing marijuana: someone would have to be buzzed into full-scale “stupid” stage (hence the phrase, “it’s the economy, stupid”) to be able to see how Bush’s tax breaks helped the economy (unless by “help” you mean help it on over the edge and into a recession). Of course doing #33 would stimulate the “job creators” in the pizza delivery business.

  42. Cargosquid

    So the economy sucked prior to 2008? 4.5 -5% unemployment was bad?

  43. Pat.Herve

    cargo – yes, the economy sucked – some just did not know it then. It was running on and fueled by steroids (too much free cash flow, lowering of lending standards). We are now getting over the drunken spending spree, and dealing with our hangover.

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