Immigration reform continues to be a goal that lies just out of reach. It’s difficult for young people to understand that President Obama wants the change as much as the next guy.
Pretty much like everything else, Comprehensive Immigration Reform is stuck in the House, circling the drain.
Remember how important this once was here in PWC? I understand this heckler’s frustration.
Staged.
” Yesterday’s heckler at Obama’s pro-amnesty speech in San Francisco was Ju Hong, an approved guest of the White House and an illegal alien from South Korea who recently graduated from UC Berkeley. People who still say illegal aliens “live in the shadows” obviously don’t know this guy: He’s on Twitter and LinkedIn, was a member of student government, has lobbied for taxpayer subsidies for illegal-alien students, and has been the subject of so much fawning news coverage he has his own topic page at the Cal student paper.”
The salient fact here for immigration policy is that he came with his family on a tourist visa, and never left.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/364893/holding-foreign-visitors-their-promises-mark-krikorian
NO duh. Over half of the illegal immigrants in this country are here because they over-stay their visas.
Many illegal immigrants do live in the shadows in very segregated communities. Again. doh!
Do you think that article might be somewhat biased? Ya think? Do you ever read anything that just delivers facts without strongly leaning opinion? You never post those types of articles here.
Is that the fear of the “lame-stream media?” Do you all fear actually getting raw facts that you might have to process on your own?
Actually, other than the nativist point of view, nothing few in that article.
Oh, it wasn’t a staged event. That is a lie.
@Moon-howler
Do you ever read anything that might offer a different take on the administration’s actions?
Do you ever read anything that is critical of the propaganda being put out by the administration?
Of course I present facts from other sources. The cheerleaders for Obama wouldn’t print anything critical of their hero.
Raw facts? You mean, like the FACT that the “heckler” was INVITED by the White House? THAT is the staged event. That is the key part of the article.
The other salient point is that illegal immigrants, per this man’s life, have no fear of deportation. The administration invited this high profile activist who is here illegally. He is in the spot light and STILL has not been detained and deported.
I could also invite a Thanksgiving guest who barfed at the dinner table. I invited that person to dinner, not to barf on the table.
Your logic escapes me.
I read articles daily that aren’t “pro-Obama.” Thank you for asking.
“Critical of progoganda” assumes propaganda as well as being biased by definition. Now if I publish something from whitehouse.gov, expect it to be pro-Obama. Any place else, the jury is out.
Immigrants most certainly are in danger of deportation. Right now some of us are working diligently to try to keep a friend from being deported. Would you like to sign the petition that would keep our friend here? He is married to a blog contributor. They have been married over a decade and have a child. Still want to debate that one?
The activist was also a student. If you recall, students were exempted from deportation by executive order. The interruption was not staged.
By the way…National Review is considered part of the “mainstream” media.
By whom?
Moon, Cargo forgot to add to his comment: “By the way…National Review is considered part of the “mainstream” media [by conservatives]” 😉
@George S. Harris
LOL.
@Moon-howler
It is a major publication. If Time is considered “mainstream” then so is National Review.
A magazine that says it caters to a particular segment of the political spectrum? Granted it comes across better than Brietbart but geez….
Cargo, no offense but I think your idea of what is mainstream might be a little skewed.
I’ll even give you meainstream – <----note the minus sign.
Its about as mainstream as Mother Jones. I think that is a fair comparison.
It amazes me how disrespectful this protester is to the President and America in general. How dare this (uninvited) guest make demands that we circumvent our own political process because it isn’t moving fast enough for him.
Perhaps he should be sent back to whatever his homeland is and can try heckling the leaders there.
(I’m not saying deport everyone who is here illegally. Just this one guy because he’s a rude ingrate.)
I thought he was extremely rude also. I would have started the deportation process with him just because he was a little rude SOB. It amazes me how rude people are to the president anyway, just less this guy.
I never saw his face. Had I been there I would have been tempted to smack it, just for the affrontery. I feel about this the same way I did about the dude who threw the shoe at President Bush.
@Moon-howler
I consider Mother Jones to be mainstream.
@Furby McPhee
He was invited.
Cargo, I don’t think you get to stand behind the president of the United States, regardless of who it is, without being invited, now do you?
That does not mean that anyone knew he was going to be so rude. He might have been invited out of the crowd. I don’t think he was invited to be an A-hole.
Why is Everything a conspiracy with you?
Does Obama really want “the change”? Or does he want to keep the issue alive and keep tweaking at people, keeping the issue in the news? I remember various comments consistent with the latter made by David Axelrod 4-5 years ago, that this issue is extremely valuable to Democratic political strategists.
The Republicans don’t really want to outlaw abortion – but exploit a certain segment of our population by pretending to. Is this what the Democrats are doing here?
Note that the “grand compromise” that was being worked on this year, that couldn’t move forward, was much more conservative than anything a Democrat would be comfortable marketing to a liberal base. The issue is nowhere near consensus. It’s just a political talking point. I think that Obama and Axelrod’s political calculus is correct; there’ll be no “comprehensive reform” anytime soon, and the issue will be in play through several election cycles.
It’s already been playing for decades. You would think someone would get tired of hearing it and just get in there and fix it.
It would save the country lots of money to fix the system. There is the incentive.
As for getting rid of abortion, I tend to feel people and institutions are disingenuous if they want to not allow contraception. Opposing contraception and abortion seems to be somewhat counter-intuitive.
“It would save the country lots of money to fix the system. ”
Depends on what you mean by “fix”. A liberal solution where illegal immigrants become legal enough to become eligible for welfare would be extremely expensive – and the death of our current safety net.
Boy, Moon-howler and I are agreeing on all kinds of things these days. I must be reading The Guardian too much 🙂
When I said he was an (uninvited) guest, I meant he was an uninvited guest in the country. As in, he has no legal right to be here in the first place, how dare the little jerk act like this to our President. I might not like everything (or even much) that Obama does, but he is still our President and deserves respect for that. Especially from a foreign national.
I am probably very liberal about children of undocumented immigrants. I want that little smart ass deported just because of the affrontery he showed by heckling the president.
I thought we opposed their presence for taking jobs away from Americans. Make up your mind, stupid
From what I’ve seen, the “liberal” solution is to allow a path to citizenship. The system now is untenable, by everyone’s reckoning. That path would also lead to paying Federal and SSI taxes, which by some estimates would be a big help in balancing the budget.
The issue is nowhere near consensus because the tea party kills any attempt at compromise. If you remember, there was a lot of talk about moving this issue after the drubbing the GOP got in the last election by Hispanics, but the extremists put the kabosh on that, just like the NRA did on gun control.
It takes a lot of torque to twist those facts into an attempt by Democrats to keep the issue alive. In less than 20 years, this issue will take care of itself, but will there even be a Republican Party by then if they keep this up?
My concern is not over citizenship. My concern is over those kids who seem to be in no-man’s land. My concern is over my friends whose family might be ripped apart because the American mother and child do not want to go live in Central America with the husband/dad who cannot get his status adjusted. Why not? He is married to an American woman. My concern is for those immigrants who came illegally or didn’t go home legally but who have lived and worked here for many years and have been good ‘citizens.’