january

Happy New Year!  So far, we haven’t seen any of the white stuff.  Good.  Our heating bills are lower and kids are in school.  There are fewer pot holes, unless of course you are out at Silver Lake.

Still–a winter without snow?  We haven’t even had  much weather below freezing.  Is this El Nino or something more sinister?

New Years Resolutions?  I have given up.  I am going to keep going to the gym a couple times a week.  I will keep communicating with my friends and I will play with my new toys.  I got an Echo and I bought myself a new Mac.  Life is good.   Downton Abby is about ready to start.  February brings Game of Cards.

Just doing my part to ignore the election.

151 Thoughts to “Open Thread……………………………………January 1”

  1. punchak

    Happy New Year to us all! We do need a, if not happy,
    at least, a good New Year.
    Only 11 months ’til election.

    Had a great evening / dancedwith an Irishman. 🙂

  2. punchak

    Happy New Year to us all! We do need, if not a happy,
    at least, a good New Year.
    Only 11 months ’til election.

    Had a great evening / danced with an Irishman. 🙂

    1. You sly devil!!! I sat around the campfire on my deck. I wish I had danced with an Irishman.

  3. Wolve

    That must have been some Irishman! Punchak said it twice!

    The best for everyone for the New Year. And that includes Mr. Howler.

  4. Wolve

    The old portfolio took a serious hit in the last half of 2015. Let us hope that 2016 is better in that regard.

    1. Mine took a hit but not a serious hit. I had good and bad. Apple was disappointing. I might have to do some rearranging. I used some of the laggards to offset the stuff I had sold earlier in the year.

      Supposedly its the overseas economy making American investors jumpy. Supposedly.

  5. Pat.Herve

    Happy New Year to all. Health and Good Luck wishes to all.

  6. Starry flights

    Happy New Year!

  7. Scout

    Best wishes to all. Changes in work situation mean that I will be engaging less with you all, at least in first half of 2016. However, I hope everyone has a great year and that I can get back into the swing of things later on.

  8. Moon Howler

    Technical difficulties on 2 old computers and a new Mac have prevented me from posting new stuff.

    Please be patient….to make up for what I am lacking.

    AAARRGGGHHHHHH

    Moon-howler is on vacation. not even sure who will show up on here.

  9. The real Moon-Howler has returned.

    Happy New Year.

    I am now working in Windows 10, linux and OS X. Color me confused.

  10. Wolve

    @Moon-howler

    Did “Dog Breath” come to the rescue?

    1. Yes and no. Dog Breath resusitated one of the computers and installed linux on it.

      I wasn’t without a computer. I got a new MaC. But my password was stuck in limbo because the second older PC died the next day. Same issue. Geek Squad said the hardware was fine. It must have been a really bad update on older equipment.

      Dog Breath put in a lot of time on the equipment, that’s for sure. I am most appreciative.

  11. nateX

    Here’s another GOP’er that’s totally not being racist. Maine governor Paul LePage:

    “These aren’t the people who take drugs,” LePage said, in comments first picked up by the Portland Press Herald. “These are guys with the name D-Money, Smoothie, Shifty. These type of guys. They come from Connecticut and New York, they come up here, they sell their heroin, then they go back home. Incidentally, half the time they impregnate a young, white girl before they leave, which is a real sad thing because then we have another issue we’ve got to deal with down the road.”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/politics/paul-lepage-maine-heroin/

    The GOP normally uses dog whistles for their racist appeals. This guy is using a dog bullhorn.

    Clinton has condemned LePage’s comments as “racist rants” Good for her! How long before we hear any GOP’er condemn him? Trump will probably put him in charge of building The Wall.

    I gotta hand it to LePage though, he’s so out of touch he even sucks at being a racist. D-Money? Smoothie? Shifty? He needs to watch something written after 1960.

    1. Dog bullshorn! How funny. That’s a good one.

      I agree. The comment was unacceptable. Here is my question though. How is this statement really different from what it would have been 50 years ago when those same names would have been Vito, Lucky, Pizano, etc? Are the gangs moving the drugs to Maine black gangs? Are they Latino gangs? Are they white? Are they ethnic in any way?

      Does it matter? I think it is part of the story. I think you could erase one word. White. I haven’t looked at the population of Maine in 20 years or so. Are there only white people in Maine?

      Lepage is known for being a bumbling idiot in his speech. However, we are focusing on his misplaced words rather than on the real problem. The real problem is that there are drug runners feeding poison to the people of Maine. To me, their ethnicity is irrelevant. Their poison is not. I have no problem discussing their ethnicity if it is an identifier.

  12. nateX

    LePage tried to explain his comments that he meant to say “Maine women” instead of “white women” and it was just an honest slip of the hood, I mean tongue. Seriously though, his ‘explanation’ shows just how racist he is. Apparently, anybody who isn’t white doesn’t count in his eyes. How would you like to be a black/brown person in Maine living under a governor that doesn’t even acknowledge you exist? Yet another example of the GOP’s Othering of black/brown people and a sign of yet another person who doesn’t think Black Lives Matter.

    He also claims he wasn’t talking about black gangs when he came up with the names . “What’re they, black?” he said. “I don’t know if they’re White, Black, Asian, I don’t know,” Sure. He just randomly picked names that sound like they came out of a 70s Blacksploitation movie. He’s against anybody coming up an messing with the sacred white women of Maine. I mean according to him impregnating a young white girl is “a real sad thing because then we have another issue [aka a biracial child] we’ve got to deal with down the road”

    Notice he didn’t say anything about rape or sexual assault. LePage is against consensual sex if it’s interracial. (ie miscegenation). Gotta protect those white women. Hmmm. What organization has been promising to protect white women since 1865?

    >. How is this statement really different from what it would have been 50 years ago when those same names would have been Vito, Lucky, Pizano, etc?

    The difference is that we’ve supposedly had 50 years of progress since then. Or not.

    So here’s a challenge to the GOPers out there: Post a link to any GOP’er in Congress or presidential candidate condemning LePage.

    1. Three comments:

      You are taking some quantum leaps. Don’t broad brush all Republicans.
      Gangs are a problem. We might as well call them out.
      You seem to be wearing racial sensitivity on your sleeve. I try to treat everyone as I would would like to be treated. It serves no purpose to look for racism. Sometimes people aren’t racist. They lack exposure. There is a huge difference.

  13. Cargosquid

    Hey Nate,

    When you get around to the rampant racism in the black community, let us know. Racism is bad no matter who does it.

    1. Cargo brings up a valid point. Racism certainly isn’t restricted to whites against blacks.

  14. Cargosquid

    Since there has been a fight over what started the mortgage meltdown last time, let me present this.

    Record this date.
    The administration is rolling out sub-prime mortgages again for Fannie Mae.
    So, now we’re clear…this is the Democrats, and more specifically, Obama, starting up the fiasco again.

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010716-788747-government-wants-to-lend-more-to-high-risk-immigrants.htm?p=full
    Excerpt:
    The White House is rolling out a new low-income mortgage program that for the first time lets lenders qualify borrowers by counting income from nonborrowers living in the household. What could go wrong?

    The HomeReady program is offered through Fannie Mae, which is now controlled by Obama’s old Congressional Black Caucus pal Mel Watt. It replaces the bankrupted mortgage giant’s notorious old subprime program, MyCommunityMortgage.

    In case renaming the subprime product fails to fool anybody, the affordable-housing geniuses in the administration have re-termed “subprime,” a dirty word since the mortgage bust, “alternative.”

    So HomeReady isn’t a subprime mortgage program, you see, it’s an “alternative” mortgage program.

    But it might was well be called DefaultReady, because it is just as risky as the subprime junk Fannie was peddling on the eve of the crisis.

    1. I don’t know why home ownership is always the goal. Some people just don’t need to be tied to a house.

      Perhaps they should be concentrating on affordable housing rather than ownership.

      I saw some real shams in my neighborhood. None of it worked out well from what I can tell.

  15. nateX

    @Moon-howler
    I didn’t say all GOP’ers were racist, but they clearly are the party of choice for racists because of the party’s support for racially discriminatory policies. It’s say really. Long ago the GOP was good on civil rights. The Party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump and LePage.

    Gangs are a problem. But I didn’t say anything about LePage’s gang proposal. Only that he is clearly a racist promoting his gang proposal with the threat to the virtue of white women that is straight out of a KKK recruitment manual or Birth of a Nation. Something should be done to fight drug trafficiing, but I’m suspicious of any proposal that someone like LePage would propose. If you want to stop drug dealers, increase drug treatment efforts and create opportunities in neighborhoods destroyed by the drug trade. But I doubt that’s what LePage’s Protect the White Women Act of 2016 is about.

    I get that white people think most black/brown folk are overly sensitive about race. Just like a lot of men think women are overly sensitive on feminism. That’s because you don’t have to live with the consequences of racism every minute of every day of your life.

    Of course it is possible for a black/brown person to be racist. But there is a huge difference between racist blacks and racist whites. There are two types of racism. Personal racism and institutional racism. Personal racism is often based on ignorance, and quite frankly it doesn’t bother me much what some redneck in the middle of nowhere thinks of me UNTIL he and thousands of others elect candidates that support and perpetuate institutional racism.

    Institutional racism is pervasive in America. But most white people don’t see it. Here’s an example: The funding of schools by city or county instead of at a state level is racist. It was one of the major legacies of ‘white flight’ in the 1970s and leaves schools that are predominately black/brown grossly underfunded. What a shock, the kids that come out of these underfunded do poorly on (culturally biased) standardized tests. And when there’s no money for after school programs, the kids are more at risk of joining a gang. There are dozens if not hundreds of other examples of institutional racism. I get that most white people will disagree with me and say that’s not racist. Most black folk see it differently.

    Here’s another one: I brought up Tamir Race multiple times and nobody here said a word about it. The cops shot and killed a 12 year old kid playing in his own front yard. WTF? Take away the fact that Tamir was black and it would have been a huge scandal. But Tamir was black and in one of “those” neighborhoods so somehow that makes it acceptable. That’s why we say Black Lives Matter. The GOPers like to pretend like we are saying (Only) Black Lives Matter to Other us. But it really is Black Lives Matter (Too).

    So to answer Cargosquid’s question, I’ll get around to worrying about racism among black folks when we have one tenth of the power and influence that white people have. When racist blacks are able to really hurt the lives of white people on a regular basis, it’ll be a real problem to worry about. Odds of that happening in my lifetime are about zero. (Yes, I’m sure you’ll cherrypick one story from somewhere on the internet about one white person being discriminated against, but you miss the point. Every black/brown person can tell you a dozen or more personal stories of racism against them.)

    1. That is fair….I will never understand/face the racism felt from being black. No, I wont. That doesn’t mean that I am unaware, but it wont be on a first hand basis. You are right.

      I haven’t commented on many of the cop shootings. I wasn’t there. Some have been clearly wrong. Some not so clear.

      One of the things Cargo hasn’t said, so I will say…I wouldn’t want to be a cop in some of those neighborhoods with high crime rates. Perhaps when only the best and the brightest are hired to go risk their lives daily, things will improve.

      As for schools, Even within a jurisdiction, money follows money. I live in an older neighborhood. We don’t have the new shiny school. Those are out in Brentsville and Gainesville where the new, larger, more expensive houses are found. Same with mid-county. New schools are built where new homes are. I don’t know what you do about it. People hate bussing.

      Money is generated from higher taxes. Bigger and more expensive homes generate the tax base for the newer fancier schools that can afford to pay teachers more.

      I wouldn’t chalk it all up to institutional racism. Some of it is classism and that will never vanish.

      Also I will say that the Black Lives Matter group isn’t very popular with either party or with non party people, regardless of race. I think it is because originally its leadership did say ONLY. Had it been said as TOO, I think more people would support the movement. Originally, the group also bullied and upstaged the very candidates who would have given them support.

  16. nateX

    The fix for schools is to collect the money and then distribute it statewide. So the Brentsville school gets $x per kid and the school in Woodbridge gets the same $x per kid. Then schools in “bad” (nonwhite) neighborhoods have the money to fix broken schools and attract better teachers. There are other things that need to be done, but that’s a start. Buying a McMansion in the suburbs still keeps all those scary black/brown people away, but at least we have money for better schools. It tells you how bad it is when ‘separate but equal’ is a step up. (There are studies that say schools and neighborhoods are more segregated now than they were in 1964.)

    BLM grew out of the frustration of being constantly ignored. Every time a black person gets killed by a cop, there’s this rush to blame the dead person. Selling a loosie shouldn’t get you the death penalty. Sandra Bland “committ suicide” in jail over a ticket for improper lane change? Time after time these get ignored. The killer isn’t even charged with anything. Only when there is a mountain of evidence like with Walter Scott do we at least get a trial. That’s with a video that shows the cop planting the gun and lying about it. We’ll see if the murderer goes to jail or not.

    BLM is about getting people to accept that Black Lives Matter. Talking about it politely for years didn’t work, so we’ll get in people’s face about it. Sit-in’s and civil disobedience are part of what it takes to get people to pay attention to the problem. Occupy Wall Street did the same thing. But nobody complained about them half as much. Look past the tactics which you might not like and look at what BLM wants. Body cameras on all cops. Community based policing. Citizen review boards for all police shootings. End stop and frisk. (randomly frisking young black men with no evidence of a crime)

    The whole ONLY Black Lives Matter thing is pure right-wing spin. Here’s what President Obama had to say about it: “I think that the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matter was not because they were suggesting that no one else’s lives matter … rather what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that’s not happening in other communities.” He went on to say “that is a legitimate issue that we’ve got to address”

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

    And he’s 100% right about that!

    1. I resent like hell paying high property taxes in Prince William County and having some of my money sent to other places in the state. This isn’t a black/white issue. Its an economic issue. There are plenty of places over in southwestern Virginia that I seriously don’t think race comes into play.

      I heard what I heard out of the BLM folks. I also saw them crawl all over Bernie Sanders for saying all lives matter. I don’t need to rely on Republican translation.

      Most of my friends are moderate to liberal. Trust me when I say that BLM did not do themselves any favors. I have far more conservative friends on this blog than I do in real life or on social media.

      I can honestly say that I don’t know anyone who is taking up their cause and that also includes my
      black friends. I don’t mind addressing issues of race but getting me to see another point of view will not be done by bullying.

      Sorry. Calling it as I see it. I believe that BLM is an ill-fated movement that really has done a great deal of harm to ordinary black/white relations.

      Nate, how old are you? Perhaps this is a generational thing.

      Do you not think that there are specific issues in Latino communities? How about ethnic communities that aren’t black or Hispanic? I hear otherwise.

      I seriously believe that schools are such, especially after NCLB, that any student who is willing to work can get ahead and make something of him or her self. It isn’t up to anyone else but that individual. I have seen it time and time again. I have also seen the opposite. I have seen kids given opportunity after opportunity, certainly opportunities their parents were never given. I have seen those kids come to school with shitty attitudes, misbehave, not do their work, and be part of the problem. Again–no specific race. I have seen it out of all races.

      I am assuming you are young. BLM overlooks something very powerful–the voting booth. Frankly, they have squandered some very good relationships because of bullying tactics. I have yet to hear anyone who claims to be a spokesperson for the organization say that all lives matter. If I have overlooked it, please leave me the link.

      I have probably said some things that you don’t want to hear. Just being honest. For the record, I am not young.

  17. Censored bybvbl

    I absolutely agree with NateX’s last paragraph. How Black Lives Matter got spun into Only Black Lives Matter can be described as nothing other than a political ploy to rouse the right-wing rabble.

  18. Pat.Herve

    Well, Speaker Ryan has proved it – all bad news, Obama’s fault – any good news, not influenced by Obama’s actions. Yup, assign all blame and give no credit.

    1. I hate that so much. It’s a joke over at my house. Anything happens, someone says, Obama’s fault. During Bill Clinton’s presidency, I never thought I would ever see another American president so vilified. I am afraid I was wrong. This one is worse.

  19. Pat.Herve

    @Moon-howler
    Wait until Trump is in – he will be the Golden Child.

    1. Agreed. Or wait until all the sHeeple find out that Trump really can’t produce what he has big-mouthed about.
      [note correction]

  20. Wolve

    I thought everything was Bush’s fault?

  21. Wolve

    Heck, at Princeton the students are blaming Woodrow Wilson.

  22. Pat.Herve

    Cargosquid :
    Since there has been a fight over what started the mortgage meltdown last time, let me present this.
    Record this date.
    The administration is rolling out sub-prime mortgages again for Fannie Mae.
    So, now we’re clear…this is the Democrats, and more specifically, Obama, starting up the fiasco again.
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010716-788747-government-wants-to-lend-more-to-high-risk-immigrants.htm?p=full
    Excerpt:
    The White House is rolling out a new low-income mortgage program that for the first time lets lenders qualify borrowers by counting income from nonborrowers living in the household. What could go wrong?
    The HomeReady program is offered through Fannie Mae, which is now controlled by Obama’s old Congressional Black Caucus pal Mel Watt. It replaces the bankrupted mortgage giant’s notorious old subprime program, MyCommunityMortgage.
    In case renaming the subprime product fails to fool anybody, the affordable-housing geniuses in the administration have re-termed “subprime,” a dirty word since the mortgage bust, “alternative.”
    So HomeReady isn’t a subprime mortgage program, you see, it’s an “alternative” mortgage program.
    But it might was well be called DefaultReady, because it is just as risky as the subprime junk Fannie was peddling on the eve of the crisis.

    cargo – I suggest you watch the movie – The Big Short, based on the book. It does a pretty good job of trying to explain how wall street created its own schemes and then we imploded.

  23. Wolve

    @Pat.Herve

    Don’t forget Andrew Cuomo and Janet Reno putting a strong arm on the lending institutions, ostensibly with the approval of President Bill.

    1. I guess it begins…lets re-tear down Bill Clinton. I guess Hillary has you worried, eh?

  24. Wolve

    Reuters 13 January 2016: A federal investigator reportedly told a US court today that Omar Faraj Saeed al-Hardan, a Palestinian born in Iraq who entered the US as a refugee, is an ISIS sympathizer who planned to set off bombs at two Houston, Texas, malls.

    Good that the FBI caught him. Not good that there may well be others out there as refugees flow in through an insufficient screening process. Kaboom — like the recent bombing in Istanbul which killed 9 or 10 foreign tourists near the Hagia Sofia.

  25. Wolve

    Moon-howler :
    I guess it begins…lets re-tear down Bill Clinton. I guess Hillary has you worried, eh?
    </blockquote

    That's not a tear-down. That is fact. Between Cuomo and Reno, they actually threatened legal action against those banks and lending institutions which did not want to offer mortgages almost certain to wind up in foreclosure. It started the whole sub-prime thing. The adoration of Slick Willy is throwing you off your game, blogmistress.

    The only thing which would make me worry with regard to Hillary is concern for the nation if the American people are foolish enough to put her into the Oval Office. God help us.

    1. Let’s not confuse fact with opinion. Bill Clinton hasn’t been in office in 16 years. So why is someone suing him? How convenient to leave Bush out of the entire sub-prime thing. Those 8 years didn’t count? No one could do anything about whatever was happening?

      I don’t think so.

      Please stop insulting those of us who support whoever you don’t. To say that I am foolish is just simply insulting, based on your opinion. You may disagree without being demeaning to me. She certainly has qualifications the others don’t have, especially the front runners.

  26. Wolve

    Wooof! Looks like the guy who killed the foreign tourists in Istanbul was an ISIS guy posing as a Syrian refugee. The Turks had him registered as a refugee, fingerprints and all. Bombing toll may be 12 or 13 dead now. So much for the tourist trade in Turkey.

  27. Pat.Herve

    @Wolve
    or Dick Fuld, John Thain, Jamie Dimon, Angelo Mozilo or Ken Lewis.

    http://www.mahanyertl.com/2015/whistleblowers-share-170m-bank-america-settlement/

  28. Pat.Herve

    Today, 1/14/2016 –
    Jamie Dimon – “it is as good as it’s ever been.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-q4-earnings-call-2016-1

  29. Wolve

    @Moon-howler

    As I recall, GWB’s people went up to the Hill several times asking the Dems, especially Rep. Barney Frank, to work with them on their strong fears of an approaching major problem involving Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae but were turned down flat. Frank at el kept saying that there was no problem.

    The whole damned thing started under Clinton with the federal strong arming of banks and lending institutions into granting mortgage loans certain to fail. After that, the banks sought a way to get out from under the burden of bad assets. Take the bad tale from there to Wall Street and beyond. 16 years ago or not, Clinton was the seed from which it all grew. You cannot erase history, especially when the distaff side of the Clinton team is running for the Oval Office and Bill is out there on the campaign hustings for her — as I told you was going to happen.

    I will say it again. In my opinion, Hillary Clinton is and has been corrupt and incompetent and plays loosely with the truth. Her record as SecState had virtually nothing to recommend it and much to criticize. She is currently under FBI investigation for national security violations which even a GS-5 would have recognized as illegal. She is also reportedly under FBI investigation for corruptive connections between the Clinton Foundation and State while she was in charge of the latter. It would be a disservice to the nation to put her in the Oval Office. That’s my story, and I am sticking with it. And I don’t hate her. I just don’t want her hired. And I suggest that the Clinton “teflon” will be stripped away this time around.

    1. I can’t believe you just side-stepped 8 years regarding the financial situation in this country. Ahem….Reality check.

      We get it, you don’t like the Clintons or Obama. You probably also disliked Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Harry Truman and FDR.

      Bush’s best deed regarding the housing crisis/financial meltdown was getting Hank Paulson on board. Paulson probably saved the country.

  30. Wolve

    Moon-howler :
    I can’t believe you just side-stepped 8 years regarding the financial situation in this country. Ahem….Reality check.
    We get it, you don’t like the Clintons or Obama. You probably also disliked Jimmy Carter, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Harry Truman and FDR.
    Bush’s best deed regarding the housing crisis/financial meltdown was getting Hank Paulson on board. Paulson probably saved the country.

    Sorry, no more Clinton teflon. Didn’t you see Bill run away recently from those two MSM TV female reporters who tried to ask him questions about sexism and his own sordid past? Old Bubba looked like a fox running from the hounds. No statute of limitations in politics.

    1. I would hope he wouldn’t answer those types of questions. I don’t know why people keep calling it sexism. That isn’t what sexism is. He was an unfaithful husband. That isn’t sexism.

      If he is campaigning for Hillary, why on earth should any of that “sordid past” be appropriate or have anything to do with her ability to be president. It sounds to me like you and others want to victimize the victim. Let’s not forget, Hillary WAS a victim in all of this. She behaved like most wives who have a straying spouse.

      Don’t forget, Bill isn’t running for office. Hillary is. She didn’t cheat on herself.

  31. Pat.Herve

    @Wolve
    Yes, Fannie and Freddie were part of the problem as they had abdicated their vetting responsibility of mortgages to private enterprise. The big banks even went further and outsourced everything. Some smart people realized what was going on, but all along, Wall Street, investment banks and big banks kept the circle going. But you can keep claiming that 8 years of a R President with 6 years of a R Congress – that they still had no time to fix any of what Clinton had done 10 years before. The Mighty power of Clinton cannot be undone – who thinks that?

    Talk about a redistribution of wealth – from the people suckered into buying a house they could not afford into the coffers of the cronies of the biggest banks.

    Too bad we cannot trust the banks to create a reliable method of calculating the rate on a mortgage – look at the LIBOR manipulation. Now the big banks are onto currency manipulation. All the while, none of them go to prison.

    1. Yea, reality check here. I refuse to believe Clinton is omnipotent also.

      The Bush years have to own a good part of the financial melt down.

  32. Wolve

    I agree that there were culprits aplenty to go around in the subprime caper, including the Bush administration, and that someone, somehow should have caught it and stopped it earlier. But, when assigning guilt, you cannot excuse those like Clinton and Cuomo/Reno who planted the critical seeds or those in legislative power positions like Barney Frank who refused for whatever reasons to respond to warnings that the thing was going to blow. In my opinion. there has been far too much political covering up of Clinton mistakes in 1993-2001, and it is time the teflon was scrapped, especially with his better half on the hunt for power. I say he is fair game, especially when he hits the hustings now.

    Given the length of time that Bill ignored his marital vows and got away with it in his climb to power, I disagree that Hillary was a victim. Maybe the first time or so, but not after all the years since. She became an enabler, and I say it was because of her own thirst for political power.

    1. So we are blaming the victim? How can you say she enabled him? I think you are living in an insulated fantasy world. Have you ever talked to women whose husbands have cheated on them? I mean a real conversation about that? Most of them don’t know or they are in denial.

  33. Wolve

    Moon-howler :
    So we are blaming the victim? How can you say she enabled him? I think you are living in an insulated fantasy world. Have you ever talked to women whose husbands have cheated on them? I mean a real conversation about that? Most of them don’t know or they are in denial.

    Sorry, blogmistress; but I think you are the one living in an insulated fantasy world about Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    1. I am dumbfounded that you are blaming a wife for her husband’s infidelities. Why do you think she aided and abetted him?

  34. Wolve

    @Moon-howler

    No, no, no, no, no. I am not blaming her for his sexual escapades. Those are all his, and they reportedly go way back before she was in the picture, even a couple of accusations at Oxford.

    What I am suggesting is that she knew about them, particularly the long list of post-marital accusations, and elected to cover them up. For what reason? Their political futures. What else? Unless you think that Hillary was either ignorant or in denial. Even I wouldn’t accuse her of that. She should have thrown his ass out long before. But instead the country wound up with the embarrassment of the Lewinsky scandal right in the Oval Office and a POTUS who lied to all of us and the rest of the world on national TV, not to mention perjury later in a court room. But, if Bill and Hillary are your cup of tea, have at it. Don’t let me get in your way.

    1. From everything I know about it, of course she didn’t know about it. Most wives don’t. Could it be because they don’t want to know? I think that is part of it. From people I know who know them…it was a real rough go of it.

      I don’t necessarily think every wronged spouse should seek divorce as a solution. She chose not to divorce. They also had a daughter to think about. That’s just not a decision you can make for other people.

      A for a POTUS who lied…I don’t think he should have been asked in the first place. Of course he lied. Most spouses lie about it. Its part of the nature of the problem. I am sure you don’t think he is the only powerful man with a zipper problem?

  35. Wolve

    BTW, what was the name of that female FLOTUS staffer who was reportedly tasked by Hillary to keep the “bimbos” away from Bill during the White House years? I would take that as an indicator that Hillary knew quite a lot about Bill’s extra-marital rap sheet.

    1. I don’t know. I have never heard of such a person. It sounds like a good plan though. Perhaps all first ladies have such a staffer.

  36. Cargosquid

    @Pat.Herve
    I understand.
    The movie, however, didn’t bother to go into the government’s malfeasance. The banks followed the lead of the regulators and the Congress.

    1. You are so dissatisfied with the country. I would get up each and every day totally depressed if I felt like you did.

  37. Cargosquid

    @Moon-howler
    “She certainly has qualifications the others don’t have, especially the front runners.”

    Name one.

    1. She has been a US Senator, a first lady, and the Secretary of State. None of the candidates have that much experience at as many different levels of government.

  38. Wolve

    NBCWashington, 16 January. Two guys from Woodbridge arrested by the FBI on terrorism charges. Joseph Hassan Farrokh of Woodbridge, US citizen formerly from Pennsylvania, nabbed at Richmond airport. Per FBI informants, he was headed to Chicago and then to Jordan in an effort to cross into Syria and Join ISIS. Mahmoud Amin Mohammed Elhassan, also from Woodbridge and a permanent legal resident from Sudan, was arrested after driving Farrokh to the airport.

    Close to home, folks.

  39. nateX

    Some food for thought today. Some of you will call me a racist for posting it (even though it is by a white person.) But the author gets it. It is that he doesn’t get it.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/01/17/race-us-slavery-oppression-discrimination-mlk-day-racial-relations-column/78315390/

  40. Kelly_3406

    Glenn Frey of the Eagles died today. Very sad!

    http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/18/glenn-frey-the-eagles-dead/

    1. I am in mourning. Eagles were MY group.

    2. Kelly, I had 2 computer crashes. Email me when you have a chance so I can update my address book. Garcias.

      David Bowie and Glenn Frey all in the same week. I had forgotten that Frey and Henley play in Linda Ronstadt’s back up band.

  41. Wolve

    Hmmm….interesting. The Daily Caller reports that they have access to emails obtained by FOIA which show that, in August 2011, Stephen Mull, Executive Secretary of the State Department, offered to Secretary Clinton a State Department Blackberry with state.gov email, ostensibly because her private server had crashed a number of times. The offer was turned down by the Secretary’s chief aides, among them Huma Abedin, who indicated that the Mull offer was without merit.

    So, the top levels of the State managerial hierarchy knew that the Secretary was using a private home server and that a further 2011 offer of a government secure system had been turned down by her aides. This gets deeper and deeper.

  42. Cargosquid

    Moon-howler :
    She has been a US Senator, a first lady, and the Secretary of State. None of the candidates have that much experience at as many different levels of government.

    Being a First Lady is not a qualification, except to be a wife of the President. And with her record in that office of going after the women complaining of being assaulted by Monica’s boyfriend, its not a good record.

    Being a Senator is not a qualification that the others don’t have. Cruz is a Senator. Graham is a Senator. Sanders was a Senator.

    Being Secretary of State, in this case is not a qualification, but evidence of malfeasance.

  43. Cargosquid

    nateX :
    Some food for thought today. Some of you will call me a racist for posting it (even though it is by a white person.) But the author gets it. It is that he doesn’t get it.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/01/17/race-us-slavery-oppression-discrimination-mlk-day-racial-relations-column/78315390/

    You see..your chip on your shoulder is what is wrong.
    You assumed that we would automatically call you a racist for posting the link.
    That preacher had a good point.
    The problem is that he assumes that we don’t listen. We do listen.

    And what we’ve heard is a cacophony of voices all demanding separate things. People like myself are called racists because I attempt to ignore race, color, ethnicity, etc and treat everyone equally and hold them to the exact same standards that I hold for myself and everyone else.

    We see people of all races calling for equality and following MLK’s desire for people to be judged and treated on the content of character being vilified for not excusing bad behavior, or granting privilege based on race, or any number of other things that are done because of the race of a person.

    And this happens across the board. I see minorities being victimized by other minorities…and then …very little happens. I see the wealthy of all races being allowed a pass. I see the politically connected get a pass. I see people of all races being victimized by those in power…and I want to reduce that power. Then I’m called heartless and racist for wanting to lessen the power of government.

    The prejudice of low expectations is rampant throughout the American society. It needs to stop. People are either equal in the the eyes of the law or they are not. Favoritism is just as bad for society as is abuse.

    1. Cargo, my friend, I think it might be HOW you say it that leaves people with that impression. You have also been heavy handed with the name calling lately. (like I should talk…I have called people terrorists and told our BOCS chair not to be an ass…..)

  44. Cargosquid

    @Wolve
    Every single one of them need to be brought up on espionage charges.

    If I would have been courtmartialed for leaving a microfiche unsecured, during the 80’s….. they need to be charged and tried.

    All of them.

  45. Cargosquid

    @Moon-howler
    How I say it is quite clear. I’m not PC.
    And if someone insults me…..I’m tired of excusing them.

  46. Bwaaaahahahahahahahaha!!

    NYTimes:

    Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice-presidential nominee who became a Tea Party sensation and a favorite of grass-roots conservatives, will endorse Donald J. Trump in Iowa on Tuesday, officials with his campaign confirmed. The endorsement provides Mr. Trump with a potentially significant boost just 13 days before the state’s caucuses.

  47. @Cargosquid

    Then you get what you give.

    You are a southerner. You know better. The delivery system is very important to maintain civility.

  48. Wolve

    Cargosquid :
    @Wolve
    Every single one of them need to be brought up on espionage charges.
    If I would have been courtmartialed for leaving a microfiche unsecured, during the 80’s….. they need to be charged and tried.
    All of them.

    Getting much, much deeper, Cargo. A letter to Congress by the IG of the intelligence community says that Hillary’s unsecured emails included “Top Secret/Special Access material.” The actual direction of the flow of this material was not reported, but it indicates to me that someone was extracting very sensitive intelligence material from superclassified documents and forwarding it to the SecState via unsecured emails. That could mean signals intelligence or intelligence reports/data with very limited access and “need to know.” Some people out there do not realize that there are special clearances above Top Secret. Having TS alone does not get you access to those materials.

    This says ultra-serious breach of intelligence communications security. And Hillary’s personal aides/staff turned down the 2011 renewed offer of a secure State Blackberry?!! Whoooo boy!!

  49. Wolve

    TS/Special Access violations are what nailed General Petraeus after he allowed his “mistress” to read such material. And it appears that the administration is not done yet with that case. It was recently reported that the SecDef is considering the possibility of reducing Petraeus in rank from Major General (4 star) to Lieutenant General (3 star), entailing a return of large sums of retirement pay at the 4-star level and more personal embarrassment for the General.

  50. Wolve

    Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona…….

Comments are closed.