Supposedly America is where dreams come true if you work hard. Listen to the words of the Brooks and Dunn song, Only in America.
Sun coming up over New York City
School bus driver in a traffic jam
Starin’ at the faces in her rearview mirror
Looking at the promise of the Promised Land
One kid dreams of fame and fortune
One kid helps pay the rent
One could end up going to prison
One just might be president.
It is true or is it all BS? Perhaps that is what some of us are afraid of…that an “other” could grow up to be President.
I think it is probably time to start looking at the facts and remembering that these are children. President Obama said last night that they would all go back. There is something sad about that. I would foster a child trying to escape violence. Who else would?
When did he say they would all go back? I think he’s leaning the other way. He’s certainly not got an ounce of spine on the issue, he’s a deer in headlights.
At least he had a nice round of golf today – http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_GOLF?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-26-14-59-01
Okay, I see the story – http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/us-usa-immigration-obama-idUSKBN0FU1ST20140725
My interpretation of his delaying and obfuscating – he is hoping that the flow inward will somehow stop and then he will work to let many of the latest batch stay here or be released for imaginary hearings. He’s stalling and waiting hoping that somehow a different world materializes in front of him than the one he lives in. The one that his policies have helped to create.
My opinion … he really is an abject boob. Two dud Presidents in a row.
Out in the real world, his desire to provoke and push the envelope on this issue has killed the existing concept of “immigration reform” – no one can make any reasonable argument that the border is secure, or that lenient policies don’t encourage further waves of immigration. He’s boned this issue up, from the standpoint of his ostensible goals.
I believe you are speculating. The laws are in place for what needs to be done. It is a process. Not an event.
As long as these kids get deported for the most part, it does not bother me if they spend a few weeks or months in humane and safe detention centers. The longer the process is drawn out, the more it sends a message that illegal immigration to the US is no open door policy.
But I would think it would bother you that Obama is hemming and hawing while the kids are detained. That he actually hasn’t yet figured out what he wants to do.
I believe that the message is pretty clear. How on earth would he know what he was going to do right off the bat? Situations change. I really haven’t seen that much hemming and hawing. I want the next president we elect to be a visionary with an instant eye for problem solving. I don’t even want this person to have to consult advisors. That might be seen as being wishy washy.
The way Obama so nakedly has played politics on this issue (even to the point of letting kids sit in camps while he plays golf and refuses to visit the detention centers) is, to me, amoral to a degree I don’t recall seeing from a President.
What possible good would it do for the president (regardless of whom) to visit a detention camp? The security involved out far out-cost any good gathered from a photo-op.
You all waste so much energy hating Obama. Seriously. I never hated Bush that much even when the object of my dislike was really Dick Cheney.
Again I’m staggered at the way GWB gets bashed when a hurricane hits a city, while BHO can self-create a crisis through irresponsible policy, then refuse to react, and the left half of this country hardly bats an eye.
I am staggered how many people overlook the fact that BHO wasn’t even in office when the financial crash hit. Nor was he in office when the first huge stimulous bill was passed.
I am trying to figure out what irresponsible policy you are even talking about. Hurricane Sandy? Are we blaming that on Obama?
For the record, I certainly didn’t blame Bush for Katrina. I also didn’t trash mouth him because he was fund-raising in California (I think) rather than disturbing the recue efforts in NO.
On June 28
Obama to ask for more than $2 billion in emergency funds to stem immigration
June 28
The Obama administration, in a dramatic escalation of its border-control strategy, will seek
more than $2 billion in emergency funds to help stem an influx of Central American women and children entering the country illegally, as well as new measures to more quickly deport those already here, the White House confirmed Saturday.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-ask-for-2-billion-in-emergency-funds-to-stem-immigration-influx/2014/06/28/f532babe-ff2e-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html?hpid=z1
I heard him say that all the kids who were already here would be deported on TV this past weekend.
@Starryflights
He may be asking for more money…but I’ll believe it when I see it happening. He tends to be inaccurate in his statements.
Obama isn’t really to blame here. His base voters were corrupt and vicious enough to elect him, twice. He’s simply doing what they want him to do.
@Cato the Elder
If you want a President to be held accountable by the media….elect a Republican.
For the record Moon, I dislike Bush more than Obama. I tend to agree with Obama on economic policy and most social issues. But in terms of the raw person, I think they’re more or less the same guy. Coasted through life based on personal charm rather than demonstrated capability; both relatively unfit and reckless in governance.
Bush has his stem cells to protect, Obama his global warming fight … they’re both tools really when you get down to it. We haven’t had a real grown-up in the White House for about 14 years.
I think Clinton is very intelligent but I also think he got along on personal charm. Daddy Bush did also. People I know who knew him said he was one of the most decent, down to earth guys and he always stayed in touch with the common man. He used to meet with mid level management all the time when he was heading up the CIA.
Reagan? same. Personal charm. Nixon? Not so much. I don’t think any of them could get elected without personal charm nowadays. People now need personal media charm. Al Gore? Romney? Not so much.
Cargo, that is a funny joke. However, the age of leftist media bias is over … plenty of people watch FOX News as their primary source and as much propoganda from the right as the left makes it out there into hearts and minds.
Left-wing media bias is a red herring that is used as an excuse for the right-wing bias and lack of clear thinking.
As I listened to Faux News over the weekend, I was pretty much amazed at the garbage they feed people. I think a month of that garbage and people simply wouldn’t be able to think for themselves. I had forgotten how awful it was.
@Rick Bentley
Riiiight…
Because FOX outweighs all the other media combined….
Fox outweighs all the other media in what way? Outrageousness and incorrect information? It also has more dumb asses watching it and getting dumber with each pixel and soundwave.
@Moon-howler
I was being sarcastic.
FOX doesn’t outweigh them…..
Between FOX News, talk radio, and internet sites (and aggregate sites) that lean right, plenty of Americans get news biased to the right.
We’re not living 20 years ago when TV news was the main source people used to stay informed. Most people (and particularly most “swing voters”) get their news off the internet – would you claim that the Internet is biased leftward?
Not, the internet is not biased left at all.
How about news just coming in raw…without commentary. Sort of pre 90’s news.
I can remember left leaning mags and right leaning mags…same with newspapers.
Yeah. In ST. Louis when I grew up there were two newspapers, one slanted each way. My Dad got the right-wing paper, and that was the prism I saw the world through.
Ugh. Around here left came out in the morning and right came out in the afternoon. Home delivered.
In Charlottesville it was the opposite. The conservative Richmond Times Dispatch came out in the morning and the Daily Progress …well who knows what that was. I would say moderate. A little University influence always liberals things up. We all called it the Daily Regress but that’s kids for you. When you are in high school you know everything.
Best. Comment. Ever.
Oh PUH-LEEZ
Held accountable like Reagan, who was given a pass by the “leftist media” for Iran-Contra, or Bush, who was given a pass for torture, for lying to the country on WMD in Iraq, for no viable war plan for Iraq, or even Nixon, who would have gotten away with Watergate if a security guard didn’t notice a piece of tape on a door and an idiot President didn’t tape himself subverting the Constitution.
Or is it the “leftist media” that didn’t report on the daily embarrassment of Ken Starr’s 3-ring sex-show impeachment trial, or the Clinton “Travelgate,” or the Clinton “Whitewater,” or the Vince Foster “Murdergate?” I seem to remember reporting on all those so-called scandals in the “lamestream” media.
Middleman, you and I seem to share the same memories.