Are white college educated voters all that important? I didn’t realize their significance was that great.
Then there are the hispanic voters. Trump has definitely alienated most of them. This will be an interesting 4 months.
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The disparity is because the vast majority of college-educated people is so disconnected from the military and national security issues that it does not realize what a huge national security threat she is. Most of us who are highly educated and connected to national security reject her.
And Trump doesn’t scare you? You must have nerves of steel.
@kelly_3406
That’s certainly an interesting view of it. Another explanation that I think more people believe is that better educated people can see through Trump’s bluster and bravado and see that he would be dangerous to have as president.
Isn’t that the line typically reserved for the GOP? Typically they indicate that poorly educated voters pick Democrats up and down the ballot, without thinking. Is this a Trump strategy to take some voters away from Clinton?
Don’t answer pollsters who ask who you are voting for. That data in the hands of a President Trump will be used to punish those who didn’t vote for him via the long arm of the law.
I don’t believe any polls. Too many people have cell phones only and the pollsters often don’t have their numbers. I am VERY careful who gets my cell phone and I don’t answer my land line if I think it is political solicitation or polling.
Good point, Ed. I just don’t trust that dude. I cannot stand to hear him talk.
@MoonHowler
Trust…it really comes down to that, doesn’t it? Trump isn’t trusted by some, because of what he’s said. Hillary isn’t trusted by many, because of what she’s done…and than said about what she’s done, only to find that she’s lied.
If we were indeed still a “nation of laws” Hillary would be busy preparing for her defense at trial, rather than her nomination at the DNC convention.
Now, Hillary isn’t the first to get caught doing questionable things, and lied about it, and then lied about the lies, nor is this a problem solely of the Democrat party.
Trump and Sanders are a result of years of disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, and down-right criminal actions by the “ruling elite” in this country. Shame on us, the voters for letting it get to this point.
For me, the only answer is term limits, and holding our elected officials to the same legal and a greater moral standard than we hold ourselves. Maybe it’s the Marine in me, but I could never respect a leader who didn’t try to be better than those he or she is entrusted to lead.
Next week would be a great time for a national ad on all the networks to remind all those “smart” college graduates that the foreign policy of Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton contributed to the rise of ISIS.
The ad could begin with Obama calling ISIS a JV team. Then it could show the territory occupied by ISIS with Hillary in the background defending the withdrawal from Iraq, praising the war in Libya as a great success, then advocating for weapons to Syrian Rebels that turned out to be ISIS. The finale should be Hillary’s famous quote; “what difference does it make now” with various scenes of terrorist carnage in the background.
Maybe that would educate some of those college graduates on the risk of a Hillary presidency.
@Kelly_3406
Kelly,
Consider the term being used here: “Poorly Educated”. How elitist is that? “Look, all of the poorly educated support Trump. Smart people don’t support Trump”.
Let’s peel that onion a bit. If someone lacking a college education is “poorly educated”, does this speak to the condition of public education, as I would assume that is where most of these “poorly educated” received what “little” education they do have? Also, consider the state of higher education these days: So many useless degrees in “communications” or “Transgender Tibetan Studies”…with holders of these degrees waiting tables, tending bar, or working in some retail store, trying to keep their $80K government-backed student loans from defaulting. Think the “poorly educated” waiters, bar-tenders, or store clerks who are making the same money as the “highly educated” consider themselves less-intelligent?
I find this whole election-cycle quite entertaining, for one reason: All conventional wisdom is collapsing, right along with the media narrative. I suspect that there’s going to be some shocked people come November, when the “Status Quo” candidate in a change election comes up short….because of all those “poorly educated” voters decided she wasn’t who they want.
paragraph #2 has me thinking…I am not sure what you are saying. I have a bartender kid who works 3 nights a week and is Mr. Mom during the rest of the time for his pre-school daughter. He isn’t “highly educated.” He makes enough money for the mortgage, food, utilities and a hefty car payment working 3 days a week. I don’t think he considers himself less intelligent.
I am stymied by this entire election. I don’t distrust Hillary. Nor do I expect any president to be perfect. I do distrust Trump. He has never held office, he shoots off his mouth and says horrible things. That’s enough for me.
@MoonHowler
Moon,
Please don’t take my comments the wrong way, in that I look down on the 30-somethings with degrees, doing jobs that don’t require one. Quite the contrary. I feel bad for the Millennials who were sold a bill-of-goods. Got to college. Take on a HUGE debt. Get a degree…any degree. Doesn’t matter, as long as you have one. You’ll make 5 times more in your lifetime, than if you didn’t have one. Don’t even think about learning a specialized trade….that’s sooooo blue-collar.
Guess what…those high-paying jobs aren’t there for someone with a Communications Degree. I know a 24 year-old who got a degree in “Video Production” and it “only” cost him $70K. Never mind this thing called “YouTube” had been invented, and anyone with a go-pro, a laptop and some software can produce professional videos… Guess where he’s working? Waiting tables at an Indian restaurant, living with his parents…and he will take about 25 years to pay off that degree.
I also know a 26 year-old who studied Automotive Technology at OHS, and graduated with a HS diploma and his ASC certifications. Went to work for a repair shop specializing in imports. He makes $150K a year, has no debt, just paid cash for a condo. Think about that. Sadly, MCPS has decided to cease the Automotive Tech program. Better to have kids go an get communications degrees, or have to pay for some trade-school.
What I am saying is I object the the whole notion of “poorly educated voters prefer Trump” canard. It is meant to imply that “stupid people” prefer Trump to Hillary…well, because their “stupid”, or “ignorant”, or, “don’t know any better”. If they were “better educated”, they’d naturally prefer Hillary, of course. Only an idiot would choose Trump over Hillary.
This is pure, unadulterated BS. Trump wasn’t my 1st, 2nd, or even 5th choice, but that doesn’t matter. I wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton even with a gun pointed at my head. She’s a liar and a crook. To me, she’s just John Gotti in a Teflon pant-suit. Trump says stupid things with an alarming regularity, but to date he hasn’t endangered the security of the nation. Worst of all, She promises “more of the same” or “status quo”. Lot’s of Bernieites won’t vote for her…are they “poorly educated” too?
I wouldn’t vote for Trump with a gun pointed at my head. I am good with Hillary and I don’t think she is a crook. We will never agree on that. However, I do agree with you on your first 2 paragraphs. In defense of “communications” as a major. I believe it depends on what kind of communications studied. It can be a very useful degree in business. I wouldn’t pay $70k for one.
I just don’t think everyone needs a degree. I think also that our schools are woefully inadequate at providing vocational education which should include welding, electronics, computer science, auto body etc. These areas of study should be easy to get in a high school.
Some idiot somewhere…probably a politician, said everyone had to go to college. No they don’t.
@Steve Thomas
You make some good points, Steve, and I share your skepticism about how these categories are staked out and what it all means in the context of the general election. However, re your last paragraph, when you say Trump “hasn’t endangered the security of the nation,” I think the primary reason for this is that he hasn’t been in a position to do so, having never held public office. Certainly much of what he says, if implemented even partially, would do serious violence to the security of the Nation.
So we have a choice, at least if we confine ourselves to the two major parties, of a candidate who has demonstrated cavalier disregard for document security protocols, a disregard that reasonably supports a conclusion that she has no loyalty to the welfare of the country if it interferes with here personal preferences and convenience, and a man who promises in many ways to implement measures that would directly threaten national military and economic security. What’s a reasonable, patriotic voter to do?
@Scout
The thing that concerned me most about Trump and national security was the implication that the US might pull out of NATO. I have studied his comments in more detail and most of his concern now seems to be on the disproportionate amount that the US pays for NATO.
He also says that NATO, as currently organized, is obsolete. Anyone who has participated in a NATO exercise or operation knows he is correct. We are no longer concerned about a Red Army pouring across the Fulda Gap.
NATO needs a capability to deploy rapidly to respond to unexpected events, which it definitely is not set up to do at present.
As I recall, you like Pence? That must soften the blow somewhat.
@MoonHowler
I do like Pence. Wished he’d have thrown his hat in the ring this cycle.
I don’t like him because of policy, not because I think he is unqualified. He is far too conservative for me. I also think he is a decent human being, just one with whom I disagree.
@MoonHowler
I like Pence too.
@Steve Thomas
Well put, Steve. I agree with you.
Trump with such thin skin and a pattern of vindictiveness is a danger to the country if he has his smallish hands on the nuclear football. Thin skinned people are so easy to manipulate into destructive behavior and that is exactly what frenemies would do to him. We can’t allow that personality flaw to endanger the entire country.
I don’t disagree, Ed.
Trump polls very well with dumb people.